cassidy 0 Posted December 29, 2003 (edited) I have been reading up on the prophecies of Nostradamus. They're really amazing - i really recommend that you check it out. For instance Nostradamus predicted the first and second world wars: For the first a noble is twice attacked [=Austrian Archduke] In the streets of ILLyria [=Yugoslavia] and dies The wolf [=germany] lifts up his eyes to the moon And the eastern empire [czarist russia] loses its head. For the second, Rome [of Mussolini] conspires with the wolf [=germany] Between them they eat the [roman] empire Mighty sounds light up the nights And countless multitudes are trampled. There are even prophecies for the third world war: For the third the earth shakes The throat of the Gaul is ravaged Many die fleeing from the awful winds The sun halts in its path in the heaven Scary stuff. Of course, it's all open to interpretation so it may not be correct. And keep in mind that Nostradamus was a prophet in the 15th or 16th Century. Tell me your thoughts because I'm not sure what to make of this. Edited December 29, 2003 by cassidy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Kirk 1 Posted December 29, 2003 Hmm I always thought Nostradamus's predictions were creepy and highly open to interpretation. BTW Gaul is the ancient name for France isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Bolivar 0 Posted December 29, 2003 Yes I think his stuff is highly open to prediction as well. Besides, over a long period of time it becomes more likely that similar events can occur out of sheer conincidence. But I'm sure it is still interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deagletime 1 Posted December 29, 2003 For the third the earth shakes so the beginning of the 3rd war starts with nuclear weapons? The throat of the Gaul is ravaged western europe is the center of the attack Many die fleeing from the awful winds nuclear fallout kills many The sun halts in its path in the heaven cant see the sun because of the fallout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted December 29, 2003 Off topic, but my dad refers to the Cold War as WW III. What do you all think of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyNarana 0 Posted December 29, 2003 Yes, Gaul is/was France. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted December 29, 2003 Personally, I don't think Nuclear War will happen. Why? Becuase if one country launches their weapons, then other countries will, and so on. When it's all over, Earth will be as dead as Mars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stelfan 0 Posted December 29, 2003 Hmm I always thought Nostradamus's predictions were creepy and highly open to interpretation. ? I would call it EXTREMLY open to interpretation. I say they could be used to describe a lot of things, not just the World Wars.. But I guess you should never say never, but I can't say I believe in this kind of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theunicornhunter 2 Posted December 29, 2003 There was a series calles Second Wave on the Scifi channel that used the prophecies of Nostradamus as part of the plot but I don't know if they used real quotes. I agree with others - they are open to broad application. I would also say that keeping up with current events is probably a better way to prepare for whatever lies before us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cassidy 0 Posted December 30, 2003 I do agree that these are highly open to interpretation, but some of Nostradamus' quatrains contain dates of events. But it is also amazing that Nostradamus was correct about the modern enemy countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cassidy 0 Posted December 31, 2003 This is a prophecy by Mother Shipton (1488-1561) And before the race is built anew A silver serpent comes into view And spew out men of like unknown To mingle with the earth now grown Cold from its heat, and these men can Enlighten the minds of future man To intermingle and show them how To live and love and thus endow The children with the second sight. A natural thing so that they might Grow graceful, humble, and when they do The Golden Age will stand anew. Sounds like aliens to me, maybe the Zeta-Reticuli Grays. What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goose 0 Posted December 31, 2003 Stardate:213999.6 They had a very interesting documentary on the History Channel a few weeks ago.Some of the caudranes(I know I spelled that wrong lol) he came up with were kinda creppy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cassidy 0 Posted January 1, 2004 Here's a scary one: The well-off suddenly will be brought low The world is put into trouble by three brothers The enemy will seize the maritime city [=Marseille?] Famine, fire, blood, plague, and double of all evils. It is said that this quatrain is about WWIII. Sounds like the use of biological and chemical weapons. What do you think the double of all evils means? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theunicornhunter 2 Posted January 1, 2004 Here's a scary one: The well-off suddenly will be brought low The world is put into trouble by three brothers The enemy will seize the maritime city [=Marseille?] Famine, fire, blood, plague, and double of all evils. It is said that this quatrain is about WWIII. Sounds like the use of biological and chemical weapons. What do you think the double of all evils means? I went to a couple of websites and tried to get a little background on Nostrodamus - I had heard of him but never really read any of his writings. One critique - which I can see in this quatrain is that they are vague and can be applied to more than one event by concentrating on certain lines. If I had simply read this quatrain without your introduction that it was about WWIII I am not sure WWIII would have come to mind. To me it could also be interpreted that a economic downturn is brought about by a natural disaster. In his time period - famine, plague etc would be likely outcomes of a natural disaster like an earthquake or meteor etc. (they still are today) Three brothers could be a metaphor for mountains, volcanoes, stars etc. Double all evil could simply be a quantitative term meaning "really bad" I won't say it is impossible that Nostrodamus had visions - there are many unexplained events in the world. I guess the main issue I have is they aren't specific enough to give any real warning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cassidy 0 Posted January 2, 2004 Here's a scary one: The well-off suddenly will be brought low The world is put into trouble by three brothers The enemy will seize the maritime city [=Marseille?] Famine, fire, blood, plague, and double of all evils. It is said that this quatrain is about WWIII. Sounds like the use of biological and chemical weapons. What do you think the double of all evils means? I went to a couple of websites and tried to get a little background on Nostrodamus - I had heard of him but never really read any of his writings. One critique - which I can see in this quatrain is that they are vague and can be applied to more than one event by concentrating on certain lines. If I had simply read this quatrain without your introduction that it was about WWIII I am not sure WWIII would have come to mind. To me it could also be interpreted that a economic downturn is brought about by a natural disaster. In his time period - famine, plague etc would be likely outcomes of a natural disaster like an earthquake or meteor etc. (they still are today) Three brothers could be a metaphor for mountains, volcanoes, stars etc. Double all evil could simply be a quantitative term meaning "really bad" I won't say it is impossible that Nostrodamus had visions - there are many unexplained events in the world. I guess the main issue I have is they aren't specific enough to give any real warning. Of course I understand what you mean - I'm still trying to work out what to think. But assuming that Nostradamus' prophecies were correct, it still means that something bad is going to happen. The reason they aren't very specific is because he wrote the quatrains in a very god-fearing time. He believed that he would have been killed for such controversial stuff. It's a pity, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites