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Not exactly, for 1 thing being anywhere she wants in that manner isn't their style, she already can do that in the Collective's Hive-Mind, having a physical body anywhere is pointless. :)

about new Queens. Its just that, they are new/replacements.

:borgqueen: > :borgqueen:

When a Queen dies, they just choose a drone, any female drone & disembodied that drone leaving only her brain & download all past knowledge of previous Queens of the past. Typically its a new individual with old memories. This new Queen won't be chasing down Locutus like the old Queen because she has learn her lesson.

& about how many deaths, We're not sure how many Queens died before encountering the Federation, but those that died by Federation hands are only 2 not 3. :o

She wasn't on the Diamond at the time, she's smarter then that. She just stay in the Unicomplex & sent off the Diamond to engage the Delta Flyer. The only time this new Queen [a female Species 125] dies is at "Endgame" :)

For 1 thing, this show will definitely show the Queen dying if they intended her to die, that's the show's style. If they don't show a death scene of her dying then there’s a higher possibility that she's still alive. That's how this Trek shows work so far. :)

Another reason why this is the same Queen is her same impactuation [word? Spelling?] for 7 of 9. If this is indeed a new Queen after "Dark Frontier" then its more likely she should have abandon that notion because it have failed.

B)

ok, but 1st of all it took around 200 years or less to reach the nearest Borg Vessel.

Which I presume is the same vessel that attacked Guinan's world, & the 2 Outpost at the Neutral Zone & latter met the Ent-D when Q flung them towards that Cube & also attacked at Wolf 359. all the same Cube.

So much problem from 1 Cube just because those scientists woke up those Drones.

2nd yes they can meet each other in the minds "Its a Hive-mind thing", as I said also. I don't understand why some people can't understand this, there's 1 fella I met in his site he kept saying no such thing, even though there are lots of facts saying there is such thing. :blink:

To give further examples of the hive-mind handy work. Dark Frontier & Endgame, where the Queen is freely able to contact 7 when she's regenerating.

:blink:

:lol:

Actually, I don't remember them doing this.  It does stand to reason that they could however.

I think he ment the Scimitar.

Actually the Scimitar is Reman design, not Romulan.

Mines, ST: First Contact

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That's my whole point, they didn't made those things for these new situations, but since the new situations are added, we have to try & fit in with the old ones to make it look nice.

All the pinions here are to see how things all fit.

The entire story is about 1 single universe's story, about how it all came to be, etc.

so no matter what happens no matter how extraordinary or altering, its still the same universe.

Q was refering to humans about the linear thing too. check in "All Good Things" again

about the Transwarp, its in 1 of the old movies where Scotty participate at the research, but it failed. they not ready for such high tech.

PS: things said in shows can't be taken literally, Sometimes they say they first to this or that, then later another part says someone else did this or that, we have to stick with latest facts not the past. If we stick with the past then lots of things that were wrong, stays wrong.

Like about the "Galactic Barrier" theres no such thing, so that idea is cut of in future series of TOS.

future can happen before past. Its shown many times in Trek, especially Voyager "Parallax" is the best example.

anyway there’s so many signs as to why ST:FC must happen.

1. Q said humans are advancing too fast then should, in other words in this story reality Coachrane was not suppose to make first Contact, but thanks to future intervention Coachrane's ship didn't blow up or just drift away in space but instead they made the contact they should not have yet.

2. Q also said time is not linear. Later in the 29th & 31st century humans come to realize that too.

3. Borg came to the Alpha Quadrant too early in TNG "Neutral Zone" the Borg already reach to a human outpost, assimilated it & go away because they realized Species 5618 is nothing special. Until "Q Who?" with Q's snapping the Borg are intrigued as to how a low species like us are able to travel 7000 lightyears in a second hence their interest on us is back again & the Queen decided to have an equal from 1 of us. "Picard" But of course that time she didn't know it was Q who did the 7000 light-year jump.

4. 7 of 9 already knows that the Borg attended in human's First Contact.

5. 7's parents heard about the future cyborg through Coachrane's speech like Archer did & decided to explore this rumors, they then learn their name by 1 of the El-Eurians "Guinan's people" went to find a Cube found 1 follow to the Delta Quadrant & got assimilated later.

6. The discovery of the Borg Transwarp Coil, though temporarily before the Borg took it away, comes to TOS's experiment with Transwarp at whatever movie that is.

Phew, the signs are out there, it just needs some rationalizing.

Just typing through, :)

1.

Where did they go, since they went below the bottom deck?

It may be the bottom deck, but not the bottom hull. meaning theres still space for him to fall.

2.

now correct me if im wrong but dont they count downward usually.

It could be how the TOS works, :)

3.

I know that this could be more less explained but in Generations Picard says that Data's emotion chip had been fused into his nueral net, but in Insurrection Geordi says that Data didn't take his chip with him to study the Baku.

its been 4 years later, its not permanently fused, just for the moment & they don't have the time to unfuse it at the moment.

4.

When Picard arrives there Guinan tells him he can do anything he wants, which includes traveling back in time. Why then does he seem so worried about not being able to save that planet? He could travel back in time as many times as he likes, until he can prevent it..

He's only human & thinking rushingly. too bad. He's not as lucky as us sitting safely thinking things through for them.

Another thing that is quite odd, in the nexus you can have and do whatever you want, shouldn't Soran be able to prevent the timetravel? Not that it is possible to have a place where everyone can have what they want..

Actually the thing about this, lets say everyone got what they want , Picard save the lives of millions & Soran got to stay in the Nexus. remember even if Picard stop Soran's past self from entering it, it doesn't stop the fact that he's already inside the Nexus "being uneffected by time he's still in there fully 'happy' & out there fully too 'dead'", so everyones happy.

[Actually, the Borg never got a message from the 22nd century until ST:FC alterred the timeline.

Actually they did receive the message, its a temporal loop thing

how something happens even though not taken action yet. Which also explains why humans are designated Species 5618, such a low number. So meaning that we are found around that time, 2152 where the Drones awaken & assimilated some human scientists, & sent the message to the collective to inform them about us, but ofcourse the message will be a bit blurr corrupted, whatever the right word is.

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Dunno if this means anything, since theres so many posts left unread. lol

1. Chang created the 1 & only prototype of such ship & brought that info to his grave.

2. The Scimitar's Theleron Generator solves the power requirement.

3. The Scimitar's weapons have drop cloak before firing at those spots.

4. Its Reman tech. not Romulan, well not fully anyway. & yes its the 24th century, they could have found out a way.

With the Enterprise-E, I just had to wonder how the updated NCC-1701-D would factor into the future. It does bring up several questions

 

Why wasn't the ship destroyed in the first place?

Why didn't the ship de-commisioned?

..and just for the heck of it, what was with warp 13?

 

Just looking for your input.

1. its a possible reality. Since the crew split up earlier then expected because of conflicts & Troi's death. Picard retire earlier & no one went to the star system where Soran did his handy work, so the Galaxy class is alive.

Then the sisters rule the Klingon Empire & wage another war or sort in that other universe. etc.etc.

2. Warp 13, after Voyager's return they surely are able to make such things with many new type of engine specs. Remember Warp 13 is just a name, who knows what its really is. It could be that after passing the warp 10 barrier they have achieve faster then warp 9.9975. It could even be Transwarp itself.

3. Decomisioned, that's because Riker kept the ship for himself as Admiral he said that in the episode.

I just post this up for fun, its an old theory of mine concerning realities.

Here's what I wrote on "time paradoxes", not sure if its same topic or not.

"Time"

People always ask this very question.

Harry: "Wait a second, If I send a message from the future & change the past, then that future may no longer exist, right. So how could I send the message in the first place?"

In order to answer this, we need the "multi universe" theory's help. Where

[with every choice made the universe is separated to unlimited of different universes based on the choices made & proceeds on with its own course of time.]

Example

We'll be focusing on Voyager "Timeless" as its the best example.

PS: Please ignore the dots (`), its to keep far apart words stay apart.

```````````````````````````Year 2390

``````````````````````(15 years after Harry`````[Geordi Laforge

``````````````````````& Chakotay got back)`````````a Captain]

````````````````````````````````\/`````````````````````\/

Alternate reality >_____________________________________________

````````````````````````````````/

```````````````````````````````/

They both have`````````````````/```````````````````They both have

Same History``````````````````/```````````````````different Future

````````````````````````````/

```````````````````````````/

Normal Reality....>_____________________________________________

``````````````````````````/\````````````````````````````/\

```````````````````````Year 2375``````````````Year 2378 "Endgame"

```````````````(Voyager attempted Quantum

````````````````````Slipstream Drive)

As you can see, this 2 lines represent 2 different Timelines intersecting with one another in a certain time [2390 & 2375]

My theory is, when a timeline has been changed, the previous Universe hasn't been destroyed. It is still there thriving. So Laforge's fear was unjustified, he could just let Chakotay, Harry Kim & the Girl to do their business & they will all still be alive & living in that timeline they knew after Voyager's crash.

While another Reality where Voyager hasn't crashed but exited the slipstream just in time is created to live long & prosper.

But theres a catch to altering the timeline, a very big catch, which the cost is the alterer's life in this case "Harry Kim, The Doc, Chakotay & his Girlfriend.

The reason for their life to end is to prevent themselves from realtering their own plans. Meaning,

Say Geordi let them live & do what they want, & Harry succeeded in saving Voyager. But they will not realize it, because their reality will still remain & they'd think they have failed & try again, & by doing so they could be creating more different universes still trying to save Voyager that they already have.

That is why the alterer must die, to prevent themselves from undermining their own actions. & with the other reality in existence, that is how the event keeps repeating it self to save Voyager, Harry's other reality self is what is saving Voyager again & again & again & ...

So for those who wants to alter the timeline, they would have to be prepared to die as well.

"Yesterday's Enterprise"

In this episode, this have proven the continuous existence of another reality when the altered one lives on with their lives, at the ending they saw the a ship (The Enterprise-C) appeared & disappeared, showing that they saw a glimpse of another reality to create the reality they know of & live in.

"Time & Again"

Here have 3 timelines in question,

The 1st one is where a Voyager help destroyed the world

The 2nd the one that a Voyager found the destroyed world & entered to their past & stopped the disaster

The 3rd one is where a Voyager came & saw no destruction that Kes felt.

"Future's End"

Here have 3 timelines too

1st the one where Captain Braxton sees the destruction of the future by Voyager's interference

2nd is the one Braxton tries to destroy Voyager - got suck to the past with Voyager - He explains the situation to Janeway & Chakotay - with the warning they prevent the incident that was suppose to happen

3rd is where things got back to normal the way we know it as normal where another Braxton came to put Voyager back to its normal time 2373 the 21st century businessman died.

"Before and After"

2 timelines only

1st Kes's future as being married to Tom

2nd After Kes stops jumping backwards or forwards & creates a new timeline where she will leave Voyager on "The Gift"

Maybe because of this is what triggered Kes abilities to resurface faster then it should, that's why here she left in The Gift while in the other reality she's still on Voyager.

"Year of Hell"

Who knows how many timelines are there here, but there are 3 Voyagers

1st they came & confronted a tiny ship threatening them

2nd time changed & the tiny ship becomes a battleship

3rd after taking their temporal shields off, Janeway destroyed the Time weapon & died while creating a new reality where Voyagers ok, The Krenim scientist & his wife are alive together.

"Timeless"

As shown & explained in the above. 2 timelines

1st Voyager crash & Chakotay & Kim tried to change the timeline with the older Harry Kim & Chakotay dead

2nd Voyager didn't crash & the young Harry Kim got message from another reality Harry Kim 15 years older.

"Endgame"

2 timelines

Similar to "Timeless"

1st Voyager took 30 something years or less to get home

2nd Voyager took 7 Years to get home with Admiral Janeway dead

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My opinion is that she was safe in the Unicomplex fiddling with Locutus's mind, later when the Feds trick them to regenerate the Queen was aware something is wrong, & realised the trick so she innitiated the self-destrut to prevent any tech. stealing.

Later as she's propably already on her way to earth to meet Locutus in person & see how goes the assimilation personally she had a change of plans since the 1st Cube failed so she plan to do it herself since she's already on the way, but the Cube is destroyed, then a new plan came to mind.

A plan that have something to do with the Drone's message to the collective in "Enterprise" she knows she has to do something to complete the "temporal loop" as Borg, they play their part fairly as to knowing they went to the past once, she'd have to do it again to complete the loop. "Its a long story of an explaination"

then came to ST:FC, etc etc.

Not quite, to me what she ment is, she wasn't there at all.

Not physically anyway. She's only there with Locutus, mentally. While she's safe at her Unicomplex.

After the Cube got destroyed by a trick, she then sets off to earth in a Cube to head to earth later, which took some time to reach there, 6 years or less.

that's what she ment by 3D terms, Picard thought she's there physically "3D" but she's not, so she's dissapointed on how small Picard's thinking have become.

I'm just glad to see each series are being connected in some way.

not everything is shown on screen in detail, theres lots of reasons for their survival

1. a Sphere escaping or sent off earlier.

2. Survivors, few Drones may have survived in the grave & escaped with any means possible.

That's all I can think so far.

lol, that was my idea for a Voyager movie at the Star Trek site, never thought someone else would mentione4d it too.