Writer hired for Trek XI

[Jack_Bauer 1]

Wirter Hired for Trek XI

 

This is an article that was posted on IGN.com a few hours ago. Seems interesting, I don't know much about Jendresen and it seems there isn't much to know. He did write 3 episodes of Band of Brothers and that was a successful miniseries. With this supposedly being a Romulan War movie, his experience may be appropriate but only time will tell.

 

Kerry McCluggage, a former head of Paramount is also involved and a supposed strong supporter of Star Trek, is also involved. I think that isn't a bad idea. Additionally, Jordan Kerner is involved and that makes me leery. He has produced over 30 films but some of them are a little suspect (Disney live action films). Here's his imdb page, and it doesn't seem like it's all bad: Jordan Kerner

 

Should be interesting. I hope Coto isn't completely shut out, I think he deserves a chance at a movie. I say pair him up with Jendresen, then you get someone who can write war and someone who can write Trek.

[HRH The KING 0]

The last two Trek movies tanked and those featured the very successful Star Trek: The Next Generation characters.

 

A new movie, produced by Rick Berman again?

 

No way should Paramount greenlight this or any Trek project under his watch and probably never give the go ahead for another big budget cinematic Trek movie which would just bomb completely.

 

They should let Berman's contract run out and not renew it.

 

I totally oppose this "new movie" suggestion.

 

B) B) :P

[sea trooper 0]

Whoo! :P

[Angela 1]

this sounds interesting, I am looking forward to seeing this.

[VaBeachGuy 12]

I remember that the IMDB had a listing for an Enterprise movie about a year ago that was scheduled to be out in 2006. The cast was the entire Star Trek Enterprise cast. They've taken those references off of the IMDB but I always found it interesting that they let that slip through the cracks for a short time.

[HRH The KING 0]

I seriously hope it isn't an ENT movie.

 

A big budget movie based on a show that flopped hardly makes me optimistic for the health of the franchise.

 

:P

[Jack_Bauer 1]

I remember that the IMDB had a listing for an Enterprise movie about a year ago that was scheduled to be out in 2006. The cast was the entire Star Trek Enterprise cast. They've taken those references off of the IMDB but I always found it interesting that they let that slip through the cracks for a short time.

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The listing still exists but doesn't include the Enterprise crew. The movie is due for release in 2007 (even though it is technically not on Paramount's release schedule). It says its a Romulan War movie and that Cliff Bole is the director. I don't know where that Cliff Bole thing came from and so it will probably change as they haven't even written the movie yet.

 

Its almost certainly a new cast for the movie.

[VaBeachGuy 12]

I remember that the IMDB had a listing for an Enterprise movie about a year ago that was scheduled to be out in 2006. The cast was the entire Star Trek Enterprise cast. They've taken those references off of the IMDB but I always found it interesting that they let that slip through the cracks for a short time.

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The listing still exists but doesn't include the Enterprise crew. The movie is due for release in 2007 (even though it is technically not on Paramount's release schedule). It says its a Romulan War movie and that Cliff Bole is the director. I don't know where that Cliff Bole thing came from and so it will probably change as they haven't even written the movie yet.

 

Its almost certainly a new cast for the movie.

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I think this must have been a different listing, it didn't mention anything about plot and was definitely casting the Enterprise crew.

[Wishfire 2]

I'm just glad to know that Paramount is seriously considering another Trek movie.

[Jack_Bauer 1]

I remember that the IMDB had a listing for an Enterprise movie about a year ago that was scheduled to be out in 2006. The cast was the entire Star Trek Enterprise cast. They've taken those references off of the IMDB but I always found it interesting that they let that slip through the cracks for a short time.

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The listing still exists but doesn't include the Enterprise crew. The movie is due for release in 2007 (even though it is technically not on Paramount's release schedule). It says its a Romulan War movie and that Cliff Bole is the director. I don't know where that Cliff Bole thing came from and so it will probably change as they haven't even written the movie yet.

 

Its almost certainly a new cast for the movie.

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I think this must have been a different listing, it didn't mention anything about plot and was definitely casting the Enterprise crew.

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Its the same imdb listing for Untitled Star Trek Prequel. They can change over time if a movie hasn't been released yet. Here it is:

Untitled Star Trek Prequel (2007)

[gul_nodrog 2]

Death to prequels in any form.

 

The only movie I want to see is Ben Sisko's return from the Celestial Temple.

 

TNG crew is burned out, plus they look ancient.

 

DS9 crew has life in 'em, but let's face it ... they're not getting any younger either.

 

I hate to see them continue in this unsuccessful vein they've been in since Star Trek Insurrection ... I can tell you that unless they can Rick Berman and his mediocre entourage, we're done with any new Trek.

[HRH The KING 0]

I can tell you that unless they can Rick Berman and his mediocre entourage, we're done with any new Trek.

 

:biggrin: :P :lol:

 

:lol:

 

I agree completely.

[TransporterMalfunction 1]

A big budget movie based on a show that flopped hardly makes me optimistic for the health of the franchise.

 

:biggrin:

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What, you mean like the original series? Star Trek was cancelled after season three and created a successful film franchise! :lol:

[HRH The KING 0]

What, you mean like the original series? Star Trek was cancelled after season three and created a successful film franchise!  

 

No, because the original series had some tremendous characters.

 

Archer, Trip and T'Porn hardly match up to the brilliance of Kirk, Bones and Spock.

 

Not to mention the supporting cast of TOS. All wonderful.

 

Besides, TOS was cancelled because it was unlike anything ever seen before, the audience for something like that was just emerging and NBC didn't know what the heck to do with the show. But over the years without Trek, people discovered it and realised how great it was. IMO, ENT was cancelled because it was terrible. I don't see it building up a great fanbase through re-runs in the years following IT'S cancellation.

 

If people didn't want to watch these dismal characters on TV, then I doubt they'll go see them on the big screen where more of Paramount's millions will be flushed down the tube. But hey, that'll be the "hat-trick" of bombs. INS, NEM and then STXI.

 

:biggrin: :lol:

Edited February 27, 2005 by The King

[TransporterMalfunction 1]

What, you mean like the original series? Star Trek was cancelled after season three and created a successful film franchise!  

 

No, because the original series had some tremendous characters.

 

Archer, Trip and T'Porn hardly match up to the brilliance of Kirk, Bones and Spock.

 

Not to mention the supporting cast of TOS. All wonderful.

 

Besides, TOS was cancelled because it was unlike anything ever seen before, the audience for something like that was just emerging and NBC didn't know what the heck to do with the show. But over the years without Trek, people discovered it and realised how great it was. IMO, ENT was cancelled because it was terrible. I don't see it building up a great fanbase through re-runs in the years following IT'S cancellation.

 

If people didn't want to watch these dismal characters on TV, then I doubt they'll go see them on the big screen where more of Paramount's millions will be flushed down the tube. But hey, that'll be the "hat-trick" of bombs. INS, NEM and then STXI.

 

:biggrin: :lol:

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ENT was cancelled because it was terrible

 

Ah, but it is all down to perception. We all know that you hate Enterprise and that is your prerogative, however every one of the points you make saying how different Enterprise is from the situation faced by TOS is based on your view and can be open to other interpretation. The majority of Star Trek fans on the streets would appear to disagree with you.

 

I think there are more similarities, especially with all the Star Trek fans campaigning to get it back on the air in a similar fashion to that done in the 60's.

[HRH The KING 0]

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We all know that you hate Enterprise and that is your prerogative,

 

You got that right

 

however every one of the points you make saying how different Enterprise is from the situation faced by TOS is based on your view and can be open to other interpretation.

 

It certainly is, but I'm going to be bold and say the affection people have for TOS will not be replicated with ENT. I don't think people care as much about ENT as they do about TOS.

 

The majority of Star Trek fans on the streets would appear to disagree with you.

 

I disagree. I think ENT's fanbase is a relatively small hardcore group. I think the majority of Trek fans either are vehemently Anti-ENT like me, or don't really care one way or another about it, they just ignore it.

 

I think there are more similarities, especially with all the Star Trek fans campaigning to get it back on the air in a similar fashion to that done in the 60's.

 

They are under a delusion that they are fighting for a cause as popular and worthy as the one the Trimble's carried out. The rallies attracted laughable numbers and some of the views expressed on the Brazaelian sites border on insanity. Their campaign to fund a new season was doomed from the start. Their conspiracy theories are very funny. Their conduct towards those with opposing views is hilarious and very sad at the same time.

 

:P :biggrin: :lol:

 

:lol:

Edited February 27, 2005 by The King

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It certainly is, but I'm going to be bold and say the affection people have for TOS will not be replicated with ENT. I don't think people care as much about ENT as they do about TOS.

 

That is a very bold statement as you say, however I think the fact that people are motivated to campaign by setting up websites, forums and go out on the street, show that people do like Enterprise. It is only a minority of spoilt brats within the fan base who actively hate Enterprise and have no concern about the rest of fandom or the franchise, and by that I don't mean those people who dislike the show (I have not been the most keen on every version of the franchise) but those people who actually go so far as to bitterly campaign against it. Other shows such as Doctor Who have in the past suffered from this sort of "fan" and eventually the entire franchise time-bombed for 16 years.

 

They are under a delusion that they are fighting for a cause as popular and worthy as the one the Trimble's carried out. The rallies attracted laughable numbers and some of the views expressed on the Brazaelian sites border on insanity. Their campaign to fund a new season was doomed from the start. Their conspiracy theories are very funny. Their conduct towards those with opposing views is hilarious and very sad at the same time.

 

So you think Star Trek fans are sad and laughable? Isn't that a bit of an overgeneralization? A very interesting comment from a self proclaimed Star Trek fan himself. :biggrin:

[HRH The KING 0]

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That is a very bold statement as you say,

 

Correct.

 

however I think the fact that people are motivated to campaign by setting up websites, forums and go out on the street, show that people do like Enterprise.

 

Certain people do like ENT, but they are a relatively small group.

 

It is only a minority of spoilt brats within the fan base who actively hate Enterprise and have no concern about the rest of fandom or the franchise, and by that I don't mean those people who dislike the show (I have not been the most keen on every version of the franchise) but those people who actually go so far as to bitterly campaign against it.

 

The Brazaelians have the right to campaign to save that show, but people like me on Kill Enterprise have the right to oppose them.

 

If SaveENT people don't like us, we don't really care.

 

The Brazaelians use "bitter" tactics like banning anyone who offers an opposing view.

 

Why don't you call them spoilt brats?

 

Other shows such as Doctor Who have in the past suffered from this sort of "fan" and eventually the entire franchise time-bombed for 16 years.

 

I don't care about Doctor Who. Never watched it, never wanted to watch it.

 

:biggrin:

 

The reason that franchise has had trouble could be the crap special effects, cheapo budget and weaknesses within the Beeb itself.

 

So you think Star Trek fans are sad and laughable?

 

I think the Brazaelian faction of the Trek fanbase are sad and laughable yes.

 

Isn't that a bit of an overgeneralization?

 

No.

 

A very interesting comment from a self proclaimed Star Trek fan himself.

 

Well, we're all self-proclaimed Star Trek fans. It's not like we are bestowed with that title by someone else.

[TransporterMalfunction 1]

That is a very bold statement as you say,

 

Correct.

 

however I think the fact that people are motivated to campaign by setting up websites, forums and go out on the street, show that people do like Enterprise.

 

Certain people do like ENT, but they are a relatively small group.

 

Funny then how the anti-Enterprise have smaller websites/messageboards and are unable to hold any events.

 

Other shows such as Doctor Who have in the past suffered from this sort of "fan" and eventually the entire franchise time-bombed for 16 years.

 

I don't care about Doctor Who. Never watched it, never wanted to watch it.

 

:biggrin:

 

The reason that franchise has had trouble could be the crap special effects, cheapo budget and weaknesses within the Beeb itself.

 

Well isn't it hypocritical to comment on something you haven't watched? I hope you formulate your views on other subjects with more care.

 

Moving on, the fan situation is very similar between Doctor Who 16 years ago and Star Trek now. There was a minority of people who actively campaigned against the show yet called themselves "fans". They disliked certain aspects of the later years and this lack of support led to the entire show being cancelled for 16 years rather than a change of Doctor (which is akin to when a Star Trek series ends and a news one begins).

 

Personally if I didn't like the show I wouldn't spend my time campaigning against it, because it is selfish and shows no consideration for those people that do like the show.

 

Anyway I'm going to say that this discussion is over so that we can get back to the original topic.