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I actually like the way it ended.  For me, the show was about the journey home.  The whole plot of the show was to get home.  In the pilot, we were introduced to everyone, then woosh to the Delta Quadrant.  Really, that's how they should should have and did end.  I would have preferred a little more than what we saw once they did get home.  I wanted to see Voyager land on Earth and then end credits, but, I guess Voyager flying toward Earth with a fleet will do. :)

 

To be honest, if they did a number of episodes with everyone going home and spending time with their families...  it would'a been a mushy borring ending.  Now, if they had a whole season or more to do a story about what happens when they get back, then they could pull it off.

 

Also, here's a question:

 

In the final scene, did anyone notice this Voyager, a Defiant-class ship, and a Galaxy-class ship?  Enterprise-D, Defiant, Voyager, you could say, all in the same shot.  Anyone liked this as much as I did?

:) Captain, I too enjoyed the "Endgame." And it wasn't so much that I wanted to see the crew interact with their families. As you said that would have truly been a lot of "mushy stuff." I was only trying to resolve in my mind the issues that the "Caretaker" introduced, with each of these characters. I think it only natural to be curious and to understand how these issues with Tom, B'Elanna, and Chakotay would be handled once the crew returned to earth. Many of these issues kept coming up in episodes of Voyager. So they weren't minor things we fans could forget.........Still, I very much appreciate your thoughts and comments.......And no I must honestly say that I didn't notice a Defiant class ship, and a Galaxy-class ship in the final scene. "Endgame" was one of many Voyager episodes that I taped. I'd better go back and watch it again. Thanks :)

:) Guess I'm the only Trekkie that thinks Chakotay is a fine, handsome, sexy, good looking. :) :)

I liked the fact that they made it home but I thought that they could elaborate a little more.

The show should have centered around the main characters situations after they reached headquarters and beyond.  In order for all this to occur, they would have had to make a four hour series finale instead of a two hour series finale.   :)

This would have been fine with me. It would have left fewer questions in the minds of many fans. As it was it left me wondering whether it meant an up coming movie was going to be made that would elaborate more on what really happened when the crew first returned home. But now I've learned that a book called Homcoing responds to the questions I've raised. :) [/size]

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I think Tuvok measured up to what a true Vulcan is suposed to be.  T'Pol, on the other hand, seems to be too emotional for most viewers taste.  If any of you watch Enterprise on UPN then you know what I am speaking of.  For example, last week there were two episodes shown.  The latter showed T'Pol acting too emotional. 

 

ENOUGH SAID! :devil:

 

I think Tuvok beats T'Pol in this bout.   :)

:) Yes, I saw those episodes, and questioned how Tuvok would have handled the same situations. I think this has been one of my problems with T'pol, she goes from one extreme to the next. Tuvok was quite consistent with what I hold to be Vulcan culture. Thanks for your comments.......and I agree. :)

well then cant you just keep on mutin it? why do you mute it, its a great song whats wrong with it that you dont like. just wondering

Yes, it is a great song. Actually I like the song, I just think it doesn't sound appropriate for a Star Trek series.....And yes, I realize I'm in the minority of fans who feel this way.

I like fishing........A saying among fishermen/women when they see someone's fishing rod or pole bending is: "GOT A BITE?"

I find the Vulcan culture and discipline fascinating so for me it would be T'Pol

Afraid of heights, loss of control/dementia, becoming blind, cockroaches.......such diversity in my list

i enjoyed endgame as well, and was one of those people who wanted them to make it home. but like you i also had a lot of questions. but if you wait for the upcoming voyager book, titled "Homecoming" it will answer all of your questions. on the simon and schuster website: http://www.simonsays.com you can read a chapter 1 excerpt from the book. it tells us that all the maquis will be given a general pardon providing they return to starfleet. they put up the entire chapter for us to read, so take a look and alot of questions are answered in that one short teaser from the book..

Thank you for the information about the book. I think I want to buy this one.

CHAKOTAY!!!!!!!.......Tom Paris is next in line for me.

I know I am one who enjoyed the Voyager finale "Endgame." But I guess among the things that I always wanted to know when and if Voyager returned home, was how Tom's situation would be handled................remember, he was still considered a criminal who was serving time, when he left earth. Also Chakotay and B'Elanna, member's of the MaQuis, were being sought as members of a rebellion.....and would have jailed if caught. That's how Voyager got trapped anyway, pursuing the MaQuis.

At the beginning of Endgame there's the reunion scene celebrating the Voyager's return. Seven is dead and we also learn that Chakotay is dead. We see that B'Elanna and Tom are together, still as happy as ever, and we are left only to assume things..........we don't know whether all were pardoned, put on probation for a while, had to serve some jail time, had to do community service(smiles)............I don't know, maybe I'm the only one who wondered what the Federation was going to do when/if Voyager returned. But when I was left to assume, it bothered me.

I thinkwe're straining awee bit here for topics to talk about when we go into the actors' hair do's! But anyway, I thought that all the hair do's were ok except for Janeway's bun: as they said, when her hair came down, so did the tone of the show. And Kes's hair was a bit "fake" looking as well. Bellana's eyebrows were initially a bit mad if you remember. k

Yes, I do remember B'Elana's FIRST eyebrows. They were really "far out." Along with it her first wig made her look much more Klingon, than half human, half Klingon.

Seems so far that Tuvok has the most votes. But I have also enjoyed reading the comments made about T'Pol

Have you ever heard someone speak with a Southern accent and maybe started thinking they're maybe not too bright?  Don't be embarrassed - I have one and I still do it.

 

There was an article in the Florida Times Union yesterday about Southern stereotypes in films/tv.  It was pretty funny but also kind of sad because I know some people take it at face value.  They left out my regional favorite.  All women from Florida it seems used to work as mermaids at Weeki Watchee - if I see that again in another movie I'll scream.

 

Anyway, in one of the other threads someone mentioned "Trip" was a good Southern boy on the outside but there was "more" to him on the inside.  I'm sure they meant to compliment "Trip" but what's wrong with the insides of Southerners?

 

Have you ever noticed the stereotype?

 

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Unfortunately I agree with you, because I've heard people make stereotype people from the south, using terms like "southern mentality," and terms like you know how "southern women are." Living in the south where others from different parts of the country have migrated, I am always hearing people mimicking southern accents. Although my accent is not quite as pronounced as some when I have lived in other parts of the country, I have been teased about "my southern accent." So I would say, some of my experiences lead me to agree with you.

You know, beside Nelix species, I would also have to say that species 8472 I found pretty "cool." They were made to look evil by the Borg. But they were merely defending themselves.

I mute it every time.

SoDo I!!! [/size]

I have watched all of Voyager. I watched numerous episodes of TOS when it was originally on the air. I am now catching up on episodes of TNG. I guess I 've watched about 400 episodes.

My vote goes to The Caretaker.......great story........great plot.

Believe it or not I watched the original for many years and never really considered myself a Trekkie. When it went into reruns and TNG began, I stopped watching for YEARS. It was not until I discovered VOYAGER in it's 4th season that I trully became a Trekkie. Now, I have gone back to the reruns of both TNG and TOS. I also watch Enterprise. I've tried Deep Space NIne. But it's not my favorite. But anyway, since Voyager I've become a Star Trek fanatic.

One of my favorite episodes was FACES. It was an early episode in Season I. In this episode B'Ellanna is split into two personalities, one human and one Klingon. Of course each is at odds with the other, and struggles to understand and appreciate the other. But because of the crisis they find themselves in they are forced to work together. Towards the end the Klingon personality is mortally wounded trying to save the human B'Ellanna. Now the reason I especially liked the plotof this episode is because it truly helped me to understand her torments and struggles. It also led me to believe that at some point B'Ellanna would come to admire and apprecialate her Klingon ancestory more. I learned more about the human side of B'Ellanna, with the personalities split. I also liked how the episode concluded.......and Roxane Dawson did some very fine acting.

Greetings!

 

So, who liked the episode "Fury"?  I have a question to start us off.  

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How come Kes seemed old in this episode?  "Before and After" established that she wouldn't start getting old till she turned 8.  In "Fury", Kes was only 6.

 

Anyone got any ideas as to why she seemed to age prematurely?

Please use the spoiler button. Really. I mean that has ruined that episode for me.

Your point about Kes looking so old, was one of the first things to turn me off when the episode aired for the first time. I kept asking myself, "Why does she look so old already?" This I could never figure out......nor do I recall it ever being explained. The fact that they aged her with no explaination, plus made her into a villian........none of it made much sense to me. None of my Star Trek friends enjoyed this episode either.