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On 5/18/2017 at 10:27 PM, Bethlehem said:

the trailer gives me hope and excitement. Now to find out how I am going to watch it.

Me, too, although I will probably cave in and pay for cbs all access. I still do not like the new look of the Klingons......

If I recall the digital Gorn was more agile, and so Kirk would not have had a chance in the episode

'Arena.' I also see the original series Gorn as the legitimate version of the Gorn.

However, I like the TNG version of the Klingons, and hope that will be retained in Star Trek Discovery.

My mother has rediscovered Laramie with Slim and Jess, and watches it all the time. I remember most of the shows mentioned above

except Wanted....

I enjoyed how satisfied McCoy was with himself after he figured out how to heal the Horta with that cement.

Well, some of the fan fiction has used the Guardian. For example, Star Trek: Of Gods and Men and Star Trek New Voyages: Mind Sifter both extrapolated from old episodes and used the Guardian

for further 'what if' scenarios. Of Gods and Men had a middle-aged Charlie X use the Guardian to change everything, and the Klingon Mind Sifter was used on Kirk who was then tossed through the Guardian

the New Voyages episode.  Both made for pretty good stories. I agree that there is so much more potential for episodes or movies with the Guardian.

What about this, AE.....you know those emails from foreign countries that ask for money for all kinds of personal catastrophes? Well I received an email from a friend saying something sad had happened. This was an out of state friend

and professional colleague so I emailed her back to say I was praying for her and to let me know if there was anything I could do.  As I left work it occurred to me to just call her....and lo, nothing was wrong! Plus, she had been getting calls all day from friends, and was in the process of investigating how she had been hacked.

The next day I received an email reply to the email I had sent, supposedly replying from my friend. According to the letter my friend was stuck in a foreign country was ill, and needed thousands of dollars, and oh...she was so embarrassed to have to ask for this money.

Now that reply site has been sent out to our IT people as a phishing site. But there is no restraint on these people.

You just got an America version!

The uniforms look closer to Enterprise than TOS.

Hmm......a young Harry Mudd. I heard there would also be a young Sarek.

Yeah, I guess we do have to just wait and see. I am not that comfortable with what I am seeing but I don't want to get negative like I have already seen or heard in other sources.m

I read a couple of comments at startrek.com, and they are already negative. I have to admit I am wondering why they are naming a female character 'Michael,' but I am willing to wait and hope. There were comments about political correctness and so forth. I hope the present political climate does not creep into Star Trek discussions here. That's what Off Topic Discussions are for.  Of course I made this comment....

Are you sure they are klingons and not some other new race?

I am going to see the movie today, weather perem

Anyone want to discuss this one or just collectively try to forget it happened...??? Once again it started off just fine only without a great Star Trek Moment ( Kirk's Father sacrificing himself so his wife, son & crew would survive)-- was going just fine until we discover one of the "bad guys" is Khan... then it seems the writers ran out of new ideas -- I really didn't enjoy the role reversals and basic new spin on Wrath of Khan ( done badly ). Did anyone else notice the Data like Android on the bridge? Guess we have positronics real early now, along with weapons that can fire while in warp fields. Oh, and as I said years ago-- I kinda like the new sets-- including the chrome speed boat throttle. Only now, the effects of jumping to warp is way way too comic-- like the road runner ..beep..beep... And although the whirlwind transporter effects are better than the 1960s-- they should have stuck with the classic Trek Movie effects of the splitting & separating light beams...

I am going to see the movie today, weather permitting. I will let you know what I think if I have time. I stand by my comments on the previous film, but did find out who the bad guy was through looking at various interviews and reviews.It made me curious as to what they were going to do. For some reason they do not have a lot of respect for the original Star Trek.

I think it would be great if we could have a 506 Reunion June 27th 2013 starting around 3pm and climaxing at 5:06 the goal of course is to set a new record.. this can only be achieved by the support of all members that were here THEN + new members.... what do you think?? and would there be any record of the registered members that were on-line THEN?

It's a nice idea, but how would you get in touch with everyone? I know I have just been too busy to keep up as I once did, and unless someone reminds me, I am apt to forget to show up even now!

Hope it works, though.

More than once a day, but not excessively!

My deepest condolences to his loved ones.

Lupus is so poorly diagnosed, and varies in the the effectiveness of those being treated. Charles Kuralt died of Lupus, I believe. But my aunt is in her eighties and has it.

So...I was pleasantly shocked about this romance. You know you're a HUGE Trekkie if you were born in the 80s but you've been waiting since the 60s for certain things to happen. There's been debate for ages about Spock and Uhura, from their singing in "Charlie X" to every time Spock paid her a compliment to entire fansites dedicated to nothing but these two. The actors were grateful it happened, and Leonard Nimoy has even gone so far as to say he was "jealous" and that he would never forgive the writers and directors for depriving him of Uhura for the last 40 years.

 

I for one am deeply thankful that we finally see Uhura in a solid relationship with someone actually worthy of her. There was no better choice than Spock. There are many reasons for my thankfulness, which this blogger lists and analyzes perfectly: http://rawles.livejournal.com/340736.html?thread=6239744 (I highly recommend reading it. She's a witty writer).

 

Very rarely I have read disapproval of this pairing on the net. For the most part, I've read, "It's about time" and how this pairing is, for lack of a better term, "logical."

 

I hope the writers don't get caught up in their phenomenal success and screw everything up. If they do something dumb like make Spock (or Uhura) really emo and initiate an unnecessary break up, they should die. If anything, they should give us flashbacks as to how these two got together, because in the movie they just threw it at us as if to say, "Suck on that for a minute."

 

Either way, it's great this finally happened, in a time when there's no stupid societal barrier tampering with our beloved franchise.

I read the blog you linked to .... it can be so tiresome to have people substitute profanity for adjectives. But I think the problem with the Spock/Uhura thing is in part the confusion with what the franchise is planning to do with Vulcans.

It is as if the folks running the franchise can't deal with the Vulcan culture that has developed over the years, and is attempting to make them more human. Wiping out most of the Vulcans ( all but about 10,000) gives those running the franchise freedom to do most anything, which is unfortunate. The various alien cultures that have developed over the years in the Star Trek saga have allowed for

many deep and poignant episodes in which the human condition was analyzed, because there were well-developed non-human cultures to contrast it with, while still telling a good story.

Whether or not Rodenberry wanted to develop the relationship between Spock and Uhura all along is not the point either. If he had the freedom to do so, he would have found a way to do so within the culture of Vulcan he developed...not like what we saw of the Vulcan culture in the new movie. Sarek would never have confessed his feelings for Spock's mother to Spock, nor understodd that Spock needed to hear him say that. This Spock seems to operate outside the pon farr.

In light of the comments in blog, the most radical relatioship presented in the Star Trek universe was

Sisko in DS9 having longstanding loving relationships with two black women. Ususally Star Trek seemed to enjoy putting its major black characters in interracial relationships. In that the new Spock/Uhura thing is actually consistent.

I think Michael Jackson never grew up, and never made adult decisions. Look at his extravagant spending, and inability to live within his huge income. Look at the whole concept of Neverland. I think his problem with children was another aspect of this. As a child I was rarely in bed with my parents ( only during thunderstorms at a very young age) but I was often in bed with other children...visiting relatives and friends from out-of-state. I remember one time when my sister and I, a friend from out- of- state, a cousin from out-of -state, and a local cousin from town who wanted to join the fun were put in the same bed for a few days during the visits. It took us forever to go to sleep, and that first night my visiting cousin had managed to slip a boiled egg under my pillow. It caused quite a brouhaha the next day...the height of silliness in retrospect. I think in Michael Jackson's mind, this is what he was doing. I do not think this is healthy, but I do not quite believe he was a pedophile.

I do feel sorry for his family for their loss, but they have been in the public eye for a long time, and through Michael Jackson's many trials and tribulations. I do not believe they were completely taken by surprise, especially not his mother.

I just recently watched the special features disc for season 4 and in it there was mention that there were plans to make Shran a member of the Enterprise crew in season 5.

 

Way to start my day off on the wrong foot. Thanks. :)

 

Although Shran was a captain and a very strong-headed command kind of guy. I would have a hard time seeing him being a subordinate to Archer! And T'Pol. They wouldn't knock her out of the first officer's spot, would they?

I can't see Shran in a subordinate role either. But it would have been interesting to see the Andorians, humans, and Vulcans trying to work together with their different tempraments.

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I do not see this reality being 'fixed', and like many fans of TOS, it leaves me with a sense of loss. But it still felt like Star Trek to me, not Star Wars or anything else.

 

What causes me to feel hopeful and excited is the bit of Star Trek that I think survived. I think 'friendship' is what survived the alternate timeline.

 

I think Spock prime (the TOS Spock)in some sense 'fixed' what he could by intervening and re-estabishing the friendship that defined his life, by working first with Kirk, who he knew exactly how to get to do what he should, and later with 'himself'.

 

The most compelling part of the movie for me was Spock rescuing the exiled Kirk right after watching the destruction of Vulcan. In a way it was like the 'best of times, worst of times' experiences Jim Kirk had on Star Trek II, losing Spock.

 

How could Nero possibly know that when he stranded Spock on that planet to helplessly watch the destruction of Vulcan, to break his Vulcan heart, that also a restoring event would occur? Of all the people in the universe to see on that desolate hopeless world was his long dead dear friend Jim Kirk, alive again and in the strength of his youth! Vulcan destroyed, but then here was the friend of his life, Jim Kirk. It was a powerful moment, as Spock began restoring the role Jim was to fulfill as captain of the Enterprise, and fix the relationship between him and Spock. That whole scene was very 'Star Trek' to me, in spite of everything in the film that made me uncomfortable.

( And yes...the stuff with making cadets Star Fleet officers was ridiculous ... couldn't they have thought that through? Couldn't they have gone to just on Star Trek fan site and talked it out?)

 

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Well, I know that a lot of people don't want it "fixed" but I do. At least to the point where Vulcan doesn't get destroyed, Amanda survives and personalities/relationships are what they're supposed to be.

 

Spock doesn't go around having flings with lower ranking officers, he has his betrothed still on Vulcan and it's Nurse Chapel that's hot for him.

 

I was watching it again the other night and something that just didn't seem right finally came to me. When little Spock gets into the fight and Sarek has to come talk to him, he mentions that being the 'Ambassador to Earth' made it logical to marry Amanda. Sarek wasn't the 'Ambassador to Earth' though, he was the Vulcan Ambassador to the United Federation of Planets.

 

I know, it's a minor detail but to me it just shows a lack of caring about the subject matter that they get those little things wrong.

Still have seen only parts of the first years of DS9, but have seen all of the others.

I avoid social networking sites. Too many e-mails, contacts, etc.

I liked Chris Pine's portrayal of Kirk, but I liked the others also. I thought the acting was good. It could have been that I was so drawn in, looking for 'old friends' that I have not yet turned a critical eye. The acting made these characters alive once more to me.

I am going back to the theater one more time before I make myself wait for the DVD.

The second time I saw it I had to make myself leave the theater after my showing was over. I was at one of those modern theaters that has lots of shows running at the same time. Star Trek was playing at different times in dfferent screens. When I came out of the 2 o'clock showing, I noticed the 3 o'clock showing was still running, and I almost went in to catch the last hour again. There were virtually no theater workers around. But I did not. I plan to see it at the theater one more time, and then wait for the DVD, which I will purchase.

I agree that it felt like Star Trek. As a fan of my favorite series TOS, I am aware of the departures from established facts, and of many glitches in the new time line, but I want to see more adventures of this Enterprise.

I reserve judgment on the new characters, but I think the old friendships will make it seem like old times as we watch their new adventures.

Still James Tiberius Kirk. He's a born leader, which was one of my favorite things about him in TOS. In spite of his recklessness he was still right about what should be done after the Vulcan tragedy. His instincts are still right. I would want to serve on his ship (but not in proximity to him). If my sister had been alive to see it, I'm pretty sure she would still prefer Mr. Spock, although express concern about the fact that he seemed more human.