prometheus 0 Posted April 10, 2003 Voyager, for a ship alone, always looked pristine. After every battle there was minor damage in that they never lost a nacelle (a la Relaint in Khan) or a major bulkhead. Would you have liked to have seen them struggle a bit more in the last seasons like in Year of Hell or the Equinox? A half dead crew struggling for survival years away from home really tugs at the heart strings. A blind Tuvok, a dead Seven: now that would have been drama. Never have I ever laughed or felt like crying at Voyager. I feel the actors were capable of more but the circumstances and the stories just never opened up the floodgates. Voyager was essentially a flying hotel throughout with lovely lighting and immaculate carpets. They always briefly got into trouble but you always new they would get out of it. Imagine if in season 4, a big chunk of Voyager was lost forever. That would have put a spin on the show making it darker and more dangerous. Voyager should have got home by the skin of their teeth and no more, with a heavy price to pay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ktrek Posted April 10, 2003 I agree here Prometheus! I would have liked the show more if it had been a little more realistic. I know it's not generally good to kill your stars off but it sure adds to realism and heavy drama that the fans won't forget. Voyager coming through virtually unscathed is unrealistic for sure. I wish I had liked Voyager more than I do. I'm hoping that when it's released on DVD that I will look at the show differently. Ktrek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted April 10, 2003 All right on the money prometheus. Generously speaking, I would say there were perhaps 20 noteworthy episodes in all. Here is the stickler though, I will, most likely, buy every season! I'm insane for Trek! I'm hoping that when it's released on DVD that I will look at the show differently. ME TOO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam The Smuggler 1 Posted April 10, 2003 To be honest..my older brother and I think that "Year Of Hell" would have made a Great Entire Season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~Crims~ 0 Posted April 10, 2003 Year Of Hell was amazing... but, I do think Voyager was the luckiest crew in Star Fleet history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam The Smuggler 1 Posted April 10, 2003 I do think Voyager was the luckiest crew in Star Fleet history. I'll say...being Spared from the Dominion War was enough for me to say that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaQuIs_PrInCeSs 0 Posted April 10, 2003 Everyone in the Delta Quadrent ended up hating the Voyager crew. They were always interfering with active wars and getting caught in the middle of them. But the Engineering staff always managed to make the ship look brand new. A little hard to believe, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted April 11, 2003 They had to ration food becausethe replicators supposedly used lots of power. I mean, that was how they tried to inject suffering into the show. How much power does a flippin replicater use anyway? I think having to eat Neelix's poo-poo eggs and stuff was a load of hoey. The amount of power used in phasers and lifts and stuff ,not to mention when Voyager kept getting taken over by aliens, would have made the power used replicating a bowl of soup negligible. And i thought dilithium crystals went on for ever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdigs 0 Posted April 11, 2003 I don't think they had it easy at all..It seemed that just because the ship was always proper that we assume it was easy for them. The mental anguish alone ( Am I being over dramatic) was enough to cuz un-ease..True, Janeway did float over Prime Directive enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam The Smuggler 1 Posted April 11, 2003 Oh..I read somewhere how much of the Voyager Crew was killed. Can't remeber though....Lemme find it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tank 0 Posted April 12, 2003 I agree Voyager should have been the most dangorous show, yet compared to DS9 and TNG Voyager was a joy ride most of the time. I also feel kind of the same way about Enterprise. The NX-01 is the only Human ship out as far as it is, they don't have shields, they don't have good weapons, transporters are still a new thing, ect... In TOS and even in TNG people got killed all the time. It made sense because they were doing very dangourous things. Enterprise however just isn't neer as scary as it should be. It's still a good show, I just think they should make it a bit darker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stelfan 0 Posted April 12, 2003 i definitely agree Prometheus.. Voyager just had it to got damn easy, the whole series had that feeling.. the most troublesome issue was Neelix spicy food.. And the most dangerous and fearsome enemy was...... THE KAZON?! Oh, now that is really frightening.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsbs 0 Posted April 26, 2003 I never thought of that, but it's true, Prometheus! IF they had a tiny little scratch on them, and it was always gone by the next episode (or scene for that matter). Also, TNG had more people die than VOY, I think, and they were in safe federation space half the time...I don't think I'd be happy-smilie-face if members of the crew died, but I think I'd have been happy-understanding if they had. (I don't handle death too well, though. I was even sad when Seska died and man did she annoy me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted April 26, 2003 As far a s scratches being gone by the next week, I don't think we were seeing them in real time, more than a week had passed for them. Being healed within an episode, Dermal Regenerators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsbs 0 Posted April 26, 2003 lol....I guess it's nitpicking, but how fast can they repare this ship??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syperphobia 0 Posted May 7, 2003 I think people are neglecting the logicstics of Voyager.... think about all the knowledge the people have gained in the late (what was it, 23rd century) Picard and Kirk (not to mention Archer) all survived terrible fates in their quadrant. Although that Voyager was lost, they had the spirit and determinition of kicking it through the Delta Quadrant. I believe that they made terrific allies that helped them through the way and made some daring mission tasks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takara_Soong 4 Posted May 7, 2003 Grit and determination can take you a long way. Add in a few doses of good luck and it was doable. As long as they would be able to keep their systems functioning they did have a chance. Voyager was 24th century, BTW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deagletime 1 Posted May 7, 2003 crew2 crew1 from the looks of things, it seems that the crew suffered major casualties Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ddillard 2 Posted May 7, 2003 I do agree that Voyager had it a little easy. I mean they were a great crew, but in the time they spent in the Delta quadrant we should have seen more damage to the ship. At least they could have left damage for an episode or two until they could find a friendly race or a place to put in to dock to make the repairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted September 17, 2010 Bump Watching Year of Hell on rerun and it is by far one of the best episodes of Voyager. THAT should have been what the pilot was like. The named Anorax is a bit funny though. Like jackets. We needed a darker more dramatic realistic series called Voyager. Even the name could have been better. Voyager is a bit blah. They might as well have called it Challenger or something. Storylines, for example, where a crew member has Cancer and knows he or she is going to die without ever getting to say goodbye to their loved ones. An episode where the crew are so hungry and working so hard to keep the ship going that they are bad tempered and fight. Maybe fly on the wall style like they did with Galactica ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted September 17, 2010 Not the discount store Borg Queen swanning around hissing Janeway and swinging her hips ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
He Who Shall Not Be Named 2 Posted September 18, 2010 For all we know right before Endgame the entire rew died except for the main characters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted September 18, 2010 ... or they should have just gone the whole cheesy hog and had a concussed Janeway wake up (bun and all) in the Badlands with her First Officer helping her up saying "are you all right mamn" and her croaking "I had the stangest dream ..." [ouch] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites