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I skipped voting here, because I do not view these women as "babes." I view them as competant officers who contibuted to the overall efficiency of their respective crews.

 

Of course, none of them was unattractive....I must acknowledge that.

Boring!

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C'mon.....don't be so PC!You're among friends here!

Admiralpeewee,

I do regard myself as being among friends here. I consider myself to be in the Star Trek universe here.

I am not being politically correct. I am expressing my true opinion, which is not hard to understand, since I am a professional female. I do not see the women of Star Trek as "babes." I see them as me, and ignore the tight outfits. I meant what I said sincerely. I see them as valuable contributing members of the crew.

We all like Star Trek for different reasons. One of the reasons I like it, and liked it from the beginning, is that it included me in the future, as a contributing member of society, and not just fluff, and not just the housekeeper or the cook.

If this thread was meant to be just a thread "for the guys" then it should have been explicitly stated at the top of the thread, and I would have read it, and not made comments. If this was implied to be a thread for guys, I missed it, and often do miss subtlties.

Encounter at Farpoint, when it first aired. I had been waiting for so long for a new Trek series.......

If you made it switch between scenes which focus on each of series, like your pictures do whenever you post, then it would be alright. It is neat though. The wormhole looks like it is about to swallow up DS9. It really catches the eye, and makes you look.

I have three younger brothers, and had one older sister. I was born on my sister's first birthday, and she used to introduce me as her first birthday present. :lol: She died in December 1993 after a painful illness and is still missed. :lol:

The age range from the oldest to the youngest was six and a half years, so my parents were tired! They confessed after we were all grown to the following trick. They would close all the curtains in the house, say it was bedtime,and put us all to bed! :( I have memories of lying in bed, not sleepy at all!

Once, when my sister and I were both in post graduate programs (living in the same town but not together if I recollect correctly), my brothers came up to get us to drive us home for Labor Day. My oldest brother was on leave from the Marines, and he was doing the driving. Of course, I was ready when they arrived, but my sister was not, which was par for the course. So everyone had to wait. In sitting around, talking and laughing , and having a good time, someone suddenly observed, " Hey, we all like each other!" Now we fought and squabbled just as much as any group of siblings growing up too close in age in a small house (three bedrooms until my father finished the basement). Somewhere , in the process of growing up and moving out, and "absence making the heart grow fonder," and being exposed to the rest of the world, we had come to value the familiarity and comfort of being with those we knew well, and were well known by.

Nevertheless, we thought and thought, trying to figure out what " the parents " ( what we called them rather than " our parents" ---my sister started that) had done to manipulate us into actually coming to the point of mutual love and respect. We thought of lots of things. However, we never turned back to the "sibling rivalry days," and remain close to this day.

I like the look of the spotted trill on DS9. I am glad they made the change from the look in TNG. It does not bother me that tptb made a change.

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I skipped voting here, because I do not view these women as "babes." I view them as competant officers who contibuted to the overall efficiency of their respective crews.

Of course, none of them was unattractive....I must acknowledge that.

I agree that the hologram should be programed with the "knowledge" that it was a hologram.

Hopefully the programming would be as sophisticated enough so that, like VOY's doctor, the hologram can develop sentience. Just being programmed to know its function, and "know" it's a hologram does not mean it is truly self -aware.

I remember the drive-in! We used to have them in Indiana! Different drive-ins had different lures to get families to choose them. One had a merry-go-round, and another had ponies! We children would always try to get our parents to go to one of those (who cared about the movie!)...and then we would try to get them to go early enough so that we could ride the ponies or ride the merry-go-round, and were those lines long! Ususally we made it through the first feature. But the parents pretty much had the second feature to themselves. Drive-in popcorn was the best!

I never saw any Star Trek movies there, however. I think they had pretty much gone out of business by the time the Star Trek movies were released.

I love Gene Rodenberry, but I feel Rod Serling was a genius, and was the better producer.

I agree with Mrskirk...it's much ado about nothing. If it is there I will use it...if not, I am not going to miss it. It is fun, though. So is the borg smilie!

I visit startrek.com, but no longer everyday, and I only read the message boards... I never joined there. I do not dare post there. There are too many personal attacks...people seem to hate other people, and start threads denouncing one another. I have seen a lot of racist posts there. But there have also been many interesting discussions there. And there is a lot of other Star Trek information on the site.

I visited another star trek website, but I do not remember what it was called. It was a fan initiated site, but it seemed focused on the perspective that Brannon and Braga had destroyed Star Trek, and they were organizing or something. That seemed a little too negative.

I joined this site in July 2003 and just read posts for the longest time before I dared to post anything. Then I started posting, and I have not stopped. I also come here every day. I cannot tell who does not like whom. I only am learning who holds what opinions, but there does not seem to be a lot of hostility. The most emotion I have read so far was in the thread bysty started about war, but everyone is still civil, and apparently they are all still friends.

This site feels like the Star Trek universe to me. And I am glad it is moderated!

Well, mostly I see the movies much later when they come out on video or are on network TV.

I cannot remember for sure, but I think I only saw the first two at the theater. I am almost certain that my sister and I were so mad when Spock died in TWOK that we did not go see the next one. I have seen them all now, except Nemesis, which I expect to rent soon.

Our experience at the theater seeing the ST: TMP was bittersweet. We were there with a huge crowd of Star Trek fans waiting to get into the theater. There were all kinds of people--it looked like the Star Trek universe; different types of people getting along, working together. It was packed--we were glad to get in, and took side by side seats, one on the aisle, as close to the front as we could get ( we were in about the middle of the theater). There we sat, waiting for everyone else to be seated and the show to begin, when one of the two white guys in front of us said to his companion, " Did you know that Leonard Nimoy was a Jew?" His tone of voice was one of disdain.

My sister and I were stunned, and our illusion that all Star Trek fans were like the Star Trek universe was immediately shattered.

However, the movie began shortly afterward, and the joy of new Star Trek for two TOS fans who had watched the original series on the air and had watched years of those reruns, transcended the shock of thoughtless racist remarks. But it never erased the memory of it, and kept me from foolishly thinking that Star Trek had actually reached all its fans. Some were impacted, others were not. My sister and I sat behind people who were not. But I loved the movie. And I still love the hopeful, inclusive future Star Trek portrayed then, and continues to portray.

(And as widely divergent as our views and perspectives are, I find STARTREFANS.NET very "Star Trek - like".)

Joe Louis, for what he meant to people in his time.

Technically speaking I would have to say fan, because I do not believe I have seen all of the episodes of DS9 (don't tell Worf or Sisko ). The only reason I have seen all of Voyager is because of reruns.

But I have been a fan since TOS aired, and I do like all of the series, and most of the movies.

I like the episode where he is caught in a loop, reliving the decision he made between saving Ensign Kim's life and the life of another officer. After that I like Someone to Watch Over Me.

The Borg Queen...and they never seem to quite get rid of her. Picard thought she had been destroyed earlier, until he met up with her again in First Contact. They destroyed her in First Contact, and there she is again being destroyed by Janeyway in Endgame. As long as the Borg exist, the Queen exists.

I voted Riddles. I agree with the others who selected Riddles that it was interesting to see the Vulcan without his logic, and explore what was underneath. I also liked Tuvok in Ex Post Facto, although he was not the center of that episode, and was at the height of his "vulcaness.".

There was an episode where they used another race's subspace corridors briefly, but in the end the races fighting over the subspace corridors proved hostile, and Voyager had to continue on in normal space.

It was not my favorite episode either. How could they "evolve" into what looked like a lower life form? Were those creatures even sentient? Did Janeway and Paris remember anything? The whole plot was not thought out.

I agree that it was very irrational and wrong for Torres to do what she did.  I'm glad that she didn't accomplish her goal.  But I can feel sympathy for her, all the same.  I agree, she was being oversensitive, but this was an important subject to her.  A very sensitive subject.  I know how it feels to be different, to not fit in, and it is that sensitive a subject.  It can really make people feel terrible.  She just didn't want her daughter to feel what she felt and to go through what she went through.  I'm not saying that's a justification, not at all.  I can just see why she would try to do it.

 

Some of it was also about the life that she didn't have.  She was going to try to live that life through her daughter, which was entirely selfish and wrong.  She wanted her daughter to be what she couldn't be; an "ordinary" girl.

 

Torres was very confused.  It's a good thing she had Paris around to help her come to her senses.

 

As for not punishing her, I think Janeway understood what Torres was going through.  She understood her intentions.  She knows Torres too well, and knows that it's not something she would repeat.

 

I think this episode was about what society is coming up with today.  I've heard of these "build-your-own-babies" and you can make it so your baby has blue eyes and brown hair and good brains and an athletic body.  I don't know if that's possible right now, but I've read about theories.  I just think it's wrong.  And I think this episode might have been trying to address that issue.

I agree completely with what was said here. I think people even select mates in hopes a guarentee that their baby have certain attributes. This episode, and the idea of "designer babies," is carrying that inclination to the extreme, but is understandable. I do not agree with it though.

Ex Post Facto. I like Tuvok in this episode, and it was an intersesting idea for punishment for crime...making someone re-live their crime over and over and over again. An effective deterrent to crime in that society, I'll bet.

I loved Captain Kirk in TOS! I'd love to see William Shatner guest star on Enterprise, as an ancester of his! :lol:

I think these questions are rightfully visited in retrospect, and that we, as moral people, cannot avoid facing the fact that innocent people suffered horribly based on a "practical" military decision. I think it is different dealing with the consequences of things like radiation contamination that affect unborn generations, than it is comparing mere numbers of dead, and observing that equal or more numbers of dead were killed here or there, when the long term consequences are not comparable. I appreciate the comments of deagletime giving first hand information on immediate and long term suffering.

It is also important to talk about this, in order to help understand that to avoid being found in a position where we have to consider using even worse nuclear weapons, that we have to do the kinds of things we are trying to do now to deal with aggressive terrorism, rather than allow a relentless aggressive enemy to back us into a corner, forcing the use of worse weapons, with even worse consequences. Thinking about Hiroshima helps us to know what we want to avoid, and helps us to face what we must do now in order to minimize the possibility of such a decision being made again in the future.