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  1. Well said, Dragonwrangler! Every American should visit the Battlefield at Gettysburg. (Side trip to Eisenhower's farm is also worthwhile.) Walk that Battlefield and reflect on the many sacrifices by the soldiers on both sides. There are many highlights of that battlefield - Big and Little Roundtop, Pickett's Charge, the Peach Orchard, the Wheatfield, etc... For me the story of the troops commanded by Joshua Chamberlain is always a highlight. Go there and be inspired.


  2. that's a hard one. :P

     

    I love "America", it's such a beautiful song.

     

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    O beautiful for spacious skies,

    For amber waves of grain,

    For purple mountain majesties

    Above the fruited plain!

    America! America!

    God shed his grace on thee

    And crown thy good with brotherhood

    From sea to shining sea!

     

    O beautiful for pilgrim feet

    Whose stern, impassioned stress

    A thoroughfare for freedom beat

    Across the wilderness!

    America! America!

    God mend thine every flaw,

    Confirm thy soul in self-control,

    Thy liberty in law!

     

    O beautiful for heroes proved In liberating strife.

    Who more than self the country loved

    And mercy more than life!

    America! America!

    May God thy gold refine

    Till all success be nobleness

    And every gain divine!

     

    O beautiful for patriot dream

    That sees beyond the years

    Thine alabaster cities gleam

    Undimmed by human tears!

    America! America!

    God shed his grace on thee

    And crown thy good with brotherhood

    From sea to shining sea!

     

    O beautiful for halcyon skies,

    For amber waves of grain,

    For purple mountain majesties

    Above the enameled plain!

    America! America!

    God shed his grace on thee

    Till souls wax fair as earth and air

    And music-hearted sea!

     

    O beautiful for pilgrims feet,

    Whose stern impassioned stress

    A thoroughfare for freedom beat

    Across the wilderness!

    America ! America !

    God shed his grace on thee

    Till paths be wrought through

    wilds of thought

    By pilgrim foot and knee!

     

    O beautiful for glory-tale

    Of liberating strife

    When once and twice,

    for man's avail

    Men lavished precious life !

    America! America!

    God shed his grace on thee

    Till selfish gain no longer stain

    The banner of the free!

     

    O beautiful for patriot dream

    That sees beyond the years

    Thine alabaster cities gleam

    Undimmed by human tears!

    America! America!

    God shed his grace on thee

    Till nobler men keep once again

    Thy whiter jubilee!

     

     

    I also love "Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "God Bless America"

     

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    Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;

    He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;

    He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;

    His truth is marching on.

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

     

    I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps

    They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;

    I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;

    His day is marching on.

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

     

    I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;

    “As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;

    Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,

    Since God is marching on.

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

     

    He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;

    He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;

    Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;

    Our God is marching on.

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

     

    In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,

    With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:

    As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;

    [originally …let us die to make men free]

    While God is marching on.

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

     

    He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,

    He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;

    So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,

    Our God is marching on.

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!

    Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

     

     

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    God bless America, land that I love

    Stand beside her and guide her

    Through the night with the light from above

    From the mountains To the prairies,

    To the ocean white with foam

    God bless America, My home sweet home.

     

    And I often find myself singing "this land is your land" when I'm painting. I don't know why, but it makes me happy. :P

     

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    Chorus:

    This land is your land, this land is my land

    From California, to the New York Island

    From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters

    This land was made for you and me

     

    As I was walking a ribbon of highway

    I saw above me an endless skyway

    I saw below me a golden valley

    This land was made for you and me

     

    Chorus

     

    I've roamed and rambled and I've followed my footsteps

    To the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts

    And all around me a voice was sounding

    This land was made for you and me

     

    Chorus

     

    The sun comes shining as I was strolling

    The wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling

    The fog was lifting a voice come chanting

    This land was made for you and me

     

    Chorus

     

    As I was walkin'  -  I saw a sign there

    And that sign said - no tress passin'

    But on the other side  .... it didn't say nothin!

    Now that side was made for you and me!

     

    Chorus

     

    In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple

    Near the relief office - I see my people

    And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'

    If this land's still made for you and me.

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    Wow, MB those are exactly the four songs I was thinking of! (Ponders phychic abilities, or are mine more psycho?)

    The version of God Bless America I always think of is by the late, great Kate Smith


  3. While the new BSG is interesting, I prefer the original in that it had a more positive feel. Even thought they were "fleeing from Cylon tyranny" they didn't have spies constantly in their midst, weren't screaming at each other, didn't have to resort to cylon seducing scientist scenes every 15 minutes, etc... In fact it reminded me of the positive character of TOS in some ways, as they kept searching for "that shining star, known as earth."


  4. Very nice graphics, athena!

     

    Happy Canada Day to all startrekfans members from Canada and to all!

     

    If you have never visited our neighbor to the North you MUST!

    From visits to Victoria, Vancouver, Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper, Calgary, Montreal, Quebec City, PEI, Newfoundland and more, Canada is a beautiful country with wonderful people.

     

    Happy Canada Day!


  5. Happy Canada Day to all the Startrekfans members from Canada and to all the wonderful residents of our neighbor to the North! :P :P :P

     

    I love visiting and traveling in Canada. It is a beautiful country with many friendly people. The Canadian Rockies and BC are not to be missed but central and maritime Canada are also great. Newfoundland is awesome (would love to visit again). If you've never visited Canada you MUST go!

     

    Again Happy Canada Day to all!


  6. I voted for archeologist since her posts in that area are always of personal interest to me. She is however constantly bringing in new information or knowledge, so bringer of knowledge would also be appropriate.


  7. Oh yes, many died to protect the noble Reds from the invading Blues .... :P

     

    Is there any site that lists which ships are in the actual reenactment and what countries they are from?

     

    Personal historical note (of interest only to me :unsure: ). One of my Great great grandfathers was supposedly a drummer's boy at the later Battle of Waterloo.

    I always heard he was on the British side, not the Reds or the Blues. B)


  8. You see, when the crew got home, this is what happened:

     

    The ship - Retired and placed in Starfleet Museum.

     

    Janeway - Became an Admiral. Found her dog. Killed that bloke she was with in the first episode for not waiting for her.

     

    Chakotay - Moves to that Native American planet where Wesley Crusher became GOD.

     

    Tuvok - Goes back to Vulcan, finds his wife, locks himself in the bedroom with her and has a little PON FARR action.

     

    Paris/Torres/Their Hybrid Kid - Happily ever after.

     

    Kim - Gets married......to a bloke!!!!

     

    Doctor - They download his entire medical database then shut him down. His batteries must have run out by now.

     

    Seven Of Nine - Gets together with Brannon Braga. Kills him. We celebrate.

     

     

    So there you are. No movie necessary.  :lol:

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    B) :P :wow:

    Very nice summary King!

     

    I would rather see a DS9 movie also, but a mixed cast movie would be much easier to pull off (TNG, DS9 and VOY). Or bring back an aging Captain Sulu! :unsure:


  9. Reagan was in charge for 8 years, but yes Congress does pass budget bills. But Reagan was using the Presidency as a bully pulpit to push oppostition to Communism which meant sky high military expenditures which resulted in the highest budget deficit ever at that time. No one was going to be soft on Communism so of course the budget bills were approved.


  10. I think that Reagan won because more people personally remember him.

    When I remember Ronald Reagan I remember the Iran Contra Scandal, the HUGE federal deficit he ran up, his cuts to mental health programs, press coverage of him that was basically photo ops, etc. While he deserves credit for standing firm on communism, he didn't do it single handedly. Gorbachov deserves a great deal of credit for not making it more difficult and contentious, imo.

     

    But I have to remember in the words of William Shatner - It's just a tv show!

     

    I would like to see a scholarly look at the greatest Americans - I think the Discovery channel owes us that after the questionable people who made the original list imo. I also feel that in 50, 100 or 200 years that Reagan may not be ranked as number 1. But that is just my opinion.


  11. I hope others are voting for Ben Franklin. I feel he deserves winning as much as the other 4. Maybe more because he was multi-talented.

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    During the brief time I watched the last 100 Greatest Americans, the most impressive job of pushing any of the five candidates was done by the representative for Franklin. She was persuasive yet funny. Her remark that Franklin was so clearly superior that the other representatives "should go fly a kite!" was a classic!

     

    I still favor Lincoln and Washington as my number 1 and 2 choices but Franklin is a close third, imo.


  12. Robert E. Lee was pardoned by President Gerald Ford and I believe his citizenship was restored to him posthumously.  I know I read that somewhere.

     

    His judgment in choosing to fight against the U.S. to which he'd sworn an oath to defend was certainly questionable .... but those were very different times.  I think it would be hard for us to conceive of how the U.S. was prior to the Civil War.  States regarded themselves as little countries, not really part of an organized "whole." 

     

    But because he was pardoned, would that not allow us to include him on the list, treason or no?

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    A very good question. Which of course begets others.

     

    How does Lee's treason compare to Ali refusing to serve in the military as a factor for inclusion or exclusion as a greatest American?

    If you include Lee, do you also include Grant? But does Grant's poor record and scandals during his Presidency negate his accomplishments as a General?

    Should Eisenhower be on the list as a General or as a President or for both accomplishments? (I think his instituting the interstate highway system was a major accomplishment)


  13. I have worked on my genealogy over the years and have Catholics, Puritans, Quakers, Lutherans, Church of England, Evangelical United Brethren, Methodists and Christian Scientists in my ancestors past.

    On the Irish side of the family at one point boys became Protestants, going to Church with their father and girls became Catholics going to church with their mother.

    My English born grandfather as a boy worked at a church shared by Methodists and Baptists in a small town in Illinois. There was a dispute over the hymn books and he sat on them to prevent the Baptists from taking them out of the church.

    The Christian Scientists were a very interesting group. They once went on a trip to Boston with an aunt who was not Christian Scientist. This aunt was not allowed to go into the Mother Church in Boston and was quite cranky about it for years!

    Religion and how it shapes and affects families is quite interesting imo.


  14. I like local places too. We live close to a steak/ribs/fish place called Gale Street Inn that is great. A good Mexican place called Mateos is not far away. Berghoff's downtown (Chicago) is a classic German place and Miller's Pub near it is great too.

    For breakfast a chain called Le Peep is good as is the Pancake House. But Alps Restaurant is closed currently :thumbs: Great Norwegian/Swedish place nearby is Tre Kronor's. Russell's is a suburban Barbeque place we like.

    On the road Bob Evan's is a fave.


  15. These are the results of 25 - 6 of the Greatest American:

     

    25. Neil Armstrong

    24. Henry Ford

    23. Wright Bothers

    22. Rosa Parks

    21. Muhammad Ali

    20. Lance Armstrong

    19. Eleanor Roosevelt

    18. Bill Gates

    17. Bob Hope

    16. John F. Kennedy

    15. Thomas A. Edison

    14. Albert Einstein

    13. Walt Disney

    12. Thomas Jefferson

    11. Billy Graham

    10. Franklin D. Roosevelt

    9. Oprah Winfrey

    8. Elvis Presley

    7. Bill Clinton

    6. George W. Bush


  16. The top (final) five candidates for Greatest American are (in alphabetical order by last name):

    Benjamin Franklin

    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Abraham Lincoln

    Ronald Reagan

    George Washington

     

    George W. Bush came in 6th and Bill Clinton 7th.

     

    "Celebrity" commentators were Dennis Miller, Randy Jackson and Ann Coulter!

    Coulter lectured the Martin Luther King Jr. spokesman for not immediately emphasizing his being a Christian. I could only stand to watch about 10 minutes of it.