jaina27 0 Posted August 12, 2004 Hey guys, I know we have a few LOTR fans out there and some of you may have already visited this site, but this is a neat way to learn elvish. Have fun!! http://learnelvish.com/ Also, this is not like a complete dictionary...so if anyone knows of a site that I can visit that would have even more English words translated to Elvish, please let me know!!! ~Jaina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrWho42 13 Posted August 12, 2004 (edited) Binary, Elvish, Klingon, and some others... EDIT: Isn't "Black Speech" known as "Ebonics"? Edited August 12, 2004 by drwho42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sea trooper 0 Posted August 12, 2004 Native Bajoran Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaina27 0 Posted August 12, 2004 EDIT: Isn't "Black Speech" known as "Ebonics"? Good question...I just wrote down what I found on that elvish site...anyone know the answer to this one? I believe this is the language of the ring, and they called it something other than Black Speech in the books and movies, but I am not sure what. It is the evil language of Mordor, of Lord Sauron. ~Jaina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sea trooper 0 Posted August 12, 2004 EDIT: Isn't "Black Speech" known as "Ebonics"? Good question...I just wrote down what I found on that elvish site...anyone know the answer to this one? I believe this is the language of the ring, and they called it something other than Black Speech in the books and movies, but I am not sure what. It is the evil language of Mordor, of Lord Sauron. ~Jaina 249344[/snapback] Is Jive another form of black speech or is it all one and the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaina27 0 Posted August 12, 2004 EDIT: Isn't "Black Speech" known as "Ebonics"? Good question...I just wrote down what I found on that elvish site...anyone know the answer to this one? I believe this is the language of the ring, and they called it something other than Black Speech in the books and movies, but I am not sure what. It is the evil language of Mordor, of Lord Sauron. ~Jaina 249344[/snapback] Is Jive another form of black speech or is it all one and the same? 249347[/snapback] Help!! Fellow LOTR fans greatly needed!!! LOL. I am not sure...maybe someone will eventually read this and set us all straight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted August 12, 2004 I take Latin, Know Cantonese, speak english... So I'll go with Esperanto, Vulcan, Klingon, Bajoran, Binary, hexagonal, C++, Basic, Black Speech, and Mandarin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaleman 0 Posted August 12, 2004 (edited) I picked Other, or aka "just give me a Universal Translator!!!" Actually, i wouldn't mind learning elvish, it sounds rather soft compared to english, but i don't think my head could absorb it . Edited August 12, 2004 by scaleman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrWho42 13 Posted August 12, 2004 (edited) EDIT: Isn't "Black Speech" known as "Ebonics"? Good question...I just wrote down what I found on that elvish site...anyone know the answer to this one? I believe this is the language of the ring, and they called it something other than Black Speech in the books and movies, but I am not sure what. It is the evil language of Mordor, of Lord Sauron. ~Jaina 249344[/snapback] Is Jive another form of black speech or is it all one and the same? 249347[/snapback] Help!! Fellow LOTR fans greatly needed!!! LOL. I am not sure...maybe someone will eventually read this and set us all straight 249352[/snapback] Well, I used to be a very good LOTR fan... Mostly before the movies came out... I originally thought what you meant by Black Speech, as: "Black English"... Thus I thought you meant: Ebonics... A bad example of Ebonics, I think, might be... What ya talkin' 'bout foo? I would have liked to speak in Esperanto too... Which was featured in the 1997 film: Gattaca, which the speakers spoke both english and esperanto... :cool1: Among my favourite movies, actually... Edited August 12, 2004 by drwho42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tal 0 Posted August 12, 2004 I voted other mainly Romulan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nik 0 Posted August 12, 2004 Russian or Cantonese. I already know Japanese and French pretty well, and a bit of Portuguese. I'd like to learn Russian to experience the samantic paradigm shift to another root, and Cantonese because it would be nice to speak to ~20% of the world's population in their native language. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted August 12, 2004 EDIT: Isn't "Black Speech" known as "Ebonics"? Good question...I just wrote down what I found on that elvish site...anyone know the answer to this one? I believe this is the language of the ring, and they called it something other than Black Speech in the books and movies, but I am not sure what. It is the evil language of Mordor, of Lord Sauron. ~Jaina 249344[/snapback] Is Jive another form of black speech or is it all one and the same? 249347[/snapback] I believe "Jive" is just another word for "lying", that's what I've been told on numerous occasions. "Jive Talkin" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangon 3 Posted August 12, 2004 I would like to learn the language women talk cuz i dont understand one word of it ...joke.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivendells_king 0 Posted August 12, 2004 Black speech is the language of mordor. Even though I think orcs have kinda there own language but i am not sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted August 12, 2004 In Frodo's day, the linguistic situation was unchanged: "The orcs and goblins had languages of their own, as hideous as all things that they made or used, and since some remnant of good will, and true thought and perception, is required to keep even a base language alive and useful even for base purposes, their tongues were endlessly diversified in form, as they were deadly monotonous in purport, fluent only in the expression of abuse, of hatred and fear" (PM:21). Indeed "these creatures, being filled with malice, hating even their own kind, quickly developed as many barbarous dialects as there were groups or settlements of their race, so that their Orkish speech was of little use to them in intercourse between different tribes" (LotR Appendix F). Hence there is no single "Orkish" language for us to analyze. The only thing that seems to be true of all Orkish languages at all times is that they were "hideous and foul and utterly unlike the languages of the Qendi" (LR:178). Indeed "Orcs and Trolls spoke as they would, without love of words and things" (Appendix F). Hence their attitude towards Language was totally different from that of the Elves, who loved and cultivated their tongue. Tolkien was himself a philologist, which title literally implies lover or friend of words, and in his invented world, total absence of love for language could only be a characteristic of evil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted August 12, 2004 Russian or Cantonese. I already know Japanese and French pretty well, and a bit of Portuguese. I'd like to learn Russian to experience the samantic paradigm shift to another root, and Cantonese because it would be nice to speak to ~20% of the world's population in their native language. 249464[/snapback] Actually Mandarin is 20%... Cantonese is the minority... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Picard 12 Posted August 12, 2004 Black Speech. Me is a fan of Mordor and Sauron. I speak German, English and a bit French, that should be enough, though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaleman 0 Posted August 13, 2004 I forgot about this but thought a few of you might want it, it's a dictionary which my friend 'Mrs, Weyoun' gave to me that she said is about as thorough as you get, but there's also another site which might have additional info: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/ Umm, ok, i tried posting the dictionary, but for some reason i'm not being allowed to . Anyone want it i might be able to PM it to ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragingtarg 0 Posted August 17, 2004 I guess I'd wanna learn Vulcan most. But I'll go for Latin for now, I already now how to say 'Your fly is open.' Though I still have no idea when I'll be able to use that in actual conversation o.O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted August 17, 2004 Semper ubi sub ubi. Latin for "always where under where" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoveMalePecs1 0 Posted August 17, 2004 I wouldn't mind trying to learn Elvish since i saw all 3 LOTR films that and maybe also learning to speak Spanish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
