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asthetically pleasing

 

 

Alright SPOCK So in lamen terms you find thier Physical Appearance pleasing, also known as sexy

That's not the same thing. If I think my cat, a female, looks pretty or that the graphics on a DVD looks cool, does that mean they're sexy? Um, no. Thus, one's physical appearance being pleasing does not translate to being sexy. One must either be sexually arroused or having some form of sexually related thoughts in order to think one sexy.

Stardate:213704.3

 

 

 

Whatever im done arguing with you on the subject.I burned ya good so im going out on a high note :force:

You didn't burn anyone, you just have no idea what you're talking about. :)

I don't agree with you CJLP but that shouldn't surprise you..!..One doesn't have to be sexually aroused or have sex thoughts in order to consider someone sexy...Your term 'Aesthetically Pleasing' is just another way of saying that you find that person Attractive and Sexy....Doesn't mean that you want to have sex with that person..It just means that they are good looking and attractive and Sexy..

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Wrong, "asthetically pleasing" means that you like the physical appearance of a person or thing. It does not have to mean attraction, all though it can. Currently, I find no one attractive, but that doesn't mean I can't call females pretty or asthetically pleasing. You're just too close minded to accept that a man doesn't find women attractive at a stage of his life. That doesn't make him gay, that just means he has more important things to focus on.

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Wrong, "asthetically pleasing" means that you like the physical appearance of a person or thing.  It does not have to mean attraction, all though it can.  Currently, I find no one attractive, but that doesn't mean I can't call females pretty or asthetically pleasing.  You're just too close minded to accept that a man doesn't find women attractive at a stage of his life.  That doesn't make him gay, that just means he has more important things to focus on.

You forgot one thing CJLP...You should have said...IN MY OPINION....

Edited by spacetigger

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I'm all done with this thread..Let me say one more comment..CJLP starteed this thread and he named it 'Nudity on Ent'..This topic is absurd..I again say there has never been any Nudity on Enterprise..Period..End of discussion...

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May it please all parties to the foregoing discussion that the following conclusions have been reached. The discussion began regarding the physical appearance of cast members in a weekly television series entitled Enterprise. Please note, some discussion has on prior events been given whether said series Enterprise should in actuality be referred to as Star Trek Enterprise. Said discussion has hence proven to be inconclusive so said series will continue to be referred to as Enterprise, (ENT). The evidence presented were visual observations of the cast member performances during their regular roles on the ENT series.

 

The objection was raised regarding appearance of certain cast members. The objection primarily concerned the level of clothing worn by said cast members. The reason for this objection quickly became lost in a technical discussion of what does or does not constitute "nudity."

 

The American Heritage Dictionary defines nudity as the state of being unclothed. However, the writer recognizes this definition leaves room for confusion as it does not state explicity that nudity refers to the state of being completely unclothed. Indeed, many members of the discussion team engaged in debate that nudity only concerned the absence of clothing from certain areas of the human body and that other unclothed areas did not constitute nudity. These arguments appeared to be based on individual assessment rather than any clear definition of the term.

 

The discussion then included discussion of whether uncovered body parts had any effect on sexual thoughts or attraction. The discussion further degraded into a discussion of the meaning of attraction - the primary argument was maintained that attraction had no connection to the term sexy. The writer acknowledges that the term attractive can have non-sexual connotation as in an "attractive job offer" however, even in that context the word means compelling or desirable.

 

It becomes apparent from the foregoing discussion that only one conclusion can be made from the evidence presented: Connor Trinner looks mighty fine without a shirt.* All other discussion has proven inconclusive.

 

*Please note this opinion represents only the views of the writer of this post and does not intend to assert in any manner offensive to others of differing opinion that this is offered as a scientific conclusion.

Edited by TheUnicornHunter

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Connor without a shirt gives definition to the phrase, "scrumptious little masculine num num treat." :) :force: That's why I can't bring myself to berate Jolene for being topless when I'm too busy drooling into my socks over Connor.

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Wrong, "asthetically pleasing" means that you like the physical appearance of a person or thing.  It does not have to mean attraction, all though it can.  Currently, I find no one attractive, but that doesn't mean I can't call females pretty or asthetically pleasing.  You're just too close minded to accept that a man doesn't find women attractive at a stage of his life.  That doesn't make him gay, that just means he has more important things to focus on.

You forgot one thing CJLP...You should have said...IN MY OPINION....

Stardate:213704.9

 

 

 

Any body ever see that 70's show.If u have then you know what i mean when I say " OOOOOOHHHHHH BUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!! :force: "LOL Thats two burns CJLP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Wrong, "asthetically pleasing" means that you like the physical appearance of a person or thing.  It does not have to mean attraction, all though it can.  Currently, I find no one attractive, but that doesn't mean I can't call females pretty or asthetically pleasing.  You're just too close minded to accept that a man doesn't find women attractive at a stage of his life.  That doesn't make him gay, that just means he has more important things to focus on.

You forgot one thing CJLP...You should have said...IN MY OPINION....

Stardate:213704.9

 

 

 

Any body ever see that 70's show.If u have then you know what i mean when I say " OOOOOOHHHHHH BUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!! :) "LOL Thats two burns CJLP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Judging from the preview to next week's Enterprise ("Raijin"), we're about to hit an alltime low.

 

C'mon, an episode about a sex slave? Could you possibly be more obvious, Bermaga? And I thought Bounty (or, as Television Without Pity renames it, Booty.) was bad. This time it looks like they're even going the homosexual route.

 

I think I may skip next week.

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This is not the first time for this, remember "green animal slave women" from the OS? B&B are taking things only ever hinted at in TOS and bringing them to the head of the class, what's the problem?

 

edit to address picards statement below:

 

Alterego, in TOS, there was implication, not graphic sexuallity. Big difference.

 

CJ-LP You have admitted (many times) to not seeing all of TOS so I doubt your in a position to pass judgment there. I have seen every episode of TOS dozens and dozens of times and am very familiar with the sexual theme's running throughout and ENT is not that different. Imo ENT guilt lies only in the way episode promos seem to exaggerate its promise for an hour of sexual romp, big difference from what we actually end up seeing. Finally, I've also seen (many times) your post's giving advice to them displeased for whatever reason with ENT to stop watching, perhaps you should, well, you know… call it quits on ENT and stick to the shows you trust to adhere to your high moral standard.

Edited by Alterego

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Yes it is, the trailers for the old show didn't hint at man-woman, woman-on-woman, and another-woman-on-woman sex. It looks to me as if B&B are specifically drawing parallels to the pornography industry. A move which disgusts me.

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Stardate:213734.9

 

 

I have said it before and ill say it again.Enterprise is a modern day star trek.That is how modern day tv is. :blink:

 

Also this isnt the first time we have seen girl on girl stuff.Remeber the episode where Jadiza kissed that other female trill.OR Ezri kissing Kira

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C'mon, an episode about a sex slave? Could you possibly be more obvious, Bermaga? And I thought Bounty (or, as Television Without Pity renames it, Booty.) was bad. This time it looks like they're even going the homosexual route.

 

Nothin was wrong with bounty it was a good eppisode archer was running from klingons and who can't love a vulcan woman in heat (especialy when it is T'Pol) and there aint no thing wrong with girl on girl if they are hotties but i do have a problem with guy on guy because that just is not right

Edited by Korthedaharmaster

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CaptQuick, I totally agree with both your posts. Infact, I know someone who has quit watching ENT all together becuase of the heavy sexual themes.

 

Alterego, in TOS, there was implication, not graphic sexuallity. Big difference.

 

Geranimo, just becuase this is how "modern TV" is done, doesn't make it right. Further more, I've never seen a TV show with as much sexuallity as ENT. Also, I found both female/female kisses on DS9 to be utterly disgusting and offensive. That is not why I watch TV.

 

Korthedaharmaster, got anything mature to say in your first post? Also, in your second post, how can you say girl/girl is OK but guy/guy isn't? That's extremely hypocritical. Oh, and to answer your question about who can't love a woman in heat, well, me for starters. I find that kind of behavior to be disgusting.

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T'pol naked yah

Oh great..Let's see how can I say this nicely..?..If you want to see something that adult go rent a Porn Video..It has no place in the world of Star Trek..Enterprise is having enough trouble surviving as it is..

 

CJLP, I know that you think there is too much sexuality on Enterprise..I don't agree..There will be people who agree and disagree with you about this subject..In the end there really is nothing we can do about it..We either have to watch it or turn it off..I will say this: I do hope they don't go too far in next weeks episode..TPTB probably think that kind of episode will attract viewers..I don't know..I just hope that there is a good story with the episode..

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KM, you don't have to have 2 people having sexual intercoarse in order to have "sexuallity".  In Bounty, when T'Pol goes into Pon-Farr, goes after Dr. Phlox, then runs arround in her undies - well, I call that graphic sexuallity.

That's what you call graphic sexuality?!..I don't agree with you but no big surprise there..I suppose we all have our own definition of sexuality..But graphic seems to suggest nudity to me and I still haven't seen any nudity on any Star Trek show...

Edited by spacetigger

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Real Quick Where has this nudity in Enterprise been nudity is not the side of her tity and the top of her but crack is not nudity but it is hot we live in a time where slowly nudity is becoming acceptiabel just look at the news stands and other tv shows for example that new show Nip/Tuck or the O.C. on fox both of those are worst than Enterprise in the sex department. and if u look at Europe Nudity is acceptabel over there in my opinion the u.s..has one to many censhorship laws. now i dont mean that people should be abel to walk down the street naked because i could see where that is offensive i would certainly take offence to that but Enterprise has shown some skin so what nothin wrong with that and women can't say that they have shown no men just women topless so relax if u dont like it you can do a few things

1. tape the show and when a scene that u find offensive comes on fast forward it

2. you can turn it off when a scene like that starts

3. or u can simply not watch it but that would be a shame because it is such a great show

any way that is my 2 sense and ill say what i said in an earlier post T'pol naked yah

Edited by Korthedaharmaster

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IMO, Nothing that has been shown on ENT has been graphic nudity. We live in an openminded society and the issues that ENT are addressing are issues that we deal with in our own time, the same type of issues that were dealt with on TOS in it own right.

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I have no problem with nudity on Star Trek as long as its done tastefully,and as long as there is a point to it.I do not consider T'Pol's undie romp sexually explicit.

I agree completely. We have seen the male characters in much the same attire as we have seen T'Pol. And as for the Pon Farr part of Bounty, we have seen the Pon Farr since the time of TOS.

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Well, I guess it depends on your morals and ethics. Some of us prefer people to stay clothed on TV. By the way, my current shows are Stargate SG-1, Enterprise, & Everwood. Only ENT has the heavy sexuallity. If it continues down this road further, I'm going to have to stop watching. I'd also appreciate it if you'd stop belittling my views on sexuallity and nudity and respect views that don't conform to your own.

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