livlonganprospe 0 Posted February 26, 2004 (edited) In the movie First Contact, when Lily was looking out the window of Enterprise down towards Earth and Lily made a comment that there was no glass, then Picard says it's a force field, well then in some scenes of TNG inside the capt's. quarters, when Picard is standing next to the window, you will see a reflection of him or someone coming in the quarters. Is it a writers mistake or something else? Does the star ships have windows? Edited February 26, 2004 by livlonganprospe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Phaserman 0 Posted February 26, 2004 I think that in the scene you mentioned, they were at a point where the ship would hook up with a starbase. notice, he had to open a panel for the exterior view Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livlonganprospe 0 Posted February 26, 2004 No not that one, it's the sene when the Enterprise was in the past and the Borg was invading Earth, Lily wanted to get off the "spaceship" and Picard says hope you can hold your breath, that's when Picard showed her that it was a force field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Phaserman 0 Posted February 26, 2004 That's what I was refering to. that spot on the hull is where an umbelical might connect. (did you think I was refering to a point in the movie?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livlonganprospe 0 Posted February 26, 2004 OK! I see what you mean, I guess the force field would be around the platting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted February 26, 2004 In the movie First Contact, when Lily was looking out the window of Enterprise down towards Earth and Lily made a comment that there was no glass, then Picard says it's a force field, well then in some scenes of TNG inside the capt's. quarters, when Picard is standing next to the window, you will see a reflection of him or someone coming in the quarters. Is it a writers mistake or something else? Does the star ships have windows? In the movie, it was an airlock, not a window. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Vash 0 Posted February 27, 2004 and for the record starship windows are made of transparent aluminum not glass it ould take about 2 feet of glass to withstand the artificial gravity/atmosphere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 1 Posted February 28, 2004 Are you sure that the windows are transparent aluminum? Wouldn't make more sense for them to be transparent duranium (if such a thing exists)? Along these lines, I seem to recall the windows breaking like glass in Generations when the saucer crashes. Would it be possibly for a transparent metal to break like glass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordOfTheBorg 1 Posted February 28, 2004 (edited) actually... this would work just as well; Least Dense Solid The solid substance with the lowest density is aerogel, in which tiny spheres of bonded silicon and oxygen atoms are joined into long strands separated by pockets of air. The latest and lightest versions of this substance weigh just 1.9 mg/cm3, and are produced by the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Livermore, California, USA. The NASA/JPL image (right) perfectly illustrates aerogel's insulating properties Ð wax crayons on top of a lightweight sheet of aerogel are protected from the roaring-blue flame from a blow torch. The crayons aren't even melting! Click for Spoiler: Edited February 28, 2004 by Alterego Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted February 28, 2004 The windows are glass. It's why they're so thick and why they "shatterred" when the Enterprise-D saucer section crashed in GENERATIONS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Phaserman 0 Posted February 28, 2004 I concure with CJLP, Transparent Aluminium wouldn't shatter. it might warp, but not shatter. though I could picture the Klingons or Romulans or any warrior species using Transparent Aluminium for added hull strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted February 28, 2004 Transparent aluminum!!!! :) :) :) :) It's an airlock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted February 28, 2004 A COMBINATION OF TRELLIUM D, HIGH DENSITY POLYMERS AND SURPRISE, FIBERGLASS MIGHT WORK???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander32 0 Posted March 1, 2004 definitely glass and it has to be a forcefield in the movie scene. Cool Trek smilie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Vash 0 Posted March 3, 2004 maby it was transparent aluminun in TOS beacause I specically remember some one saying that the windows were transparent aluminun PS: I believe transparent aluminum would shatter like glass when exposed to the super cold temps in the vaccuom of space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
He Who Shall Not Be Named 2 Posted March 3, 2004 Oh come on now. What would be so exciting about Picard knocking on the window and saying "transparent aluminum"? There is also the possibility they were on an observation deck of some kind and, as such, a force field would be more appropriate there to get a better view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Vash 0 Posted March 3, 2004 if you had read the whole thing you would know that what he had shown to lily was an airlock but we were disscussing what the normal windows were made up of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xeroc 0 Posted March 3, 2004 Unfortuanately, even the ST Technical Manual doesn't say what the windows are made of. I remeber them mentioning transparent aluminum in TOS (for example when scotty was on earth and gave away the formula to gain the supplies to save the whales in ST: IV The Voyage Home) and I think transparent aluminum would probably shatter in the extreme cold of interstellar space. However, it is likely that the windows are made of some other futuristic transparent material, due to the incredible beating they would need to take to maintain structural integrity. (even with the help of the Structural Integrity Field) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Vash 0 Posted March 4, 2004 so then you will at least agree with me that they are not and could not be built out of glass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xeroc 0 Posted March 5, 2004 so then you will at least agree with me that they are not and could not be built out of glass Yes, glass would be far too weak to use in such situations as described above. It would have to be meters thick, and would be easy to puncture with weak weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites