Captain Ericks

Wait! no!

There was a Voyager episode where three temporal events in the timeline effected each other and were caused by each other in a continuous pattern. It was the Episode were we first meet captain Braxtan and they're transported back to 20th century Earth. I don't remember the exact sequence of events but I think it was something like this.

A. An explosion in the 29th century, at which a piece of Voyager's hull is found.

B.Cpt. Braxtain tries unsuccesfully to push Voyager out of the timeline (I'm pretty sure that's not how it went, but humor me), and Braxtain's ship os sent in to a vortex of some sort, which Voyager is brought into aswell (ditto)

C. The Braxtain's ship crashes on Earth, and is found by a computer expert who uses it to upgrade Earth communication system (Internet, cell phone, etc.), and when he attempts to go to the future and brings back more technology, however a problem ensues and the Timeship going to the 29th century causes an explosion and starts in all over again.

I'll have to check this somewhere, but I'm pretty sure that this should be true.

Yeah, I'm with ya' up to the 'two of you' part. The rest I suppose would have to be explained in Star Trek techno-jargon, which wouldn't help me in the long run too much.

Oh well.

Picard just because I never really connected with Janeway and Sisko that well.

Miles O'Brien is one of my favorite Trek characters.Anytime they can work him into a story is great,IMO.I would've enjoyed watching him take Barclay's place.

No real comment on your post,TB.Just wanted to say,great avatar.She's really,ah,bouncy... :o

 

I concur. Very nice. :o

I didn't like Yoda fighting that well. I don't know, it just left a bad feeling like Lucas thought of it while he was trying to be funny and then tried to make it serious, forgeting that seeing a two-foot tall Yoda against a 6'4 man just looks so dare I say, stupid.

But I still love Star Wars.

The Enterprise D in All Good Things is a Galaxy class Dreadnaught upgraded vessel. I guess like the others said, it was one possibility of a future.

I figured that it had to be something re-fitted, like the original Enterprise in TMP.

Generations didn't have very much shooting.It was mostly about the Nexus,and Picard making the choice to give up his own paradise in order to take care of his sworn responsibilities.Hard choice.Wow.Kirk did the same thing.

I kind of like the shooting,though.

Yeah there isn't to much actual fighting, but alot of $hit gets blown up (Bird of Prey, Enterprise, a planet,an observation station).

and yeah the shooting is kind of cool.

Simple, you were no longer a component of the future when the future changed.  By being in the past, you were protected by changes to the future.  While you didn't exist, you still do in the past as a time traveler.  It would be like crossing to a reallity where you never existed, only you're in the same reallity, except time is alterred.

 

You still with me?

HELL NO!!!

There Was Plenty Of Shooting In Insurrection Dude 

Insurrection was the closest to something like the Voyage Home. It did have a good amount of action, but I wouldn't call it all out action.

To answer your question, yes TNG movies could have used something like that, where it's simply the expansion of humanity and what truely makes us human. All of the movies have that, but it's clouded by all of the smoke from the explosions.

To answer your question, it'd be more like Timeline A "morphing" into Timeline B for lack of a better word.  Those in the past making the changes to the timeline are uneffected as they aren't in the "changing future".

 

So, you could go back and keep your parents from ever meeting, then return to the present only to discover that no one knows who you are, and from the world's perspective, you never existed.  How to fix this?  Simple, go back in time and stop yourself from preventing your parents from meeting.  Then we have a problem.  There's two of you!

But if that prevented you from being born, then wouldn't you have ceased to exist the second your parents relationship was prevented? But then if you were the one to prevent your parents form meeting and you didn't exist, then wouldn't you have been born anyway? I was thinking about that; that it's impossible to go back in time and kill your younger self. I don't know if that's true, but it actually make's sense.

I can't choose between the two universes.I love them both.

Ain't It Great?

Oh why can't more people be like us. Why can't we all just have The Best of Both Worlds?

Is anyone else here registered on the Galactic Senate website?

Oh yeah! Lt. Commander!

I always thought that the transwarp hub was just too perfect. Being cynical, I can't help but wonder why the hell the borg didn't use a transwarp apiture to attack Earth before.

But that said, I don't think the Borg are done for. They're in some deep $hit right now. That's for certain, the will adapt. I would doubt that we've seen the last of them.

I don't think there's a shot of it. I know that many Remans are killed, but I'm not certain that there are any shots with blood. I just can't see the Remans evolving from Vulcans.

I always liked Tom and Kes. That was just such a nice thing to think about. Harry and Seven had some potential too.

I think Jadzia and I could get along quite well.

What confused you about it?

Janeway-"Go to Hell. Coward."

(I must paraphrase)

Janeway and Tuvok to someone who was treying to scam people by impersonating the Voyager crew.

Janeway-"Tell our guest about the prison colonies on Terelous 5."

Tuvok-"Captain?"

Janeway-"Well..."

Tuvok-"The colony is bearly hospitipal for human life. Inmates often die from advanced...sirises."

The way I see it, Timeline A leads to Timeline B.  How does Timeline B lead to Timeline A?

If there is a paradox, and the borg were meant to go into the past, then the Borg wouldn't come to the Alpha quadrant in the first place. However because they recieved the subspace transmission, the collective decided that humanity would be the first target in the alpha quadrent.

I think that's right.

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In regards to your post Commander Ericks:

 

Also, I think your also right in that Sisko said that was the first Enterprise, but you must remember that the writers who wrote that never could have known that "Enterprise" would be the fifth series.

I reallize that. But it just bothered me. It was more with why the fifth series was called Enterprise. It doesn't bother that much, and this just scritches the bothersome itch I have had.

I'll have to watch it again. I wasn't watching that closely.

As for the basic idea of this thread. Keep in mind that star fleet can't keep pumping ships out. Archer's Enterprise might be kept in use for a longer time then ship in the 24th century, because Star Fleet just couldn't afford to build a whole generation of ships. I don't see any major calamity happening to Enterprise.

I always had a question about the Enterprise. In the DS9 episode where the Defiant goes back in time to the era of the TOS, Sisko specifically said that the saw the first Enterprise. But if the timeline was changed, then his statement would be explained.

And Archer said that it would take some 200 years for the beacon to reach the Delta quadrent, delaying the attack until the 24th century.

But it is I think a pre-destination paradox. The Borg went back in time, essentially to make up for a failed invasion. The Borg then tried to send a tranmission to the borg living in that century, which failed. Their second attempt to contact the collective was succesful, but was delayed by two hundred years, which eventually caused the original invasion on Earth. Oiy Ve!

Wesley was in Nemisis?

One explanation for the simialr features could just be Romulus in self. Say the Remans did live on Romulus before the Vulcans (who we know as Romulans) came. The would have developed feature disitnct to that planet and it's climate. When the Remans were forced off of Romulus the Romulans also might have began to develop those features. The features from Romulus still would have remained visible with the Remans even in the Dilithium mines.