prometheus

I feel the same way. I got the first season remastered discs. Now I have to decide whether to wait for the Blu Ray version of the 2nd season or just buy the regular version when it comes out.......

Does this mean you have a HD DVD player and a BLU-RAY player? I might just buy a HD DVD player if they are reduced to like 50 quid or something - I reckon that they are gonna start going really cheap now that there will be no more of them etc.

I am sick to the teeth of shelling out good money after bad to get the "next best thing" when it comes to Star Trek videos/dvds.

First there were the VHS format videos; then the dvds; then HD DVDs. Now Star Trek Remastered Season 2 is only coming out in dvd format. I have the first season which is dvd on one side and HD dvd on the other, and was an expensive treat in the adult world where new tiles for the bathroom or a service for the car come first. But I (thankfully!!!) did not buy a hd dvd player. I waited to see which format HD DVD or BLU-RAY would come out on top and I was wise, for it was BLU-RAY. So I obviously bought a BLU-RAY player which won't play my tos remastered hd dvds! I am stuck with a set which I cannot watch in HD. Now Season 2 is in dvd format only but Paramount HAVE committed to bringing out all of the series eventually on BLU-RAY which is obviously the ultimate format which is what everybody wants. The best. So all I can do is not buy the dvd versions, await the BLU-RAY versions and see if I can sell my dvd/ HD DVD verions at some stage for a loss, sigh...

I think that sometimes it is deliberate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

It is not fair...

I think that initially they wanted to create this strong female persona that was on a par with "any man". Shouler pads, short hair, big boots, polo neck. Yes - butch indeed.

However, then they probably thought, hey this Nana Visitor dame is a foxy piece of kit, we need to get a bit of Seven of Nine a la Troi action moving here to brighten this bicycle wheel up.

So - one brown cat suit with a plunging neck line, stilettoes, long hair, lippy and few love interests later and bam, the girl is bad as ...

so to speak.

I suppose, within a limited gene pool of a crew of only around 100, you are going to get some matches which you wouldn't normally get within the vast expanse of the Federation.

Maybe that is a good thing - it lowers the expectations a little and focuses the mind - sometimes the more choice you have and the more there is around you, the harder it is to find what you really want. Take supermarkets - you often pass over some nice food sometimes because you think that you will find something even nicer in the next isle; and the amount of produce fases you. Then, in a small store where you're choice is limited you sometimes end up with exactly what you need and can find and you really appreciate it, becasue it was the only choice and youweren't fogged bu other choices etc.

Another example is cable tv. With 100s of channels, sometimes I can find nothing to watch - but when I was abroad last year, there were only 4 channels and I watched some awful programmes but appreciated them becasue they were the best at hand and I was happy.

Does this make sense to anyone or am I talking rubbish? I am not saying that Tom and B'lanna ended up with each other because there was nothing else. But because there was less choice around, they apreciated each other more...

I thought about that too. I just had an image of an archeologist dusting off a claw holding a little fossilised leaf blower or something. Gardinerasaurus kinda thing. Or a little hari drier - Hairdresserasaurus :lol:

My personal theory is that the species developed and evolved just like us at the time, probably, of First Contact/Enterprise level of technology, although there were hundreds of thousands of other diverse species amongst them which were less evolved, like our animals today - T'Rex's being like their equivalent of our lions and so forth. They obviously predicted that the Earth was doomed and so built ships to excape the catastrophy and maybe took as much of value wth them to add to their ships since they knew they were going to be travelling for a long time. The meteorite damage on Earth may have casued tremendous earth-quakes with magmatic eruptions and so forth (I am really just making that up, but you get the idea) which may have just incinerated all evidence of technology and building. They may have used some sort of organic technology which could more easily be evaporated. The fossils we see today are just those one or two random dinosaurs from the beginning of time that got caught in mud etc and became fossilised. Maybe one day they'll find that Hairdresserasaur though...

Rank shouldn't always equate with respect and experience. Kirk (as did Picard), mere Captains, often went over the heads of Admirals as witnessed in episodes and movies, and were respected for it. The personal command skills which they have are best used in the Captain's chair. To an extent, for men who chose and seek out adventure like them, being in the Captian's chair is their life blood. Janeway was to an extent forced into her 7 year life of adventure, and given the personal and emotional sacrifices she made along the way, I am not surprised she took the Admiralty position at Star Fleet Command, feet firmly on good old Earth, when she returned. Remember, she had a scientific background and although being a fabulous commander, her heart always seemed to beat to a lesser drum. Kirk and Picard are adventurers and a desk job would both bore and destroy them (remember the washed out, depressed Kirk at the beginning if Star Trek 2!) and no "title" is worth that...

I always thought the whole Hotel Lobby look of the corridors was am attempt too far to make the ship homely. Because at the end of the day, you do not see many military vessels with potted plants, lilac carpets and glass tables with vases of lillies plopped round everywhere. First contact changed that for the better with the chrome more military Enterprise. I mean, what happens during all those attacks? Is there a "decor" team who run around rehanging all the wall art? You would pretty annoyed if your career was ended because you were hit in the face with a flying crystal floral arrangment whilst jogging up a walkway to your post, and lost an eye! Yes, I know, it was supposed to be a family friendly home as well as a ship. With a psychologist on board, so that everyone could discuss their feelings, etc etc. But the best Trek are those episodes where the Enterprise is a bad-@55 ship ready for battle. And not so much the Ideal Home Show on tour.

Could you imagine if they dug up a dinosaur in some desert and it's claw was reaching for a fosilised microwave! With a pop-tart in the other hand. Oh, the shame.

Jurassic Park 4: The Mall

"Here we have late Jurassic era dinasaurs and their popular hideout - The Mall".

I saw the trailer last night at the cinema, right before Cloverfield. It was very good. But so early isn't it! Hope the hype isn't too much etc

It isn;t just the effects and picture quality that looked dated in the beginning. The 1980s knitwear, pastel decor and the undetailed Okuda-grams in the background added to what is now a dated look.

However, in saying that, the mini-viewscreens are flat and white and recently I bought a flat white lcd tv...

The actual Remastered fight scene wasn't much better than the original, save for the blinking eyes and so on. It would've been cool if they just had've cgi'd the whole thing.

I read that when the Enterprise was destroyed, Harve Bennett and all that crowd, who were then in control o the franchise, has intended to just do away with the Enterprise and have the whole crew beam onto the Excelsior for the future movies. To sorta bring it a bit more up to date.

The greatest weakness in the movie was the fact that it was all filmed indoors with rubber plants and so forth. The Genesis planet never looked real enough and I never got the whole walking through different regions thing so quickly.

Star Trek always looked at a planet as being a mile by a mile squared. Enterprise did a good job at showing that a planet was a planet and that the ctrew were only beaming down to like one village in a region in the Northern hemisphere of a continent ON THE WHOLE PLANET rather than just beaming into a small forest or encampment and calling it The Planet...

That is like an alien beaming into your home-town, leaving and saying that it has visitied Earth and has categorised the whole planet according to that one town!

Here in the UK, TNG has moved to Bravo from a more prominant listing on Sky One. BBC Two also shows some episodes however this is in the early hours of saturday mornings. When it was on Sky One, I often flicked over to Sky One HD and it looked terrible! Really grainy like a painting by Georges Seurat. On Bravo now, it looks quite grainy and dated. We are spoiled with digital images filmed in high quality.

I think when the guys behind TOS remastered are done, they are going to turn to TNG, in particular the earlier episodes. This woul dbe good and may start a while new revival of interest for younger viewers to whom episodes of TNG like The Naked Now look as dated to as the Naked Time did to us in our lates 20s onwards ...

Just one thing though! I hope the Borg stay scary and not like Voyager - ie a pink furry dice flying through space ...

Roddenberry always said that the Enterprise is like a member of the crew with "her" own personality and so forth. Lets hope that that comes across in the movie...

I suppose we'll just have to wait and see is the right answer...

Shatner is ok, as long as it isn't "Captain Kirk Shatner".

Well, the pic we saw of the Enterprise clearly shows it under cvonstruction. I would imagine a paint job is one of the last things done to the ship.

I have seen another clip of it flying and it looks more a cross between the Nx and the TOS one

Yeah, it seems that if you are a villan long enough in Star Trek you start to become so familiar you become like an 'old friend'. The writers of Star Trek have done that time again, with the Klingons (remember when they were just down right BAD!?) and then they became this multi-cultural bunch with their own internal grievances and rich heritage and they were all really honourable and it was a rare few that played up - sigh. It just over-egged the pudding! In TOS they appeared, we all hid behind the sofa, and they did bad things. Terrible naughty people!

Then there was the Ferengi. Ouch! If they had hair, it would be ruffled by a firm hand reaching down, pinching their cheek saying "Oh you little scamp! Wait til I get you home!" DS9 took the biscuit with this with the Romulans and even the Cardasians all joining up like sailors in a submarine to face a "common enemy" the Dominion who also ended up practically wearing wooly jumpers in the end.

Stay around long enough, and you will go from enemy to hero, foe to friend.

The BORG - the most SACRED of all evil forces in Science Fiction were brilliant. A single hive mind, evil, ruthless, listened to no-one. Relentless. Terrifying.

They were reduced to enemy of the week - sometimes friend! Wow. A real soap opera. At the end of Voyager when the Queen and Janeway are lying dying together it is just Crystal and Alexis from Dynasty. Spitting venon at each other but deep down, they are "old friends" - argh, just annoys me...

What if, the one you love and wanted to marry told you it was her/him or Star Trek? ie you would have to decide between the two.

Would you:

(a) Give up the realtionship and hold out for the prospect of marrying someone who does love Star Trek,

potentially facing living the rest of your life without kids, a loving relationship and home, etc in favour of

watching your Voyager DVDs in your Seven of Nine pyjamas?

or

( Pack it all in, get married and enjoy your marriage to the one you love with your kids and home, but

deep down miss something which has probably been with you for a long time and which you love in a

different way?

And no, this is thankfully not a dilemma which I have to deal with! My partner doesn't care about Star Trek one way or the other but I can just dip into it in my own free time.

The original TOS Enterprise always looked very white and smooth compared to the subsequent refit movie Enterprise and other subsequent versions, including the prequal NX version. These were all very grey with deck plating lines visible etc. Giving one the impression that these ships were constructed by man, out of sheets of metal etc.

This new version would seem to follow that pattern. It is almost a 'first version' of the original Enterprise, which fits the lineage started by the NX. The Enterprise was presumably then re-fitted just prior to "The Cage" to look as it did during TOS and then, as we know as canon, it was re-fitted again to create the movie era look. Three re-fits perhaps?

I like it. They couldn't have used the TOS Enterprise in this movie exactly as it looked in the series. Even in the remastered TOS DVDs it looks a lot better than it did in the 60s (ie three loo roll tubes and an empty box of Dairy-lea on strings). However, it doesn't look 'real'. This new version does.

I read recently in a Q&A in Star Trek Magazine that the Aliens may very well be the Preservers referred to in that TOS episode, is it This Side of Paradise or something? The Native American one. Where Spock turns and mentions the aliens that seeded themselve across the galaxy.

In the UK its ASDA (which is part of the WALLMART 'Family' now) and TESCO that dominate the supermarkets. Marks and Spencer have a food court which is where all the posh folk shop - hand crafted croutons made from the finest Italian Bistro Deluxe Parmesan and Stone baked Crusty Granary Wheat Free Bread, etc sorta thing...

I think that this is where it all started. Prior to this, the characters were unsure, there was a rigid regurgitation of the lines and a sense of melancholy. ET phone home, type of thing.

This was a good old fashioned romp right out of TOS. Operation Earth, The Voyage Home type of thing. Teaming up Paris with Tuvok, keeping neelix and Kes to a minimum watching soaps (could someone not have given them The Days of Our Lives complete series box set to just keep them quiet for the rest of the series???), Janeway and Chakotay looking cool and relaxed in linen, sunny location - just good to watch.

Much better than a scary pink cloud and corridors bending out of shape.

Time travel - I hate it, Janeway commented. Well she was in for a load of it after this. Time travel was to pop up 6 or 7 further times, before becoming a major theme for Enterprise (ouch!). The time ship thing was interesting. A sequal would be spawned. However, one thing that did annoy me was the whole retro-developed technology thing ie our PCs come from a 29th century ship. Bit overused (ID4, etc) That didn't gel. Starling developed something like a commodore 64 at that point (haha) and he said that he couldn;t go any further. But he had transporter disrupters and phasers and all that type of thing that made Voyager systems look like an Abacus. A bit of a leap if you ask me. His mission to the 29th century seemed a bit implausible and unnecessary.

That said, all good fun. The Voyage Home meets Down and Out in Beverly Hills.

4/5 for me.

I happen to like WalMart.

I don't mind going there and they usually have everything that I need to make my shopping trip a "one-stop" affair.

Yes but would you like working there? Its the 'everything you need' element that makes it an amalgataion of all the little shops.