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And we have seen other shape shifing species that were not connected with the founders. What about that species that was hunted by the Eska (sp) I think during Enterprise's 1st season? They were on a dark planet with a hunting party that hunted the shape shifters, and one of them sought out Archer for help. They were clearly not related to the founders.

A nice read. Interesting that we see the atrocities the Colonel Green. Wasn't he the one in that episode of TOS that was one of the four representatives of evil ( with Kirk, Spock, Lincoln, and the Vulcan founder of their culture of logic being the representatives of good) showing an alien culture the difference between good and evil?

In one of two rooms of my condo: dining room table, because it is bright and sunny in that area,

and my "study" ( a little roon off the kitichen), also bright, but not sunny, places where I work peacefully!

I should be grading papers. :blink:

Your post was NOT too long. I was only making a suggestion of what you could have done to get repsonses more quickly, since you expressed concern that no one had responded to that first post. People take longer to respond to long posts.

When I suggested you break it up, I did not mean that you would post 10 consecutive installments. I meant that you would pick a key idea or theme and start a conversation on it, and after that conversation was going, start a thread with you next thought.

You noticed that no one has responded to every issue you raised in your long post.

I only meant to give some advice on how to get the conversation going. I did not intend to be critical.

It was a tough movie to watch because of the child abuse, and because when A. Fisher finally found his mother, she was so unresponsive.

The hopeful aspect of the story was the fact that A. Fisher finally overcame all this, and the love he eventually found with some of his relatives and the girlfriend I hope he eventually married.

An interesting subplot was that A. Fisher's psychiatrist had personal struggles of his own, which his relationship with Fisher forced to a head.

Of course this movie was important being Denzel Washington's debut as a director. ( I love Denzel!)

A pretty good movie... I have it on video.

I don't really remember how long I lurked, AE, but I think it was around six weeks. And I may be confusing how long I was a member before I posted anything with how long I took before I joined.

I joined because I had been lurking only at st.com, and was afraid to participate. I read posts in hopes of finding good comments on Star Trek, particlarly Enterprise. I became disillusioned, and went to a site advertised there, which turned out to be an anti-Enterprise site. It was a large site...I can't remember what it was.

I went back to st.com, still not having joined anything, and noticed a mention of this site. So I came here. I went back and forth between st.com and here for a while. I joined stf.net because I mistakenly thought you had to be a member to be able to read the threads. I never had any intention of posting...I wanted to lurk and not be seen. I was even embarrassed while my name remained on the new members list. I never went to the new members forum to introduce myself...I had no intention of talking. I was surprised when I received a welcome e-mail from you.

But I noticed a lot of the people were Chrisitians, and they seemed to be having fun talking. And so many of the comments were thoughtful and had depth. So one day I started talking. I remember the first thing I commented on was televangelists in off-topic (or maybe Risa). And, as you know, I have kept talking, and even arguing!

I have yet to join another message board, but if I do it will probably be one connected with members here I feel I "know."

That's my story!

I'm really enjoying watching how a good, decent man, an easygoing man who only wants to explore and make friends is being transformed into a warrior and a hero almost against his will.  Is it heroic to steal, even out of dire necessity?  I don't know.  I do think it is heroic to make hard decisions and accept the consequences, no matter how damaging they are to you're ability to sleep at night, however.

 

I'll bet he he keeps hearing that marauder's voice over and over in his head, "Morality will not serve you well in the Expanse, Captain."

Yes, this transformation is something to watch. I still hope that he somehow manages to correct the warp coil situation once they complete their mission, on their return trip home to earth. I actually expect this of him.

Because no matter what that marauder said about morality, Archer still has it. He has done things expediently, but he has not adopted that approach as a way of life. He still has a conscience.

I tried this thread in another forum, and it doesn't seem as popular there. At least here I can see who has seen the final Chapter, or who has remembered it.

What you might try to do is break this up into a series of threads related to your different thoughts on the final arc. For instance you might talk about the relationship of Winn and Dukat, or the demise of Gowron. Or was that last arc satisfying?

But putting so many thougths in one thread probably leaves many would be responders saying...

" I'll come back later. Too much to think about."

I don't remember (because I haven't seen) all the episodes of DS9, so I cannot at the moment comment specicifcally on the episodes and questions you mentioned, except to say I did not much care for the relationship between Winn and Dukat either.

But I did love the final episode of DS9. That lively bustling station, where Nog is a starfleet officer is such a contrast to the spent hull being rapidly vacated (where Nog was a thief ) when Sisko first arrived. The restored station was a testament to a restored life.

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Agreed!!

That epsiode is full of deep love and deep pain, and the restoration at the end does not spare the viewer from emotional roller coaster of Jake Sisko's life-long struggle to save his father, or the emotional impact of his final self-sacrifice.

Plus that episode gives us insight into later episodes, including the one where Jake's passion to be a writer used by this vampire-like creature who nearly kills him. Also we understand the final episode where Jake and Kira stand together looking longingly at the wormhole, where their loved ones are.

I liked the DS9 pilot very much for the very reason the thread starter despises it... it started out giving the weakness and brokeness of a main character. Up to then we watched our Star Trek heroes out on their great adventures, and usually see them at their best. But aren't they still human beings?

The Federation was routed at wolf359. What happened to the people who fought and lost there? How do they feel about Picard, who helped the Borg win there? We see what happened to the restored Picard in the TNG episode Family...even he was devastated by the experience. But we had already know Picard as a heoric character so seeing him vulnerable was a treat and a departure from the usual fare.

Now in comes a series DS9 that introduces us to a character, Sisko, who had a rising career until wolf359, where he lost his beloved wife. His life and career had been in limbo for a while after that, and he was a given a new command even though he had not yet recovered from the emotional blow of that loss.

Of course we and Sisko learn through the Prophets that Sisko actually is trapped in that moment when his wife died, and once Sisko sees that, he understands at last that he has to move on from there. And that is the start of the series DS9. An officer begins to build his career again after a devastating loss at wolf359. Of course this plot is complicated by a myriad of different subplots, and the fact that the Prophets are influencing a lot of what is going on.

If you give it time, as others have said, you can see. And the final epsiode of the series pulls together all the various threads and subplots, and leaves the viewer quite satisfied with a well-woven saga.

(Of course you can see from my avatar that I quite admire the man!)

Okay...what's paintball?

TOS is the best as far as I am concerned. Most of the episodes were thought-provoking as well as entertaining.

from 60 degrees south to Antarctica. CIA Factbook-Southern Ocean

So this Southern Ocean is a new ocean recently fashioned from parts of the Pacific, Atlantic, and Indian Oceans in the year 2000 by a group of learned folks. Okay, so now I know.

Yes, I believe miracles still happen today.

My prayers go out for his family and loved ones.

I did not find Family sad, but it is one of my favorite TNG episodes. I enjoyed finding out that family still played a supporting pivotal role in the lives of trek characters! The ending scene with the nephew dreaming was one of the best scenes in TNG, and really connects us to the future, because many of us spent nights staring at the stars, and dreaming.

My heart was broken when they chose to to kill off Picard's brother and nephew in Generations. That nephew whould have been allowed to grow up and follow in Picard's footsteps. That is one of the writing decisions I loathe. ( Of course Nemesis would not have had the same impact ....)

This question is slightly off topic. Was Casey Biggs Ligate Damar in DS9?

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Thank you from some of my students. :)

:) Well, where is the Southern ocean?

At this point in my life I just accept the fact that some people will have preconceptions about me, or form misconceptions about me. I very much acsribe to that adage "Time will tell." Many people have thought things about me that they have come to realize, over time, were simply not true. But I have also had to learn to live with lies about me, which some people in my professional life believe. I can't change their minds, and do not try to. I just forgive and move on, living the best life I know how.

Waiting to find out if my Fall 2004 teaching schedule will remain the same, or if it will be completely changed.

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Congratulations on 1000 posts, Captain Bolivar!

I rated the episode an 8. I enjoyed it for the most part but

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This is one of those episodes that had my stomach turning flips.

I have found that the things that change my life aren't so much the things I had planned

 

how can something you plan change your life?

Planned changes can include strivng to earn an advanced degree or getting married. Those are often planned changes in your life, they really change your living situation and affect you and cause you to grow and change.

But I think the point some are trying to make is that the unplanned unexpected events in your life are what bring about fundamental change, force you to examine your whole view of life, force you to contend with why you even go on living, and often cause you to revisit those conclusions as you continue the trek through life.

It has been ten years since I lost the one person in this world to whom I was special. I have a large loving, family but I was only special to one of them. The physical world has a whole different "feel" with her not in it. I have learned to live in such a world through growth in my religous faith. But that growth was fueled by the unexpected stark change.