Madame Butterfly

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  1. Well I strongly believe that Atlantis won't be found under a polar cap.


    There is a reason why the Atlantic ocean received it's name.


    Out of all of Plato's stories, all of them have been proven to be sound and accurate, except for Atlantis. It's the only remaining one, and why no one can believe it is possibly true is beyond me, when all of his other 'questioned" stories were proven as fact over time.


    The last book I read on Atlantis was by Andrew Collins, "The Gateway to Atlantis".

    It's written more like a disertation than a book for anyone to just pick up and read, but it does enlighten the reader to many ancient stories, and he meticulously shows how he comes to his summation as to what is the western gateway to Atlantis.


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    Collins quest for Atlantis begins with a trail of clues left by Plato, and his journey takes him far beyond Crete and the Mediterranean, where scholars in recent times have placed the island kingdom. Collins finds signposts amongst the mummies in Egypt, in the wreakage of Roman vessals off the coasts of South and Central America, and in the African features of great stone heads in Mexico. His final destination has roused controversy among the experts, but he may indeed have found the land that history lost.


    You may also enjoy Graham Hancock's "Fingerprints of the Gods"

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    On 6th July 1960 Lt Colonel Harold Ohlmeyer, a United States Airforce Commander, sent a reply to a letter from one Professor Charles Hapgood who had requested his opinion on a feature found on a map of 1513 AD called the Piri Reis Map. Lt Colonel Ohlmeyer's reply was a bombshell. The map, showing the coastline of the east coast of the Americas and the west coast of Africa, the Colonel remarked, also seemed to show the coastline of Queen Maud Land in Antarctica free of ice - a condition it had not been in for some 9000 years!


    In fact, it is only in recent times that modern man has been able to map this coastline using sub-surface surveying techniques that can penetrate the ice sheet that lies on top of it.


    Ohlmeyer had no idea how a map existing in the 16th century could have got hold of such knowledge.


    This was one of the many mysteries that lead Graham to begin his epic journey into man's past that is Fingerprints of the Gods - and it is a mystery whose solution is mindblowing.


    Travelling first to South and Meso-America, Graham finds evidence of myths of a white-skinned 'god' named Quetzalcoatl or 'Viracocha' who came from a drowned land bringing knowledge of farming and culture after a great flood. Tied in with these myths Graham begins to crack an ancient code imprinted in these ancient tales that refer to the 'great mill' of the heavens.


    It is an astronomical code that deals with the position of the stars over vast periods of time - a code that reveals the ancients knew far, far more than they are generally credited with. Traces of the same code appear in Egyptian myth, and it is to this desert land that Graham and Santha travel, finding there haunting parallels in architecture and ritual to the New World sites they have just left behind.


    Moreover, the whole layout of the Giza plateau seems to point to a date many thousands of years earlier than the date of its supposed construction - a date revealed in the astronomical alignments of the Pyramids, the 'mansions of a million years', home of the god Osiris, the bringer of agriculture to the Egyptians, like Quetzalcoatl, after a flood.


    Could the Piri Reis maps be evidence for a previously unknown complex maritime civilisation, capable of mapping the globe? A global culture, cataclysmically destroyed at the end of the ice age, remnants of which survived the devastation to pass on their knowledge to the shaken world?


    Were the figures of Osiris and Quetzalcoatl survivors of this lost race - passing down not only advanced geographical knowledge, but a secret astronomical code veiled in myth that pointed to the devastation in the past, and warned of that which is to come?


    From the mysterious sites of Tiahuanaco and Teotihuacan, to the enduring enigmatic Sphinx and pyramids of Egypt, the grandiose Nazca lines of Peru to the stark primal beauty of the Osireion at Abydos, this is a journey both around the globe and into the heart of the true prehistoric origins of man. Part adventure, part detective story, this book will force you to revaluate your beliefs of the past.

  2. waits for Tina's rant!!!


    wait for it...wait for it.


    i rather see Hugh Jakman be Bond...Also folks the British people on the British Bond boards laugh off all American Bond. No way..i would love to see Clooney as Bond but hey thats me


    Now about the women: Who cares..i go to the movie to drool over Bond not some two bit Hoes


    if they jump in with a man that fast they get whats coming to them




    Well Clooney is very suave and sexy. :dude:


    Well it does bother me that they are hoes. It's help to create this stupid male [not that there are any on this site] ideal that woman are easy to bed and discard.


    Tough is good, but women with respect for themselves King. They aren't going to jump in bed with 007 if they do. Besides, with the way they had him bed hopping though all those decades, his package should about ready to drop off from disease anyway.


    [thinks back to AIDS education class "you sleep with the last 7 people they slept with, and the last 7 people those people slept with, and so on and so on and so on] :hug:

  3. Ewan McGregor.



    [waits for Tina's rant!!! B) :hug: ]


    For me Pierce Brosnan and Sean Connery will always be the best Bonds.


    As far as women in Bond, I hate how they've been objectived over the years. In order to compensate for that, they made them too tough. And I hate the idea that underneath that tough exterior, they just want a man after all. :dude: Give me a break!!!! :hug:


    The women in the future of Bond need to be shown as equals.

  4. Well it's always by degrees of seperation.


    A friend of mine here was talking about going to her sisters place on a tropical island. So I said "what does her husband do that they can afford a home there", and she told me "he does commerical work", so I asked, "would I know him?" and she laughed. She said, "you wouldn't know him, but you know his voice. He does the voice of the Pillsbury Dough Boy". Totally shocked me, :dude::hug:


    My sister in law, as a child, used to get driven to school to and from school by Annette Funicello. She was in the car pool group that her mom was in.


    In the "House of Sand and Fog", one of the actresses is my sister in laws Auntie, and also her best friend [her aunts] whom she [my sister in law has known forever] was a major character in that movie, and The Hotel Rowanda. I've meet them both many times.


    As far as family history relations there are connections to John Wilkes Booth, Robert E Lee, Justin Timberlake, John Smith, and we're this close to connecting the Wright Brothers to the family.

  5. Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?

    By Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News



    Sept. 28, 2005— A supernova blast 41,000 years ago started a deadly chain of events that led to the extinction of mammoths and other animals in North America, according to two scientists.


    If their supernova theory gains acceptance, it could explain why dozens of species on the continent became extinct 13,000 years ago.


    Mammoths and mastodons, both relatives of today's elephants, mysteriously died out then, as did giant ground sloths, a large-horned bison, a huge species of armadillo, saber-toothed cats, and many other animals and plants.


    Richard Firestone, a nuclear scientist at the U.S. Department of Energy's Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, who formulated the theory with geologist Allen West, told Discovery News that a key piece of evidence for the supernova is a set of 34,000-year-old mammoth tusks riddled with tiny craters.



    The researchers believe that in the sequence of events following the supernova, first, the iron-rich grains emitted from the explosion shot into the tusks. Whatever caused the craters had to have been traveling around 6,214 miles per second, and no other natural phenomenon explains the damage, they said.


    They think the supernova exploded 250 light-years away from Earth, which would account for the 7,000-year delay before the tusk grain pelting. It would have taken that long for the supernova materials to have showered to Earth.


    Then, 21,000 years after that event, the researchers believe a comet-like formation from the supernova's debris blew over North America and wreaked havoc.


    Firestone said they think the formation created superheated hurricanal winds in the atmosphere that rolled across North America at 400 kilometers per hour (about 249 mph).


    "The comet (-like event) was followed by a barrage of hot particles. If that didn't kill all of the large animals, then the immediate climate changes must have," said Firestone.


    Firestone said smaller animals could have sought shelter more readily, by going into caves or underground.


    The findings were presented at last weekend's "World of Elephants" international conference in Hot Springs, S.D.


    In addition to the tusk evidence, the scientists said arrowheads from North America's prehistoric Clovis culture, which went extinct around 13,500-13,000 years ago, Icelandic marine sediment, as well as sediment from nine 13,000-year-old sites in North America, contain higher-than-normal amounts of radiation in the form of potassium-40 levels.


    Potassium-40 is a radioactive isotope, meaning a molecule that emits radiation.



    Magnetic particles also were unearthed at the sites. Analysis of these particles revealed they are rich in titanium, iron, manganese, vanadium, rare-earth elements, thorium and uranium.


    These elements all are common in moon rocks and lunar meteorites, so the researchers think the materials provide additional evidence that North America was bombarded 13,000 years ago by material originating from space.


    Luann Becker, a University of California at Santa Barbara geologist, told Discovery News she was not surprised by the new supernova theory, since extinction events have been linked to similar comet or asteroid impacts before.


    "What is exciting about Dr. Firestone's theory is that it can be easily tested," Becker said, and indicated she hopes future research will yield additional clues from North American and other sediment layers

  6. Giant Squid Caught on Film

    By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News





    Sept. 28, 2005 — Japanese scientists have caught on camera a living giant squid, showing for the first time one of the most mysterious creatures of the deep sea in its natural habitat.


    The size of a bus, with eyes as big as dinner plates and a tangle of tentacles covered with suckers, the giant squid (Architeuthis dux) has nourished legends and attracted human fascination since the ancient Greeks.


    The real thing, a purplish-red cephalopod measuring roughly 25 feet, was photographed 2,950 feet beneath the North Pacific by cameras attached to a baited fishing line.


    More than 500 images show the squid wrapping its giant tentacles around the bait, Tsunemi Kubodera of the National Science Museum and Kyoichi Mori of the Ogasawara Whale Watching Association, both in Tokyo, reported on Wednesday in the journal Proceedings B of the Royal Society.









    On the Attack




    The breakthrough ends an age-old search for the elusive creature and shows for the first time the movements, behavior and natural habitat of the enormous tentacled animal.


    Until now, the only information about Architeuthis had been based on dead specimens found either washed ashore or entangled in trawler nets.


    The researchers first tracked sperm whales, regular hunters of giant squid, and discovered that the mammals gathered off Japan's Ogasawara Islands, diving to depths of about 3,250 feet, where giant squid are thought to live.


    Once they found a likely spot, they dropped a line with a camera, light and data logger on two jigs baited with common squids and freshly ground shrimps as an odor lure. Pictures were taken every 30 seconds.


    At 9:15 a.m. on Sept. 30 last year, a 25 foot squid approached the bait.


    "The initial attack was captured on camera and shows the two long tentacles wrapped in a ball around the bait. ... The giant squid became snagged on the jig," Kubodera and Mori wrote.


    According to the researchers, the squid's most dramatic characteristic was "the pair of extremely long tentacles, distinct from the eight shorter arms."


    After struggling for four hours to free itself from the hooks used to carry the bait, the squid broke away, leaving behind an 18-foot piece of tentacle.


    The tentacle was still functioning once on the surface, with "the large suckers of the tentacle club repeatedly gripping the boat deck and any offered fingers," the researchers said.


    DNA tests from the severed tentacle matched fragments taken from the remains of other giant squid found around Japan.


    The photographs also show how giant squid move and approach their prey, attacking head on, horizontally rather than from above or below.


    "Architeuthis appeared to be a much more active predator than previously suspected, using its elongated feeding tentacles to strike and tangle prey. It appears that the tentacles coil into an irregular ball in much the same way that pythons rapidly envelop their prey," the researchers wrote.


    According to squid expert Martin Collins, of the British Antarctic Survey based in Cambridge, England, the pictures finally settle a long debate among researchers.


    "There had previously been two schools of thought, one which considered giant squid to be sluggish inactive animals and the other, which considered them to be active predators. This exciting discovery confirms that they are active animals," Collins told Discovery News.


    Leading authority on giant squids Steve O'Shea, at Auckland University of Technology, New Zealand, cautioned against drawing conclusions about the Architeuthis' behavior.


    "I've been spending years studying giant squids and I still believe they are not so very active and aggressive. But there is still a lot to find out.


    "Thanks to Kubodera and Mori we will be able to study this animal as never before. It is fantastic that someone has succeed in capturing it on a camera at last," O'Shea told Discovery News.

  7. Scientists pinpoint mystery Maya city in Guatemala

    Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:22 AM BST

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    By Eduardo Garcia


    GUATEMALA CITY (Reuters) - A Mayan city whose fabulous art has beguiled collectors for decades but whose true location was until now a mystery has been pinpointed in the jungles of northern Guatemala, scientists said on Tuesday.


    'Site Q' has been a Holy Grail of archaeology ever since an exquisite set of Mayan artworks from the period A.D. 600 to 900 showed up in U.S. and European museums and galleries in the 1970s.


    Now researchers have found a sculpture at ruins long known as La Corona in Guatemala that matches the mysterious gallery pieces, said Salvador Lopez, Guatemala's head of historical monuments.


    International researchers had increasingly speculated that La Corona was Site Q, and the recent find leaves no doubt, Lopez said.


    "The panel confirms that this is Site Q," he told Reuters.


    Many of the carved stone sculptures that began appearing three decades ago bear a strange snake-head glyph. They had so much in common that experts soon speculated that they had all been looted from one Mayan city.


    But in recent years some archaeologists had begun to suggest that Site Q was a myth and that the snake-headed carvings had really come from a number of different sites in the region.


    Lopez said the newly found panel sculpture suggested that La Corona had been founded by leaders from Mexico's giant Maya kingdom Calakmul to help the empire in its epic wars with the Guatemala's Tikal, the Mayan world's second empire.


    "It narrates the history of the two powers, Tikal and Calakmul," he said.


    La Corona lies within the boundaries of the Laguna del Tigre national park, a dangerous part of Guatemala where scientists work alongside drug traffickers, clandestine loggers and illegal ranchers.


    The site is being excavated by an international team of experts from Yale University, the National Geographic Society, among others.

  8. Ants Murder Competing Trees

    By Rossella Lorenzi, Discovery News



    Sept. 23, 2005 — American researchers have solved the mystery of the "devil's gardens," enigmatic tracts of vegetation in the Peruvian Amazonian rainforest that consist of a singles species of tree.


    According to local legend, the eerie stands of Duroia hirsuta trees, which thrive in the otherwise diverse tropical rainforest, are cultivated by an evil spirit.


    But it's an industrious variety of gardener ant, not the devil, that creates these mysterious landscape gardens.


    Megan Elizabeth Frederickson of Stanford University and colleagues reported in the current issue of Nature that Myrmelachista schumanni ants, which nest in the hollow stems of D. hirsuta trees, poison with formic acid all plants that spring up around their home trees.



    "Ants can have dramatic and long-lasting impacts on their environment. The largest devil's garden that I studied measures 1,300 square meters in size and is an estimated 800 years old. Yet the garden is created by tiny ants, measuring only a few millimeters long,†Frederickson told Discovery News.


    The researchers located 10 devil's gardens, ranging in size from one to 328 D. hirsuta plants, at the Madre Selva Biological Station in the Amazonian rainforest of Loreto, Peru.


    Then they planted two saplings of a common Amazonian cedar tree (Cedrela odorata) inside each garden near the base of an ant-infested D. hirsuta tree.


    A sticky insect barrier was applied to one cedar sapling to prevent ants reaching it, while the other sapling was left untreated.


    Worker ants immediately attacked the untreated samplings by injecting formic acid from their poison glands into the leaves, which began to to die within 24 hours.


    "Most of the leaves on these saplings were lost within five days," wrote the researchers.


    But cedars treated with the insect barrier thrived.


    The results rule out one of the main theories of devil's gardens formation, known as allelopathy. Under this process, trees release toxic secretions that kill competing plants.


    Named for formica, the Latin word for ant, formic acid is a toxin used by many ant species to defend themselves against insect attack. But this is the first time that ants have been found to use it as an herbicide, said the researchers.


    They estimated that a typical garden is tended by a single ant colony, comprising as many as three million workers and 15,000 queens. The presence of multiple queens contributes to colony longevity.


    "By killing plants of other species, the ant promotes the growth and establishment of D. hirsuta, thereby gaining more nest sites," Frederickson and colleagues wrote.


    It is unclear how an ant can tell whether a plant is the same species as its host or a different one. Her current working hypothesis is that ants recognize their D. hirsuta home trees through species-specific chemical cues.


    "This is an excellent study. It is a fantastic example of how complex biotic interactions can play the primary role in these small ant-created, species-poor communities within the hyper-diverse Amazonian rainforest," Paul Fine, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, told Discovery News.

  9. Noise May Reveal Alien World Interiors

    By Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News



    Sept. 26, 2005— Just days after NASA announced its intention to put people back on the moon by 2018, some seismologists have announced a new discovery made with Apollo-era data that could dictate what equipment to take on that trip, and beyond.


    A re-examination of lunar seismic data brought back by Apollo astronauts in the 1970s has proven that a newly developed method that uses seismic static (as opposed to distinct loud quakes) to see buried geological structures inside the Earth works off-world as well.


    For decades earthquakes have served like floodlights into the Earth's interior, with different geological structures being revealed by how they predictably reflect, scatter, speed-up or slow down powerful earthquake vibrations passing through the planet, all of it collected by seismic stations worldwide.



    Earlier this year, however, seismologists showed that much shorter frequency seismic "noise" collected by the same seismographs can also be used to illuminate structures inside the planet.


    Seismic noise is thought to be caused by things like ocean waves and gurgling geysers.


    Now it looks like seismic noise may be the key to discovering the geological anatomies — and therefore the origins and histories — of worlds thought to have few or no significant earthquakes.


    Those worlds include the Moon, Mars, Mercury and perhaps some of the moons of Saturn and Jupiter.


    "It's very exciting," said seismologist Michael Ritzwoller of the University of Colorado.


    Ritzwoller recently used seismic noise to reveal structures under California, establishing the validity of the technique for studying the Earth's crust.


    "It's just now being used for the first time on the Earth and now being applied to a celestial object," he said.


    The big question on the moon, said Ritzwoller, was whether there is even enough ambient seismic noise to echo off internal structures and make a sort of lunar "ultrasound" picture.


    After all, unlike Earth, there are no oceans, winds or other processes rubbing up against the moon's surface to make seismic noise.


    That question had a surprising answer, according to the new findings of Eric Larose of Laboratoire de Geophysique Interne et Tectonophysique, in Grenoble, France, and his colleagues.


    The moon does indeed have seismic noise, but they found it's created by the heating and cooling, expanding and contracting of the moon's surface as it goes from 230° Fahrenheit (110° Celsius) in the lunar day to -274°F (-170°C) over a 29 1/2 day lunar rotation.


    Their report on the new analysis of Apollo 17 data appears in the current issue of Geophysical Research Letters.


    What's more, that lunar seismic noise does reflect off buried geological features on the moon.



    "The answer is YES," said Larose. "We can see waves reflected by interfaces and buried scatterers."


    They also used the rise and fall in seismic noise to reconstruct the cycle of lunar days when the seismic network was in place.


    In fact, said Ritzwoller, Larose and his team probably could have seen even deeper into the moon had the Apollo seismograph stations been able to record a broader array of vibration frequencies, as do more modern "broadband" seismographs.


    But those limitations, and the test on the moon, make it clearer how to go about future explorations of the moon's interior, as well as the interior of Mars and perhaps some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.


    "We now think of designing an array that could be transported to Mars and deployed there," said Larose.

  10. Very interestomg, MB.  I would love to travel to such areas and see such sites in person.  I have traveled overseas only a bit, but have tried to see sites such as Newgrange in Ireland, Stonehenge and Avebury in England and Roman ruins in Trier, Germany in addition to more recent historical sites.  I would love to see more.


    I must add that I find your articles fascinating, even when I don't add posts to them.  You often post things I either don't see in the newspaper or that I read in the newspaper much later after you post them here.  I assume that you are on interest lists that feed you certain articles.


    I'm curious:  what sites have you personally visited?




    No lists, I do belong to some archaeological sites, and read many science web sites.


    Most of the sites I have visited are on the North American continent.


    I was interested in your comment on Avebury, I think I posted a theory on this site where the author believes that Avebury may show polar cap shifting in the past.


    What was your impression when you were there?