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Since I am a lawyer, it would have to be in Star Fleet's J.A.G. I suppose I'd wear red and travel round ships, reading materials and preparing for hearings. I'd probably have an office at Star Fleet command or on a regional Starbase, depending on where/ In which region I would be responsible for prosecuting in. I would probably receive requests at my office for hearings from Captains with a problem crew-member or so forth, and would make a preliminary decision on whether or not there is enough evidence to require a hearing.

 

I think it would be fun because I would get to meet lots of new people which I love doing. Also, I like to travel. In my real life job I travel to different courts and meet different lawyers, clients and so forth each week and spend time in my office which is my private get away.

Here's how I see it; The new uniforms were adopted for the Dominion war to prevent the enemyt from sighting them, and Identifying the command, science, and engineering personell from a distance. (big problem with emblazoning your speciality on the shoulders, the most visible part when shooting from under cover. Voyager was in the Delta quadrant, and no where near the conflict.

 

This is an interesting comment. Can I just add something which I believe to be the case. The darker uniorms were developed by Star Fleet not just because of The Dominion war, but because of darker times all around. We can recall that the Defiant was originally developed as a weapon against the Borg. The Borg have contributed to those darker times. The Borg are from the Delta Quadrant, and showed up on multiple occasions on Voyager;s journey. On those occasions, the crew of Voyager carried out many 'covert' operations.

 

Coupled with the dangers of the Kazon, the Vidiians, Species 8472, the Macro-organisms, and all of the numerous other hostile species, wouldn't it have made sense that Janeway afforded her crew the best possible protecton available ie discreet battle ready uniforms? Rather than have them run around caves and alien vessels looking like a leisure suit catelogue model outing?

 

If the unforms really were 'military technology' as such, in their dicreetness and in the problems which they caused to snipers, wouldn't they have been the best that Star Fleet could have offered to a crew which was stranded away from all other military support? A ship that was living on its wits?

 

I do not take the argument that it would have 'cost too much' to replace these uniforms, with much stock. It's just fabric at the end of the day. Look at how many velvet cat suits Kes and Seven had (joke). But in all seriosness, one uniform for seven years wouldn't be realistc. A phased use of the more updated version would have made sense, in my opinion, as well as showing pride in the institution which the crew allegedly held dear.

I know that having character cameos from all the series would be very cheesey and wreck the film. But the question was just posed FOR FUN...

Should there be cameos from each of the other series in the new movie?

 

And if so, who?

 

I say that there shouldn't be - it may make the Trek Universe way too small (like Colonel Worf in Star Trek VI TUC)

 

HOWever, just for fun I would like to suggest the following:

 

ENT: An older T'Pol, say as advisor to Sarek or perhaps his predecessor as Ambassador to Earth

 

TNG: Q - of course, you'd just love to see him lurking and being pass-remarkable, or perhaps in disguise without the other characters never knowing who he really is...

 

DS9: Dax - in an earlier incarnation (the one that was mentioned in Trials and Tribbleations as having a 'classic' tricorder)

 

VOY: An ancestor of Tuvok - could be a friend of T'Pol

 

That is just a playful suggestion but maybe you could think up better ones...

The Enterprise is flying thorugh space. Nig planet floes at them. Must beam down. Oh a castle. Oh a madman. Let's break his mirror. Argh, you broke my mirror. Im annoyed. Slap. Oh you. Mumsie voice, come on in you little brat. Ah he was just a boy. Hee hee, Spock raises an eyebrow, the end.

Is the Borg Wal-Mart? Are Wal-Mart stores big Borg Cubes made up of the sums of small towns? Are small communities being assimilated? If you work in Wal-Mart are you a drone? Tertiary adjunct of Food Isle 7, Section 4 Canned Meats???

 

I sometimes think that the Borg are an allegory of the modern age. Look at City Centres around 8.30am! Drones everywhere, beavering about, swarming to their sections, etc.

Shatner blows hot and cold. I find him to be a very self-absorbed 'me me me' type of person. 'I'm annoyed I'm not in the new movie'. 'I'm not annoyed' ... we don't really care. It's not about him. In the early series of the Sopranos, Junior is officially 'the Boss' whilst everyone knows that it is Tony who is really the main man. Same with Star Trek. Many moons ago, Shatner, growing ever annoyed with the rising popularity if the Spock character, confronts Gene Roddenberry. 'Who is the star of this show', Shatner demands? 'You are' said Gene Roddenberry. But was that true? Yes, oficially. But in reality it was Spock who was the more famous character.

 

Which character's name faeture's in one of the movie titles? Which character guest starred in The Next Generation? Yes, Spock was not in Generations - but he was meant to be! Nimoy politely declined as he had 'said his good-byes' gracefully at the end of The Undiscovered Country.

 

But now Nimoy is accepting another role, you may argue. Why, if he has said goodbye? Because Nimoy is a smart cookie. He has accepted a role in a movie which is essentially going to centre around him. It is no mistake that Spock was cast first. How many Spocks in this movie??? TWO! And we get to see a young Kirk who was cast when? After Uhuru!

 

Shatner says he is or isn't annoyed. He probably is. His ego is probably bursting with annoyance. Had he had his way, the story of the new film would have gone like this:

 

Kirk is in the gym. He is so happy that he was dug up after Generations and given a wam-bam injection that restored him to life. He was also glad that Star Fleet offered to reinstate his commission and give him a ship. Oh, saId Kirk , I must sling shot round the sun and go back in time and admire myself in my youth. One sling shot later and Kirn is back on Earth when he was a young man (played by Brad Pitt who Shatner feels is the 'dead spit' of him when he was young) riding horses and saving the galaxy... blah blah blah ... KHAN! KHAN!!!!

 

All the other characters can just blend in around him like a side salad. beside a 7oz steak.

 

Everyone will have their own opinion. But mine is simple. I am glad Shatner is not in this film. It will be much better without him. He should stick to the small screen (Boston Legal) where he is more appropriately placed.

I meant to check the credits to see if the music was by the same composer. It is true that often a composer's music sounds the same in different movies like Danny Elfman and John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith. Their respective styles are often favoured by directors and their familiarity adds quality and style to movies.

I was watching Krull the other night. Has anyone ever noticed that the music is a complete rip off of the music used in Star Trek The Wrath of Khan?!?

It is a much tighter movie with a slightly faster pace that was much needed.

 

I am sure that the original was a visual feast for the Star Trek fans of the '70s who only had their seventy odd episodes to keep them entertained which lacked the special and cgi effects which we are now used to. I am sure that at that cinematic premiere of 1979, the Motion Picture still packed awe into its audience despite being a bit of a Roddenbery God-Machine fest in pastels.

 

Only over time did it not fare well, especially against the backdrop of the personal drama of the Wrath of Khan and the subsequent movies and the later cgi battle scenes of later series, especially Voyager.

 

That said, The Motion Picture was due a bit of a renovation and the Director's Edition makes a darned good stab at it. The V'Ger exterior was much needed - it bothered me that we only saw this strange cloud thing that looked like a giant Walls Vienetta. The new ship exterior was based, in shape, on the icon on the Enetrprise's view screen depicted in the original movie - an octogon sort of shape.

 

Overall, a much mich better movie.

A Borg might be handy when your tv goes on the blink or if your computer crashes...

What about Yesterday's Enterprise?

I wonder did the blind Tuvok ever accidently put his hands anywhere he shouldn't when his aide was around...

 

I would have liked the whole of the Voyager series to have been like this episode. The writers and producers kept it all too immaculate which wasn't very reaslistic when you think about it. Half hearted attempts were made such as replicator rationing and the occasional 'out of gas' situation. But generally, they got home 'through the wilderness' in a flying hotel pretty much. Drinking champagne and playing in the holodeck. Oh yes! Silly. They should've had cracked mirrors and faulty lights, and dirty carpets, and stubble and disability and all that which a real ship thrown across the galaxy with no support from Big Brother would've actually endured. And the final episode? A hea on collision with bits falling off ... and NO REST BUTTON! Argh! Just a serious end to a series that should have brought some realism to our screens. Not a woman in a pair of silver high heels and a blonde bee-hive strutting around with a raised eye-brow whilst everyone else milled around in their tracksuits...

I am so happy to hear that Simon Pegg is to be the new Scotty. He is a great actor with a brilliant sense of humour

I would hate to have a Bajoran room-mate - they would be so moaney all the time. Oh blankets ... we never had blankets; oh replicators, we used to starve, oh moan moan moan.

I'd like to form my own department - the Fabulous Department, with their own pink uniforms. Special duties to include beaming down to boring planets and jazzing them up, livin la vie la loca honey

EYE OF THE BEHOLDER aka 'MURDER, SHE SENSED'

 

Starring

 

Deana Troi as Jessica Fletcher

Worf as the Sherrif of Cabot Cove

Riker, as the concerned witness.

Alien with Weird Triangular forehead as The Victim.

Alien with Weirder Triangular forehead as The Victim's boss.

Mean Engineering guy as The Villan.

Geordi as the Dumb Policeman

Dr Crusher as the drug-dealer.

 

..............................................................................................................................................

 

Weird Triangular forehead alien: Ho hum, it's another boring day on the Nacelle. I hope Khan doesn't take over the ship, you know what he's like with Nacelles - crash, bang wallap!

 

Weird Triangular forehead alien: Right, i've had enough of this, and i'm sick of this weird triangular bump on my head - BYE!!!

 

Riker: Hey, it's me Riker, don't do it.

 

Weird Triangular forehead alien: Argh, Riker! Can this day get any worse???

 

[jumps into plasma stream]

 

Riker: Nooooooo ..... KHAN! KHAAAAANNNNNNNN!!!!!!!! [clenches fist]

 

[Later on Deanna comes for a nosey because she has nothing else to do and she thinks she's all important now since she got a blue uniform with three pips.]

 

Deanna: Why did he do it?

 

Weirder Triangular forehead aliean: I don't know, we worked well together. He had some ideas but I soon beat those out of him. Plus my weird tringluar bump was weirder than his so I was in control.

 

Deanna: Look Worf, i'm going to go up and nosey further. You stay down here, it's not like you're the chief of security or anything.

 

Work: Ok [thinks - I love you]

 

Deanna: Ooooooh faces, oooh i'm dizzy. I'm outta here.

 

[in sickbay]

 

Dr Crusher: Deanna I can give you some drugs to...

 

Deanna: Yes Doctor. Yes - i'll take them.Yes.

 

[Later on Deanna is in her quarters - you know they are her's because they are lit up all pink and grirly, like her]

 

Deanna: I'll put on my old faded skin -ight purple jump suit, the one i've had for 6 years, that'll cheer me up. Oh look it's Worf.

 

Worf: Grrrrrr.... meau!!!

 

Deanna: Oooh baby, get between my silk sheets.

 

The next morning, Deanna is looking very unbruised [remember how Dax looked - broken arms and everything!?] Worf is being all lovey dovey - This ain't right!

 

More shots of Deanna running around looking shocked, Geordi looking annoyed, Data looking comical - the next time I unplug my PC it'll feel like Euthanasia!!!

 

Deanna goes back to the Nacelle. Why don't you just stay away Deanna? Hmmm?!? Go to Ten Forward, have a choco supreme deluxe or something else trite...

 

Don't jump!!! [it's Worf]

 

Deanna: Oh it was all a dream. Like Dallas. Accept it's not Bobby in the shower. It's me, in the Nacelle.

 

Deanna: ... and that's the whole story Captain.

 

Captain Picard: How very interesting. Okay, helm, plot a course to the Orion Memory Alpha VI station .... wait for it, wait for it ... ... ... wait for it ... ENGAGE!!!!!

 

Worf: Did me go boom boom in your dreem Diana?

 

Deanna: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, skips across the bridge to the turbo shaft [please do an LA Law, please, just one, now's the time]

 

The end

Oh look, a big massive ball thing, it's massive.

 

Yes, and look, there's a wee ship stuck to it. Let's go look.

 

Oh this is nice, old ship, and hey, the transporter is still on.

 

Oh yeah, hey look, if I hit this button

 

[bing, wrrrrrrrrr, waaaahhh....]

 

Wud ye stap standin ther and gee me a hug ya big lug...

 

Oh look it's tht Scotty bloke, looking thinner than when he was in Generations, but bigger than Undiscovered Country - come on board the Enterprise D sir

 

D?

 

Yes, D?

 

Aye, sun, al rite then, ye ken

 

On board the Enterprise D

 

Fine vessel, wat does that do

 

Leave that alone

 

R that?

 

Look, just push off old man.

 

Later on - aye im drunk, i'll go sit on me old bridge

 

Later on - oh we're in trouble, help

 

Ah'll help

 

Oh thats, phew thankfully you were here. have a shuttle pod.

 

Cheers.

 

The end

The Director's cut is very good. I like the way, when they decided to design a V'Ger ship they shaped it to match in with the original 1970s display on the viewscreen, ie the octogon shape, that was the only thing the new designers had to go on.

 

I loved the shag-pile carpet design of the ship, and the brown cool outfits. Like being in your pjs...

Look, I've brought a big hot silver ball I just found lying around.

 

Oh, what's in it?

 

Mushroom soup.

 

Yummy, let's get stuck in. How'd ya make it?

 

Well, Neelix wouldn't let me have the mushrooms...

 

[ha ha]

 

So I had to wrestle them off him

 

[ha ha ha]

 

So he booted me out of the kitchen

 

[in stiches]

 

Then we had a morale emergency to distract him...

 

[Chakotay on the floor, soup everywhere, sides splitting]

 

And then I nicked the mushrooms and hey - voila!

 

[sober] oh that's awful, you're bad, very bad, i'm grounding you all... you... mushroom thieves!!!!

 

AND SO SEASON ONE CONTINUES.... sigh

Star Trek Enterprise has, in a cannon way, taken original Star Trek episodes that have been around for 40 years or so and tied bits of it together, like loose threads we never knew were there.

 

Take, for example, the TOS first season episode Space Seed - little did we know at the time, that the genetic descendants of Khan and other genetic throwbacks from the '1990s' like him, were actually the cause of the Klingon's appearance in TOS. Ie, that the Superhumans' genes were used at the time of the series Enterprise, by Klingon researchers to try to create a super-Klingon equivalent, resulting in a disease that removed the Klingons' bumps that were seen from The Motion Picture to date.

 

Another tie-in is between the TOS second season episode Mirror Mirror and its third season's The Tholian web. Little did viewers know for all those years, that the Defiant actually slipped into a mirror universe where it had a knock on effect for the inhabitants of that universe resulting in those characters and events that occurred in Mirror Mirror.

 

Other things we took for granted in TOS were also 'explained' by Enterprise, such as why Vulcan was so baron looking (Nuclear wars) yet had produced so much life; where 'Red' alert had come from (aka Reid alert, groan) and so on.

 

WAS THIS ALL NECESSARY? HAS IT MERELY TAMPERED WITH SOMETHING SACRED????

The last one - so that I knew I didn;t have to see him again. DS9 is the only series I just panned after it was finished. I would never buy box sets or watch re-runs. Just wasn't my cup of tea and Odo was one of the many reasons why... (sorry :VBGal2: )

It's funny that no other ships went through similar refits. It seems cheaper to just build a whole new one, given the time it woul dtake to strip one down and re-build it. I built the Polar Lights model last week. There were two options: either build it as the refit or as the Enterprise A. I chose the latter. The TOS one is the real Enterprise. It should have been the Enterprise A from the start ie The Motion Picture. Would have made more sense - tag could have been, "New Enterprise, New Mission, Same old Crew..." and NO BL00DY V'Ger rusty old satellite dish upgraded to the size of a galaxy with the intelligence of three billion ipods, kinda non-sense...

A new extreme villan, from a new extreme race - that's what's needed. First Contact was good because of the Borg. The Sona were rubbish - they were like a race of evil Joan Rivers. An evil young Picard was just yawn. I liked Soran - because he was English. English people make for good baddies in a cheesey sort of way. Maybe they should have Alexis from the Planet Dynasty. Big shoulder pads, red finger nails, and a ritzy glitzy star ship (jacuzzi of course, darling)

Today's so called 'contemporary designs' are anything but. The consumers with the largest disposable income (the aged 21-35 year olds) arethe target of major manufacturers and corporations whose aim it is to sell this market as much stuff that they don't need, or to replace that which they have as much as possible. The wheels of industry survives on sales. The majority of designs now - including furniture, cars, even movies are all based on those well known designs of the past and are dubbed 'retro'. The idea is that today's 21-35 year olds are so stressed with modern life, in their homes and in their free time they do not want to be reminded of such pressures. They, in effect, enjoy being taken back to a time in their lives when life was stress free ie their childhood. Retro movies, interior spaces, that encase modern technology, are so atractive in that they fulfill this aim. Watching a Scooby Doo movie whilst drinking a bubble gum flavoured alcoho-pop off your wood laminate table feels comfortable. Reminds you of a by gone era. How does this then tie in with TOS you may ask? Well, I think it's obvious. It is no mistake that now is the time that TOS has undergone a major face life. It is the essence of retro cool. The new episodes combine new state of the art technology with that 1960s comfortable feel. Reminiscent of staurday mornings in bed, before you had responsiblities such a walking the dog, cleaning out the fridge and mowing the lawn. These new episodes also, coincidently, serve to produce a new batch of HD DvDs that can replace those other Dvds you bought to replace the cleaned up VHS Cassettes you bought to replace the previous VHS Casettes you had bought to replace the Beta Max videos - and so on, and so on. No doubt, we avid fans will all be clambering t buy these new super improved Dvd box sets. However, I was in Thailand recently and I have seen the future - 3d televisions. I kid you not. A woman pouring a jug of ornage juice has never been so riveting. And I am sure in 10-15 yeras time, Star Trek TOS 3D will probably be as mush a triumph as TOS remastered is now...