Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 3, 2003 Star Trek: First Contact EMH makes a cameo in Sickbay with Dr. Crusher. Star Trek: Nemesis Admiral Janeway makes a cameo on a view screen with Captain Picard. What did you all think of the 2 cameos? I loved both, and with ST:FC, it was a full surprise, where as with ST:N, I knew it word for word, but loved seeing her on the big screen. My Dad hates Janeway, so I got a kick out of her being thrown in his face like that! Anywho, anyone notice that in ST:FC, it's TNG & VOY doctors where as in ST:N it's TNG & VOY captains? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 8 Posted July 3, 2003 I enjoyed the two cameos. I especially enjoyed the Doctor's line, "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop." I hadn't made the connection that it was Voy and TNG doctors and captains, but that is fascinating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 3, 2003 Yeah, of all the characters for the EMH and Janeway to interract with, they chose their TNG counterparts. Oh, here's a little timeline for when the movies take place in relation to Voyager. Star Trek: Voyager - 2371-77 Star Trek: First Contact - 2373 Star Trek: Nemesis - 2379 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 8 Posted July 3, 2003 Yeah, of all the characters for the EMH and Janeway to interract with, they chose their TNG counterparts. I wonder if that was intentional? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 3, 2003 Probably. TNG & EMH doctors, then TNG & VOY captains. My question is, how come none of the DS9 characters made a cameo? ST:FC was the perfect chance for a DS9 character to join Worf and the TNG crew for a movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 8 Posted July 3, 2003 True, I'm sure they had a doctor on the Defiant. Bashir could have made an appearance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 3, 2003 Exactly, he could'a had a few scenes with Dr. Crusher in sickbay and on the bridge, nothing major to detract from the TNG cast. Think about the sickbay scene though... Dr. Crusher and Dr. Bashir escaping while the EMH destracts the Borg who later show up on VOY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 8 Posted July 3, 2003 Well, yeah, they evacuated the Defiant. It's only logical that he's there. And maybe Jadzia and O'brien too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 3, 2003 Hmm... Crusher and Bashir, Data and Jadzia, LaForge and O'Brien. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 8 Posted July 3, 2003 OK, well, let's not get carried away....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdigs 0 Posted July 3, 2003 I dug the EMH and Bev..because he was actually there ( as much as a hologram can be ) Janeway appeared on a viewscreen..and that irked me..maybe Mulgrew was unable to commit to more of a cameo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goose 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Stardate:213501.8 I think i remeber reading somewhere that Colm Meany(O'Brien)was offered a chance to appear on FC on the bridge with Worf but turned it down. I also loved the line with the doctor"Im a doctor not a doorstop"very respectful to Mccoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Picard 12 Posted July 3, 2003 I liked both of the short appearances but in fact I like the EMH very much (my fave VOY char) so I think his appearance was better It is great to have some familiar VOY faces around in TNG movies... Mrs. Captain Picard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quark 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Yeah, it was nice to see Janeway after May 2001. I was wondering what she was up to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessa_Soong 0 Posted July 3, 2003 I'm not sure if you would count this as a cameo, but Ethan Phillips, who played Neelix, was in FC as the host in the Holodeck scene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ezri Dax 0 Posted July 3, 2003 I like cameo like that. It makes us remember that Star Trek is a universe and other things are happening around :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted July 8, 2003 Probably. TNG & EMH doctors, then TNG & VOY captains. My question is, how come none of the DS9 characters made a cameo? ST:FC was the perfect chance for a DS9 character to join Worf and the TNG crew for a movie. :) It would have confused the public and stretched the already limited lines that were available to the tng characters. Two doctors is a little surplus to requirements. Also i'm sure the DS9 'add-on' would have pushed up the budget for making the film. Film makers have to be realsitic and cannot pander to the whims of fans. They have to reach a balance between what looks good and what is feasible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 8, 2003 Do you really think the general public is stupid enough to not understand that a character from another series could join the adventure? From their point of view, he'd be a "new character", so why would they be confused, eh? However, you do have a point about the other characters getting a little less dialog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted July 9, 2003 Do you really think the general public is stupid enough to not understand that a character from another series could join the adventure? From their point of view, he'd be a "new character", so why would they be confused, eh? However, you do have a point about the other characters getting a little less dialog. Yes actually, especially when it comes to TNG. The TNG characters are neter known than the others as that series had more mainstream appeal and following. To throw in Ezri Dax may be obvious to us Trekkies but not the public at large. That is why I think that Star Trek movies need the well known characters to survive. With a DS9 based movie the general public will look and say, who are they! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 9, 2003 I disagree. I know people who aren't fans and know enough about DS9 and VOY so that if they watched a movie based on the series, they wouldn't be confused. All they have to do is make the movies stand-alone like the TOS and TNG movies so someone who didn't follow the series could enjoy it, and if the story's good enough, you just might have a winner! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted July 9, 2003 People go to the movies every day without knowing who the characters are, (unless it is a summer of sequels ) I know I've done that. If the story rocked, I don’t think it would matter to the attendees that they are looking at strangers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 9, 2003 EXACTLY! If done right, a DS9 or VOY movie could do just as well as a New Cast movie, in my opinion. It's all a matter of how the story is written and how the movie is advertised and marketted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted July 10, 2003 Here's a thought. While Picard and Janeway were talking via view screen, would anyone have liked it if Picard asked how so'n so was doing? You know, just to let us know what one of the other VOY characters was up to, like Chakotay or Seven for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Picard 12 Posted July 10, 2003 That's a good idea but I think she talked to him about a very serious fact so it would not have been "good" if he had asked: "Hey, Kathryn, how are your former Voyager buddies doin?" But it would have been great to hear something about them anyway... Mrs. Captain Picard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites