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Water Flowed Recently on Mars, NASA Scientists Say
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 24 August 2005
07:57 pm ET
Small gullies on Mars were carved by water recently and would be prime locations to look for life, NASA scientists said today.
There have been many studies of Martian gullies that concluded water was involved. But most of the features are ancient, or if they seemed modern then there were questions about how the water could stay liquid long enough to do the carving.
Scientists know there is a lot of water ice on Mars, locked up at the poles and beneath the surface elsewhere.
Water is a key ingredient for life as we know it, and other scientists have speculated that life on Mars, if there is any, could lurk just beneath the surface where ice melts in pockets.
A closer look
The new study suggests water may still bubble to the surface of Mars now and then, flow for a short stretch, then boil away in the thin, cold air.
The conclusion is based on computer modeling of the atmosphere and how water would behave.
"The gullies may be sites of near-surface water on present-day Mars and should be considered as prime astrobiological target sites for future exploration," said Jennifer Heldmann, the lead researcher from NASA's Ames Research Center. "The gully sites may also be of prime importance for human exploration of Mars because they may represent locations of relatively near surface liquid water, which can be accessed by crews drilling on the red planet."
Any potential long-term human presence on Mars would require a water source, both for drinking and to be broken down into hydrogen as fuel for return flights.
The claim that water carved the gullies is based on the shape and size of features spotted by NASA's Mars Global Surveyor.
Short gullies
"If liquid water pops out onto Mars' surface, it can create short gullies about 550-yards (500-meters) long," Heldmann said in a statement. "We find that the short length of the gully features implies they did form under conditions similar to those on present-day Mars, with simultaneous freezing and rapid evaporation of nearly pure liquid water."
Some of the gullies taper off into very small debris fields or leave no debris at all. That implies the water rapidly froze or evaporated.
Given the low air pressure on Mars, water would boil in a flash, the researchers say, so it is doubtful that ice accumulates in the gullies.
The findings will be presented next month at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society's Division for Planetary Sciences in Cambridge, England.
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Boost to CO2 mass extinction idea
By Helen Briggs
BBC News science reporter
A computer simulation of the Earth's climate 250 million years ago suggests that global warming triggered the so-called "great dying".
A dramatic rise in carbon dioxide caused temperatures to soar to 10 to 30 degrees Celsius higher than today, say US researchers.
The warming had a profound impact on the oceans, cutting off oxygen to the lower depths and extinguishing most lifeforms, they write in the latest issue of Geology.
The research adds to the growing body of evidence that higher temperatures, rather than a giant space rock hitting the planet, led to the greatest mass extinction in history.
Prehistoric extinction
The extinction, at the end of the Permian Period and the beginning of the Triassic, has puzzled scientists for many years.
Trilobites were one of the groups wiped out in the extinction
Some 95% of lifeforms in the oceans became extinct, along with about three-quarters of land species.
Many possible reasons for this catastrophic event have been proposed - including impacts, volcanism, climate change and glaciation. Hard evidence, however, has been difficult to find.
The latest data from scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) in Boulder, Colorado, supports the view that extensive volcanic activity over the course of hundreds of thousands of years released large amounts of carbon dioxide and sulphur dioxide into the air, gradually warming up the planet.
Deep impact
The NCAR team used a research tool known as the Community Climate System Model (CSSM) which looks at the combined effects of atmospheric temperatures, ocean temperatures and currents.
PERMO-TRIASSIC EXTINCTION
The greatest of all Earth's mass extinctions occurred about 250 million years ago
About 95% of marine species and three-quarters of all families on the Pangean (above) landmass perished
Rocks from the end of the Permian period can be seen today in places such as China, Italy and Pakistan
Chief suspects include sea-level fluctuations, volcanic activity, space impacts and melting methane-ice in sea sediments
Their work indicates that temperatures in higher latitudes rose so much that the oceans warmed to a depth of about 3,000m (10,000ft).
This interfered with the circulation process that takes colder water, carrying oxygen and nutrients, into lower levels. The water became depleted of oxygen and was unable to support marine life.
"The implication of our study is that elevated CO2 is sufficient to lead to inhospitable conditions for marine life and excessively high temperatures over land would contribute to the demise of terrestrial life," Jeffrey Kiehl and colleagues write in Geology.
Until recently, computer models of past climate have been hampered by the difficulty of accounting for complex interactions between the various components of the Earth's climate system
Professor Paul Wignall, of the University of Leeds, UK, who studies the Permian-Triassic boundary, says the models have not been sophisticated enough to recreate such "lethal super-greenhouse climates".
"I suspect many in the modelling community have been sceptical about just how bad conditions were 250 million years ago, even though the evidence is in the rocks; but now the latest climate system modelling is able to replicate climatic conditions that came close to destroying life on Earth," he told the BBC News website
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Every time I see this thread, I think, could it not have been worded better.
I don't know, I think it was my brothers watching it in rerun that got me addicted
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Begging?? B)
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I feel passionate right now. B) B)
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Rural Greyhound passengers get last boarding call
By Patrik Jonsson | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor
WINDSOR, N.C. – For the first time in as long as most people can remember, the old "silver dog" failed to stop last week in Hollywood, Fla.; Hurricane Mills, Tenn.; and Ludlow, Vt. - just a few of close to 1,000 out-of-the-way hamlets where residents can no longer leave the driving to Greyhound.
So far, 750 rural towns - and hundreds of more in-between "flag stops" in even smaller places - have lost their Greyhound connection this year. Service stopped at 81 locales last week alone, and hundreds more are expected to be dropped as the Dallas-based carrier and its subsidiaries roll out new routes across the country into 2006.
It's part of a broad restructuring of the 91-year-old long-distance carrier, which is trying to regain traction after losing $22 million in the first quarter of this year. Left in a puff of exhaust are the small towns that helped define the image of the Greyhound as a low-rent hitch that appealed to Americans' sense of adventure and earned it broad cultural recognition in everything from country songs to movies like "Midnight Cowboy."
Greyhound's new strategy: adopt faster and more direct urban routes.
But in bypassed towns like Windsor, N.C., one of 31 stops in this state that lost bus service last week, the decision compounds a sense of dislocation and increasing distance from the country's booming urban centers - not to mention the loss of a cheap ticket to the big city for many rural poor, especially in the South, for whom the Greyhound remains an important connector to country roots.
"Most people come from the country, not the city, and they have to have a way to come back for weddings and funerals, and the bus is still that way for a lot of people," says Maria Wesson of Windsor, as she packs pork barbecue sandwiches at the Duck-Thru convenience store that served as the bus stop for the past two years.
But nostalgia won't pay the bills. A recent bus that came through tiny - and now off-the-grid - Pinetops, N.C., carried a single passenger northward to New York City. To stem the slide and become more relevant, Greyhound surveyed its passengers and found a new kind of bus traveler emerging: more urban, less interested in traveling distances over 450 miles, and more concerned with speed. Lengthy, meandering routes were passengers' biggest complaint - and they also failed to attract business. In all of 2004, for example, only 121 outbound passengers used the small terminal in Humboldt, Tenn., which closed last week.
"It's never an easy decision to discontinue service to a community that you've been serving, but when customer demand is low or nonexistent, to stay in business you have to make tough decisions," says Anna Folmnsbee, a Greyhound spokeswoman.
The biggest culprit behind declining ticket sales is the car; even the poorest rural family likely has one. But, from a business point of view, Greyhound's leaving is an affirmation of many towns' decline as destinations and points of departure.
"The real reason that service has gone down is that people are leaving those communities," says Elvis Latiolais, general manager for Carolina Trailways, a Greyhound subsidiary.
Some communities could replace the lost service through rural transportation grants from the Federal Transit Administration. Yet in April, before departing for a new post, FTA chief Jennifer Dorn warned state transportation officials: "Rural service is no longer a certainty."
The silver coach became a key plot twist in major life events, from elopements to enlistments to the journeys of budding small-town starlets trying their luck in Hollywood. For artists, the Greyhound has long been a symbolic way to depict a unique American wanderlust: Sometimes as a way out, often as a way home.
"Greyhound really brought America as a whole together, and it's always been more of an adventure than riding the train," says Gene Nicolelli, the director of the Greyhound Bus Origin Center, a museum in Hibbing, Minn.
The company, which first started making runs in 1914, did what the railroad couldn't by connecting flourishing small towns off the main railline. In the process, every American could take part in Manifest Destiny, riding on the cheap through the Rockies or dozing through Mississippi's cotton fields.
But since 1970, the Greyhound has gradually lost its importance and appeal. Ridership is down to 40 million from a 1970 high of 130 million. Where once the Greyhound stopped in 17,000 communities, it today pulls into only 6,000.
It's still a great way to ride, says Samuel Avent, waiting to catch a bus in Rocky Mount, N.C., a small Greyhound hub that remains active. "There's no wear on your car, you leave the driving to some one else, you have something to eat - and mostly you sleep," he says, leaning his head back and closing his eyes by way of example.
Back in Pinetops, antiques shop owner Patricia Webb can no longer enjoy watching for the new stranger to step off the bus - always a good topic of conversation for across-the-counter gossip.
But more deeply, the end of the route means that little Pinetops, a struggling eastern North Carolina town of mostly African-Americans and older whites, where the bus stopped in front of the police station, is increasingly irrelevant to the world at large. "It's another sign that small towns like ours are being left behind," says Ms. Webb.
The route of Trailways driver Leonard Cofield wound past live oak swamps, tobacco shacks and Princeville, N.C., where he used to get a barbecue sandwich and chat up the locals.
The route has been discontinued. Instead, Carolina Trailways is adding new service to Wilmington and Charlotte, N.C., and Richmond, Va., most of them express buses and direct routes. Mr. Cofield, for one, bemoans the end of his own rural, two-lane line.
"It was a great route," he says. "I'm sad to see it go."
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Updated: 08:00 AM EDT
Earth's Core Spinning Faster Than Crust
By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP
WASHINGTON (Aug. 26) - The giant iron ball at the center of the Earth appears to be spinning a bit faster than the rest of the planet.
The solid core that measures about 1,500 miles in diameter is spinning about one-quarter to one-half degree faster, per year, than the rest of the world, scientists from Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign report in Friday's issue of the journal Science.
The spin of the Earth's core is an important part of the dynamo that created the planet's magnetic field, and researcher Xiaodong Song said he believes magnetic interaction is responsible for the different rates of spin.
The faster spin of the core was proposed in 1996 by two of the current study's authors, Paul Richards of Lamont-Doherty and Song, now an associate professor at Illinois.
The researchers studied the travel times of earthquake waves through the Earth, analyzing what are called couplets. Those are earthquakes that originate within a half-mile or so of one another but at different times.
They analyzed 30 quakes occurring in the South Atlantic and measured at 58 seismic stations in Alaska and found differences in the travel times and shape of the waves, indicating differences in the core as the waves passed through the center of the Earth.
Analyzing those differences, they calculated that the core is spinning slightly faster than the rest of the planet and is a bit lumpy.
That solid inner core is surrounded by a fluid outer core about 4,200 miles across.
Since the planet is divided into 360 degrees of longitude, a core spinning one-quarter to one-half degree faster than the outer surface could take between 700 and 1,400 years to get one full revolution ahead.
But Song said in a telephone interview that he expected that rate to vary over time and sometimes the core might be spinning slower than the rest of the planet.
"What we see right now is a snapshot of a long time process between the magnetic field and the inner core," he said. "I do expect to see this rate change with time."
"What is surprising for us is that we could actually see it in such a short time scale," he said, noting the measurements had been made over less than a decade.
Geologists are used to thinking in terms of thousands or millions of years for geological processes, he said.
The work was funded by the U.S. National Science Foundation and the Natural Science Foundation of China.
08/25/05 14:40 EDT
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This is hard, as I like his odd, quirky, yet somewhat lush looking films.
I'd say Time Bandits though.
Simply because of good memories of watching it with my Dad, and how hard we would laugh over the stupidest things in it.
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The ones that are sold and those home made ones tend to be the wrong colour and are ludicrously oversized. They look ill-fitting and ridiculous.StarTrek.COM features uniforms for sale on it's website.
Check these out. TOS shirts. One sold out just now, but it'll be in stock eventually I'm sure:
No offense to anyone who has these shirts, but the fabric is way too shiny, thus showing it's cheapness. They most likely cost them $5 - $9 to make and are making a killing on them.
You can get a much better one at a fabric store. B) B)
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I have a bit of a side sewing business Wally, so I completely understand what you are saying here.
To get a good quality costume it will have to be done with thought and some money.
Whether or not Joe knows someone who will make it for him, or if they will hire out, I'm not sure.
Last year I made a "Link" costume for someone, and it was very frustrating in getting things "just right". It definitely took time to go and find all the exact materials to replicate it to the wearers satisfaction.
In fact, they have just recently asked me to make another one for them, just a differenent variant. B) B)
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King, now you're proving my point, not yours. B) B)
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King, what you see on a website and what they are like once they're taken out of their cheap plastic wrappers when they get home are two different things.
Obviously you've never had the experience of buying something from cataloge or the net and then getting it home and it's nothing like what you thought it would be.
Joe, I suggest you hire someone to make the costumes for you, and be an active participant in it. Meaning, ask for fabric samples and color samples and choose.
I'm sure there's someone at Paramount costumes who give you exact colors that were used in costumes so that you can get very close to color. The difficulty with color matching is that the fabrics are done in dye lots, thus there are subtle differences with each dye lot, meaning colors will never be exact. Also I suspect that the colors were made especially for the show, and so once the show is over, it will be most likely that that dye has been retired.
It may cost you more, but having them tailor made simply means they'll be far superior than others out there.
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Well yes, that would be the fault of the person PURCHASING those items, would it not?
Not the fault of the person sewing them.
So how many home made have you seen and how many real have you seen?
Meaning how can you compare from a photo and a television screen
Different mediums.
Also, the ones that are ill fitting are made by those who don't know how to sew OR, they are the ones bought over the net and are unisize.
Meaning for someone who is in good shape, the belly won't look unusually large, or the crotch won't hang low, or the sleeves won't be too long.
If you have the costume tailor made, those things won't happen.
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I beg your pardon King, but a "homemade" costume is tailored to fit you perfectly.
Buying something off the net will not fit you as well as something made especially for you.
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Takara has a good point.
Right now fabric shops are getting in good sturdy, warm fabrics for fall sewing.
The colors will be very close to Trek colors and hopefully you can find something soft and comfy but sturdy.
Summer is NOT a good time to find fabrics.
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blog
Definition
blog
A frequent, chronological publication of personal thoughts and Web links.
Information
A blog is often a mixture of what is happening in a person's life and what is happening on the Web, a kind of hybrid diary/guide site, although there are as many unique types of blogs as there are people.
People maintained blogs long before the term was coined, but the trend gained momentum with the introduction of automated published systems, most notably Blogger at blogger.com. Thousands of people use services such as Blogger to simplify and accelerate the publishing process.
Blogs are alternatively called web logs or weblogs. However, "blog" seems less likely to cause confusion, as "web log" can also mean a server's log files.
These are here under personal logs Wally. B)
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Scientist finds secret Renaissance ingredient
Tiny pieces of glass shown to give paintings special glow
National Gallery of Art via AP
Venetian artist Lorenzo Lotto's "Saint Catherine." A senior conservation scientist at the National Gallery of Art discovered artists had mixed tiny bits of glass with their pigments, which enhanced the glint of the colors.
Updated: 9:53 a.m. ET Aug. 25, 2005
WASHINGTON - How did paintings by Tintoretto and other Venetian Renaissance artists get their special glow?
Using an electron microscope, Barbara Berrie, senior conservation scientist at the National Gallery of Art, discovered one of their secrets: tiny bits of glass the artists mixed with their pigments.
“By looking beyond the limits of their usual practice and transforming materials from other trades to their painting, the great artists of the Renaissance created a palette that gave them an immediate and lasting reputation as brilliant colorists,” Berrie said.
It was long thought that Venetian painters, glassmakers and ceramic designers each had their own ways of concocting paints and dyes, probably getting the ingredients through apothecaries, as in most of Europe.
But Louisa Matthew, head of the Visual Arts Departments at Union College in Schenectady, N.Y., found evidence that Venice developed a special market for dyes and pigments a century before other European areas did.
She was poring through the Venetian archives for information on how local artists did business. Among the dusty wills and tax records, she came upon an inventory of 102 items drawn up after the death of shop owner Domenico de Gardignano. He is identified in Italian as “dai colori” — “among the men in the color business.”
“There are certain pigments that contain glass mentioned in the 1534 inventory, but by no means all,” Matthew said. “Because (customers) were all buying colorants in the same place, we hypothesize that they traded ideas and ingredients including materials not on the shelf.”
People from many different trades bought supplies at de Gardignano’s shop and were likely to have shared both ideas and materials, Matthew surmised.
That possibility led to Berrie’s examination of paint samples under an electronic microscope. She discovered rounded bits of powdered glass, only thousandths of an inch thick, in two paintings by Lorenzo Lotto — one in a red gown worn by St. Catherine, another in an orange-red coat worn by Joseph in a Nativity scene.
Glass was also discovered in a yellow pigment used in a Tintoretto painting of Jesus at the Sea of Galilee.
“They’re also teaching me a lesson: to try to go beyond the bounds of what I know and what I think is right,” Berrie said. “It’s a good trick for an old artist to teach a new scientist something.”
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Scientists discover flea fossil
The flea-like creatures lived 410 million years ago
Fossils of a tiny creature which lived before the existence of dinosaurs have been found in Aberdeenshire.
The tiny relics which are less than two millimetres long are the remains of cladocerans, or water fleas, which lived 410 million years ago.
Experts at the National Museum of Scotland said the discovery, in the world-renowned cherts sediments at Rhynie, was of global importance.
They said it explained the mystery of what the first freshwater fish fed on.
The previously oldest known cladoceran, which was found in 1991, dated back to early Cretaceous times, and is about 300 million years younger than the Scottish fossil.
These latest fossil forms were found by a team of German palaeontologists who had travelled to the Rhynie cherts in Aberdeenshire to look for plant fossils.
This is an unusual animal in an unusual setting and something that we don't have a fossil record of
Dr Lyall Anderson
NMS
They were then passed on to Dr Lyall Anderson of NMS and his team for identification.
"We are used to going out and looking for plant and animal fossils, but this is an unusual animal in an unusual setting and something that we don't have a fossil record of," said Dr Anderson.
"Normally we get about one or two fossils, but we have about 40 of this species.
"We believe that they were what the first freshwater fish were feeding on at the time, which has been a bit of a mystery until now."
Feathery antennae
Researchers have named the freshwater crustaceans Ebullitiocaris oviformis. This relates to the creatures' egg-like shape and the fact they were found in a hot spring.
The species swam upright by pulsating their feathery antennae and are thought to have died out during the process of evolution.
The world-renowned cherts sediments at Rhynie were laid down by hot springs and geysers when Scotland was affected by volcanic activity.
When the waters erupting from the geysers cooled, they preserved plants and animals in three-dimensional detail.
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Google unveils long-rumored IM service
Google Talk offers both text messaging and voice chat
Updated: 12:02 a.m. ET Aug. 24, 2005
MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. - Further expanding beyond its roots in Internet search, Google Inc. plans to launch a long-rumored program Wednesday that provides both text instant messaging and computer-to-computer voice chat.
The new program, Google Talk, will compete against similar free services offered for several years by America Online Inc., Microsoft Corp. and Yahoo Inc. All are vying to increase their presence on PCs to boost online ad revenue and name recognition. (MSNBC is a Microsoft - NBC joint venture.)
The launch was due to come two days after Google unveiled another free program that aggregates information on a computer desktop. It also comes less than a week after the company announced plans to raise $4 billion in a secondary stock offering — which some analysts speculated could be used to fund far-flung projects such as Internet telephony.
As a newcomer to messaging, Google could face an uphill battle.
AOL’s messaging program has about 41.6 million U.S. users, followed by Yahoo Messenger with 19.1 million and MSN Messenger with 14.1 million, according to ComScore Media Metrix’s July report.
Users of those services are unlikely to switch unless the friends and colleagues on their “buddy lists” do the same. The top instant messaging services still do not communicate with each other, though promises of such “interoperability” have been made for years.
Open-standard, simple interface
Google based its software on open standards, so it will work with smaller networks that are based on the same technology. Text messages can be exchanged with users of Apple Computer Inc.’s iChat, Cerulean Studios’ Trillian and the open-source Gaim program.
Google also is inviting programmers to build its technology into their software.
“It means other people and developers will be able to add value to our network by being able to add this to computer games, productivity applications and anywhere else they want,” said Georges Harik, director of product management at Google.
The new Google program features a basic user interface with few graphics, much like the main Google search site. It does not spawn pop-up windows or display ads like America Online’s Instant Messenger.
“We’ll have an uncluttered interface that allows you to search over your contacts pretty easily,” Harik said. “It just stays out of your way unless you want to connect to someone.”
Google Talk, which is being released in a beta test version, works only on PCs running Windows 2000 and Windows XP. Eventually, the company plans to release a version for Apple’s Mac OS X.
Google Talk also requires users to have an account with the company’s free Gmail e-mail system. Gmail previously was available only to those invited by a current account holder, but now Google is opening up registration to anyone in the United States.
Calls to regular phones not supported
Voice chat requires that both the caller and recipient have speakers and a microphone hooked up to their computers. It does not currently offer an adapter to which regular phones can be connected.
And unlike Internet phone services such as Vonage and Skype, Google’s voice service does not support calls to the regular telephone system.
Harik also made clear that Google has no intention of trying to become a popular bridge to the other major instant-messaging providers. “We’re not going to do anything like force other networks to interoperate with us,” he said. “We’re not going to arbitrarily break into their protocols.”
However, since Google Talk runs on open standards, outside developers who incorporate the service into their programs could try to enable such interoperability.
Because of Google’s large and loyal user base, the company’s foray into instant messaging could threaten the other players, said Sara Radicati, head of The Radicati Group Inc., a technology research firm. As evidence, Radicati cited Google’s entry into e-mail, when it became chic to have a Gmail account.
“We’ve seen people show off their Google address,” she said. “It’s on the level of ‘Hey, look at my new Swatch. I’ve got the yellow one while you’re still wearing the blue.’ ... It’s a little thing, but it helps.”
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Debris Site Holds New Clues to Titanic Disaster
LONDON (Aug. 23) - Explorers have found a previously unknown site scattered with artefacts from the Titanic that could shed new light on the final moments of the world's most famous ocean liner.
"We found a new debris field about 900 metres south of the stern, which supports my long-standing belief that the Titanic began to break apart and sink further south than where she currently sits," expedition leader G. Michael Harris said on Tuesday.
Harris, whose grandfather led the first wave of expeditions in the early 1980s, made the two-and-a-half mile dive with his 13-year-old son through freezing waters in a three-man submersible.
The Orlando-based team said it had discovered personal artefacts strewn across the seabed floor that included Gladstone bags, women's shoes and White Star Line china.
It also said it had found previously unseen damaged pieces of the ship's hull that are said to support Harris' theory that the Titanic rode up onto the iceberg before sinking.
Harris, who returned with hundreds of hours of film footage, believes the force of the grounding damaged the plates on the underbelly of the liner causing water to poor in.
The Titanic sank off Canada on her maiden voyage on the night of April 14, 1912, with the loss of over 1,500 passengers and crew. Theories about why and how she sank have abounded ever since.
08/23/05 16:50 ET
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How many special people change
How many lives are living strange
Where were you when we were getting high?
Slowly walking down the hall
Faster than a cannon ball
Where were you while we were getting high?
Some day you will find me
Caught beneath the landslide
In a champagne supernova in the sky
Some day you will find me
Caught beneath the landslide
In a champagne supernova
A champagne supernova in the sky
Wake up the dawn and ask her why
A dreamer dreams she never dies
Wipe that tear away now from your eye
Slowly walking down the hall
Faster than a cannon ball
Where were you when we were getting high?
Some day you will find me
Caught beneath the landslide
In a champagne supernova in the sky
Some day you will find me
Caught beneath the landslide
In a champagne supernova
A champagne supernova in the sky
Cos people believe that they're
Gonna get away for the summer
But you and I, we live and die
The world's still spinning round
We don't know why
Why, why, why, why
How many special people change
How many lives are living strange
Where were you when we were getting high?
Slowly walking down the hall
Faster than a cannon ball
Where were you while we were getting high?
Some day you will find me
Caught beneath the landslide
In a champagne supernova in the sky
Some day you will find me
Caught beneath the landslide
In a champagne supernova
A champagne supernova in the sky
Cos people believe that they're
Gonna get away for the summer
But you and I, we live and die
The world's still spinning round
We don't know why
Why, why, why, why
How many special people change
How many lives are living strange
Where were you when we were getting high?
We were getting high
We were getting high
We were getting high
We were getting high
favorite National Lampoons Vacation Movie
in Holodeck 1: 20th & 21st Century Entertainment
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I like the Griswalds Christmas movie myself