Stephen of Borg 2 Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) Click For Spoiler tell that to Trip :lol: not to mention all of the times Brent Spiner was asked if he was dead and every time he said that Data was dead Edited October 21, 2005 by Gamera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trekfan 0 Posted October 21, 2005 I know death comes sometimes, but not to Data! I cry each time I watch the end of Nemesis movie. But, I know he died like a hero protecting his fellow officers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sikkbones 0 Posted January 14, 2006 data dying was the best ending to the star trek TNG movie franchise... hopefully it stays that way,,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MANVERU 0 Posted January 15, 2006 *takes out a butcher knife* *attempts to hunt down "sikkbones"* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sikkbones 0 Posted January 16, 2006 *takes out a butcher knife* *attempts to hunt down "sikkbones"* *takes out sniper rifle... clips him in the head.. bang yer dead...* data being gone is an excellent coda to the TNG series.. data was my favorite character but w/o his search for humanity that was a main plot of TNG the series is officially dead the way it should be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garzo 0 Posted April 21, 2006 In the end, the writers created a hackneyed solution to the death. While Spock's death was reversed by the whole Genesis device which was a major plot in the film, so too could Data's death have been reversed by the convenient inclusion of his prototype double, B4, who ended up with all of Data's memory, essentially making him a reincarnation of Data. Nemesis was such a blatant take on TWOK -- Spock transfering his soul into McCoy/Data transfering his memory into B4. Both characters sacrificing themselves for their ships and crew, but both with the possibility of coming back from death. Had the movie series continued, B4 could and probably would have quickly evolved into a new Data, but left wtih a few gaps in his memory, like Spock was in Star Trek IV. All in all, Data's death was too contrived and only served to underscore his existence in New Generation as the "Spock" character for the new series -- including his eventual death. In the end, they could have done something more original instead of simply adhering to the Spock parallel all the way through to his death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krysis 2 Posted May 2, 2006 I am just wondering... why didn't Data transfer his personality matrix (or whatever its equivalent might be) to the Enterprise computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted May 2, 2006 I am just wondering... why didn't Data transfer his personality matrix (or whatever its equivalent might be) to the Enterprise computer. Probably because he was on a Romulan ship at the time and couldn't access the Enterprise computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
He Who Shall Not Be Named 2 Posted May 2, 2006 I am just wondering... why didn't Data transfer his personality matrix (or whatever its equivalent might be) to the Enterprise computer. Because they tried that in A Fistfull of Datas and it didn't work out too well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yillara Skye 1 Posted May 5, 2006 (edited) I am just wondering... why didn't Data transfer his personality matrix (or whatever its equivalent might be) to the Enterprise computer. Because they tried that in A Fistfull of Datas and it didn't work out too well. *gets bad memory of seeing Data in drag at the end of that episode and starts shaking my head and praying nobody posts that pic again* And we do not want to have THAT happen again Edited May 5, 2006 by Yillara_Skye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Data 0 Posted May 8, 2006 Takara probably still has that picture. :VBGal: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yillara Skye 1 Posted May 8, 2006 Takara probably still has that picture. :VBGal: You are probably correct, Data. *shudder* oh, please Takara please do not post that pic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morbius 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Data is my most fav character so at the time I was bugged when he died. But I have to admit those who have made the arguments about Brent Spiner aging and about how the interest and the appeal of the character had pretty much been gone ever since he gained the emotion chip are quite strong arguments. In fact I would say it was the emotion chip more than anything killed of the Data character! I mean for me its hard to have seen where and how they could have taken the Data character foward. I mean if they introduced new things for Data to struggle then in my opinion it wouldnt work. The data I grew up following was a character trying to become more human, so trying to introduce new things would just essentially wipe the slate clean and we would essentially have a completely new character to deal with. At the end of the day it probably was the sensible thing to do and as much as I love data I aint upset over it since I can easily put on a TNG DVD and see Data in all his glory. So as far as I'm concerend he aint dead to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted February 11, 2008 I didn't like them killing Data, in fact because of that I've only watched the movie maybe once or twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Armstrong 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Well, I'm not much of a TNG man. I've only seen Nemesis once. But I would have preferred they kept Data around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star_rose 0 Posted February 18, 2008 Data shouldn't die! I mean, all must die , but normally they die when they are almost 90 years old or more... I don't accept that Brent is alive and Data not! I have sent a comment on this horrible end in his blog, which he has created only a few days ago... and he didn't answer to me! sob! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted February 18, 2008 Data shouldn't die! I mean, all must die , but normally they die when they are almost 90 years old or more... I don't accept that Brent is alive and Data not! I have sent a comment on this horrible end in his blog, which he has created only a few days ago... and he didn't answer to me! sob! Why do you think that Data is dead? This is Sci-fi and we never saw a body. I believe that Data's disembodied head is still floating around space just waiting to be attached to B4's body..... <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star_rose 0 Posted February 18, 2008 I think so because Brent said so in several interviews.... Have you seen his new blog on myspace.com? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ussvwbeetle 0 Posted February 20, 2008 I didn't like the fact that data died. He was one of my favorite characters on there. He did die for a reason, it wasn't a senseless one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ Phaserman 2 Posted February 20, 2008 it was because picard was originally supposed to die and they changed the script due to several conflicts...but thats one of 16 of my conspiracy theories on to why data died and nemesis sucked so badly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMajorHayes 10 Posted February 20, 2008 Yes. Imo he should have died and rightfully so he did :P . His death gave his character a gentle nobility that was not seen in the other TNG crewmembers...... and at least he had something Picard always lacked.... courage. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trekz 7 Posted February 20, 2008 Yes. Imo he should have died and rightfully so he did :P . His death gave his character a gentle nobility that was not seen in the other TNG crewmembers...... and at least he had something Picard always lacked.... courage. :o Wait just a minute ... you say Picard had no courage?!? :P He went back to save Data when he could have left him to be destroyed along with the Enterprise and the Borg Queen. He struggled while still connected with the collective and was able to give the answer that helped allow Enterprise to destroy the Bog cube ... sleep. Picard as portrayed by Patrick Stewart has tons of nobility and courage, and you can't flip the off switch on him either ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeeingEyeBorg 0 Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) I don't think Data should have died. It was a pointless death, I mean, why didn't they use the shuttlecraft transporters? Why didn't they create two of those little transporter devices instead of one? Why didn't Jean-Luc just set his phaser on overload and then beam back aboard the Enterprise? Or much simpler, why didn't they just beam such a phaser set on overload aboard the Scimitar, right next to that green whateveritisIforgotthename? There are so many possibilities which could have saved Data, and yet... this is what I mean when I say it was a pointless death. In TWOK, Spock died because he was the only one who could do the job - Data died just because it was convenient for the writers to let him die. :P I know, he did it in order to save Jean-Luc, and I am more than just grateful, I don't know what I would have done if they had killed Jean-Luc, but still, it's just... wrong that Data died. :o A-freakin'-men! :P They couldn't have just killed someone else? I noticed that Wesley was back in uniform.... Edited February 20, 2008 by SeeingEyeBorg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldfan1 0 Posted February 21, 2008 I think Data should have died somewhere in the series or at least been transferred. The character started out being enjoyable but eventually became as annoying as another character that should have died and not just sent to Starfleet Academy....... Wesley Crusher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Picard 12 Posted February 21, 2008 They couldn't have just killed someone else? I noticed that Wesley was back in uniform.... :P You know, it would actually have made me enjoy "Nemesis" if they had killed Wesley. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itchygomba69 0 Posted February 21, 2008 am I the only one who liked Nemesis! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RikerChick 5 Posted February 21, 2008 am I the only one who liked Nemesis! It's quite possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOfTheBorg 1 Posted February 21, 2008 am I the only one who liked Nemesis! I loved nemesis. 2nd favourite movie, apart from First contact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted February 21, 2008 am I the only one who liked Nemesis! I as well as my son both loved Nemesis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites