xenexian 2 Posted March 11, 2004 Something occured to me while watching (again), First Contact. When Picard makes his big speech to Lily in his ready room and vows to make the Borg "pay" for what they've done, it seemed to me that if anyone would know about the Borg it would have to be Jean Luc himself, since he was assimilated himself and has some pretty tragic memories about the entire episode before being rescued. But then last saturday, the Voyager episode "Unimatrix 0" was re-played and in that episode, the heroic Captain Janeway, who by now has meet the Borg and defeated them more than Picard has, vows to stop the Borg queen from destroying unimatrix 0 by incorporating a virus into their central plexus (?) byh becoming assimilated herslef along with Tuvok and Belanna. Since, when you become assimilated you become part of the hive mind, doesn't it work both ways? I mean if the Borg can use what you know to better themselves, wouldn't someone being released from tyhe collective retain the memories and thoughts of what the Borg are doing and thinking and use that against them? Could this be what made Janeway so effective against the Borg on their home turf or was she just lucky? And because of her repeated encounters with the Borg always resulted in her getting the upper hand, wouldn't that make her the undisputed expert on all things Borg? As Lt. Barclay put it in "Endgame", she wrote the book on the Borg for Starfleet, even though as the series ended that became an alternate timeline. Who would you prefer to have on your side in an encounter with the Borg, Picard or Janeway? In my opinion, Janeway becomes my first round draft choice to defeat the borg over Picard? Opposing views and thoughts, as always, are welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted March 11, 2004 Picard was linked to the collective for 6 days. Janeway was assimilated for a number of hours, she was never linked to the collective thanks to help from Holo-Doc. While Janeway has more experrience, I think I'd go with Picard since he knows the Borg inside and out and can even here the collective thoughts when a ship is near by. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Picard 12 Posted March 11, 2004 I agree with CJLP. Jean-Luc knows more about the Borg than anyone else (except Seven of Nine). I would prefer him at my side when it comes to a battle against the Borg. Mrs. Captain Picard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gotabite 0 Posted March 11, 2004 (edited) Personally I'd prefer Janeway because of her vast encounters/ experience, and because she had Seven.......the biggest wealth of information anyone ever had in dealing with the Borg :borg: :borgqueen: Edited March 11, 2004 by Gotabite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted March 11, 2004 janeway, hands down, walking away. She's been assimilated,come back from, and defeated them in battles. Plus the fact that she has restored 7 to her humanity and is very close to her. 7 has shared much information about the inner workings of the Borg with her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILIKESEVEN 0 Posted March 11, 2004 SEVEN IS THE EXPERT IN BORG!!!! :borgqueen: :borgqueen: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stoned_vulcan 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Janeway wood b the expert woodnt she? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted March 12, 2004 I gotta go with Janeway. Picard slapped their hands but Janeway whooped their little assimilated hinnies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSonofvulcan 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Picard does since he was once one, made 1st contact, and still hears them. Janeway, while experienced, is by no means more knowing than Picard about the borg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Bolivar 0 Posted March 12, 2004 I'd say the Borg queen! lol. However, between Picard and Janeway, it would definately be Picard. Janeway always got her intelligence from Seven, Picard is the intelligence. In first contact he knew where to strike whereas nobdy had a clue. Even when he told them where to shoot he was questioned as to the logic of it. They didn't think it was a vital part of the cube... but it certainly was. Go Locutus! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mfa_angelfire 0 Posted March 12, 2004 picard because he was infact assimulated in to their collective Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted March 13, 2004 Janeway. She is fearless and resourceful in dealing with the Borg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangon 3 Posted March 13, 2004 I would have to say picard but janeway did have to deal with the borg a lot too. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSonofvulcan 0 Posted March 13, 2004 Also, Commander Shelby is an expert. You can see where she is tamin the purple eyed-xenexian captain Calhun on the starship Excelaber in the new frountier seris :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takara_Soong 4 Posted March 13, 2004 I'm going to have to add Data to the list. He did interface with the Borg information system in BOBW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DixonHill1989 0 Posted March 14, 2004 7 i mean heck she was a borg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livlonganprospe 0 Posted March 14, 2004 (edited) Picard, Data and Hue.....the Dream Team. Mod's note: just fixed code. Edited March 14, 2004 by Takara_Soong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Phaserman 0 Posted March 14, 2004 Seven of Nine and Jean Luc Picard. both have been inside the collective. Seven practically grew up as a Borg Drone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Vash 0 Posted March 15, 2004 (edited) SEVEN OF NINE can jean-luc recite the number for every species the borg has ever encountered NO! Edited March 15, 2004 by Capt.Vash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted March 17, 2004 I think that Seven and Picard are the experts..... Seven is the expert in technology... Picard is the expert in the psychological part of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites