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I was just thinking, what do you think were the reasons that got Janeway promoted to Admiral? Perhaps it was something she did after returning to Earth? We know she works at Starfleet Command, but what does she do? (besides order Picard arround :) )

 

In my opinion, the reasons why she got promoted to Admiral instead of given a new command was becuase she brought Voyager home from the Delta Quadrant, made contact with dozends if not hundreads of species, made critical blows to the Borg, rescued Annika Hansen from the Borg, and so forth. I think these were the reasons for her promotion. As for what she's doing at Starfleet Command? Who knows... got any ideas?

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In my opinion, the reasons why she got promoted to Admiral instead of given a new command was becuase she brought Voyager home from the Delta Quadrant, made contact with dozends if not hundreads of species, made critical blows to the Borg, rescued Annika Hansen from the Borg, and so forth.  I think these were the reasons for her promotion.  As for what she's doing at Starfleet Command?  Who knows...  got any ideas?[/glow]

This is what I think also. But really can't say. All because I have not read the books yet, Nor, am I allowed to buy them. (And I am 49 years old and being told what I can and can not do.) OH, Well. What can I say. Depend on you folks to fill me in. :) :(

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I think she may be doing intellegence of some sort.In End Game she was doing intellegence on the borg so thats what she may be doing

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I might be able to answer one of those questions..as I finished reading 'homecoming part 1 and 2'...Careful now

 

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Janeway and Tuvok teach a class together..Although the book hints slightly at a "Project" shes working on, it ends with a bigger deal for her old 2nd in Command

 

 

 

But who knows..that aint Canon right.

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Well, 2 reasons IMO

 

1) Just bringing Voyager home was something

2) She got a lot of intelligence, new knowledge from the Delta quadrant

 

 

And, this is a good way to bring her doing a Cameo :)

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I agree. I think she got promoted because she brought Voyager home with new knowlegde. Besides that she kept her crew alive and hopeful to be able to return to the Alpha Quadrant for seven years in a foreign quadrant with lots of enemies.

 

 

Mrs. Captain Picard

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I think that common sense will dictate that she got promoted due to her efforts in the Delta Quadrant.

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If you think about it, not only did Janeway sucessfully bring Voyager back; but while out there she united two crews. The MaQuis a rebel crew was sucessfully integrated into the Star Fleet crew, with the exception of Seska and one or two others. Yes, she also made many alliances with new species unknown to the Alpha Quadrant. She brought information back to earth about new species that the federation was unaware of. She brought new technology back to earth. She sucessfully waged war against the Borg, and even rescued a Borg from the collective.......Seven of 9. She kept morale up with her crew,even during times when all seemed lost. She valued all of their lives. And they knew that they could count on her, no matter what. I believe Janeway was promoted to Admiral for these reasons and many more. :) MIGHTY, MIGHTY JANEWAY!!!

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But really can't say. All because I have not read the books yet, Nor, am I allowed to buy them. (And I am 49 years old and being told what I can and can not do.) OH, Well. What can I say. Depend on you folks to fill me in.[/glow][/size][/color] :)  :o

Since you brought this up, would you care to explain this further? :)

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I think they promoted Janeway to admiral as a way of thanking her for leaving Neelix in the Delta Quadrant and sparing the Federation that particular experience. :biggrin:

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I think they promoted Janeway to admiral as a way of thanking her for leaving Neelix in the Delta Quadrant and sparing the Federation that particular experience.  :biggrin:

Poor,poor Nelix.....Why do so many dislike him so much? :grin::grin: :lol:

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I think they promoted Janeway to admiral as a way of thanking her for leaving Neelix in the Delta Quadrant and sparing the Federation that particular experience.  :grin:

Poor,poor Nelix.....Why do so many dislike him so much? :biggrin: :lol: :grin:

I think it was the over-happy-everyone-needs-my-help attitude...And his horrible cooking.

 

I, personally don't think he's an aweful, not my favorite, but not my least favorite.

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hmmm while locutus and seven have experience within the borg conciousness, its only logical that since janeway has the most experience with combatting the borg, she could be an admiral assigned to anti-borg defensive strategy of the federation. second, next to kirk, janeway has the destinction of having the most first-contacts under her belt, so she could be some specialist in first contact or conflict resolutions within the federation...i dont she is going to end up being some, pencil pusher admiral with a cushy job, but in fact an admiral who will lead from the front bringing around great change in the star fleet, in both defensive and exploratory fields

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hmmm while locutus and seven have experience within the borg conciousness,  its only logical that since janeway has the most experience with combatting the borg, she could be an admiral assigned to anti-borg defensive strategy of the federation.  second, next to kirk, janeway has the destinction of having the most first-contacts under her belt, so she could be some specialist in first contact or conflict resolutions within the federation...i dont she is going to end up being some, pencil pusher admiral with a cushy job, but in fact an admiral  who will lead from the front bringing around great change in the star fleet, in both defensive and exploratory fields

Hmmm...You Make A Good Point. :(

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I wonder if she was promoted because of the enhancements she brought back aboard Voyager(made possible by the time-hopping future Janeway).In the spirit of the temporal prime directive none of these enhancements should have been permitted to survive Voyagers return home.They should have been destroyed like the Tox Uthat on Risa(TNG).But we know that they probably weren't.Heck,I wouldn't get rid of them!Besides,Its nice to have an admiral who doesn't look like she's late for her bingo game at the senior's center.

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I wonder if she was promoted because of the enhancements she brought back aboard Voyager(made possible by the time-hopping future Janeway).In the spirit of the temporal prime directive none of these enhancements should have been permitted to survive Voyagers return home.They should have been destroyed like the Tox Uthat on Risa(TNG).But we know that they probably weren't.Heck,I wouldn't get rid of them!Besides,Its nice to have an admiral who doesn't look like she's late for her bingo game at the senior's center.

Yeah it's like all the roles of Admiral were written for Jessiaca Tandy...

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i think its a bit dodgey that she is promoted within what, 6 months of her 7 year mission and Picards still a Captain after, what? 14 years? Or does he want to stay a captain? ***note: my first atempt at glow!

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I think Jean-Luc is still Captain because he wants to be one, he likes it better to fly around in space :lol: And he follows James T. Kirk's orders.... :blink:

 

But I think Janeway had the fear of getting lost somewhere again and was glad to be promoted to Admiral and get a small office at Starfleet Headquarters (at least I think so).

 

 

 

Mrs. Captain Picard

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If I were Janeway's superior I would have ordered her resignation from Starfleet. She seriously violated the temporal directive. She altered 15 years of time. This means that some little boys and girl will never get the chance to even exist in the new time line. Janeway did this as an admiral, so why would I promote the Captain to one. I would have to worry that she may someday to an opportunity to change the future for some other reason. This could alter my life, and the life of my loved ones. I could not allow an officer with so little regard to the timeline to remain an officer. Sure, she destroyed most of the Borg collective but the ends do not justify the means. Janeway just doesn't have the moral backbone that Picard has. She should be able to accept that people die and things go wrong; not alter 15 years of peoples lives. Thats just not fair to anyone.

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I believe that Janeway got promoted becuase of the reasons why everyone else gets promoted, beucase of hard work and dedication. Of course she had to do a lot more extra, by being trapped 70,000 light years in the Delta Quadrant, but should she get promoted just beucase she had to do more work than anyone else? That question is for you to decide on your own, but she had personal strengths and weakness' and even if she didn't get promoted I feel that she felt she had grown spiritually (with Kes and Tuvock), physically (with Away Missions and Aliens), and emotionally (coping with Chokatay and the loss of her fieance). A promotion to Admiral is no real reward, but what is the greater award is the things that she accomplished out of the mission.

 

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Poor Equinox... I got the book Equinox and started crying before I even opening the pages.... the tv episode is so emotional and the book is yet again powerful. I wonder what would of happened to him, if he made it through to the Federation. Edited by Syperphobia

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i think its a bit dodgey that she is promoted within what, 6 months of her 7 year mission and Picards still a Captain after, what? 14 years? Or does he want to stay a captain? ***note: my first atempt at glow!

Note, he might of not had proven yet what it takes to be Admiral, although I think that even that reason is a bit stupid.... Hey, its the ST Universe. Everyone cannot have a happy-ever-after.

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If I were Janeway's superior I would have ordered her resignation from Starfleet.  She seriously violated the temporal directive.  She altered 15 years of time.  This means that some little boys and girl will never get the chance to even exist in the new time line.  Janeway did this as an admiral, so why would I promote the Captain to one.  I would have to worry that she may someday to an opportunity to change the future for some other reason.  This could alter my life, and the life of my loved ones.  I could not allow an officer with so little regard to the timeline to remain an officer.  Sure, she destroyed most of the Borg collective but the ends do not justify the means.  Janeway just doesn't have the moral backbone that Picard has.  She should be able to accept that people die and things go wrong; not alter 15 years of peoples lives.  Thats just not fair to anyone.

Actually, Janeway didn't violate the Temporal Prime Directive. A future Admiral Janeway alterred time, not Captain Janeway. The person responsible died in the explossion of Unimatrix 01. :look:

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If I were Janeway's superior I would have ordered her resignation from Starfleet.  She seriously violated the temporal directive.  She altered 15 years of time.  This means that some little boys and girl will never get the chance to even exist in the new time line.  Janeway did this as an admiral, so why would I promote the Captain to one.  I would have to worry that she may someday to an opportunity to change the future for some other reason.  This could alter my life, and the life of my loved ones.  I could not allow an officer with so little regard to the timeline to remain an officer.  Sure, she destroyed most of the Borg collective but the ends do not justify the means.  Janeway just doesn't have the moral backbone that Picard has.  She should be able to accept that people die and things go wrong; not alter 15 years of peoples lives.  Thats just not fair to anyone.

Actually, Janeway didn't violate the Temporal Prime Directive. A future Admiral Janeway alterred time, not Captain Janeway. The person responsible died in the explossion of Unimatrix 01. :bow:

Point well takenCJLP................ :)!!!!

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but in relativity captian braxton was arrested for crimes that he had yet to commit why not janeway?

You have a point, but they can't ingrate Captain Janeway with her future self because she's dead and they don't have the technology and changing history could change Janeway's future. Also those where future laws that haven't been made up yet.

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