Borg Invasions

[Admiral Kirk 1]

Have you ever thought it strange that on both occasions the Borg only sent a single cube to attack Earth? We've seen in STVOY that they have thousands of cubes and the technology to send them almost anywhere. And didn't Guinan say that the Borg swarmed through her system? Doesn't a swarm constitute a lot of ships? Luckily for Starfleet they only sent one. What do you think?

[jdigs 0]

Maybe they misunderestimated us hew-mans.

[ddillard 2]

I definitely agree that the Borg underestimated humanity and our ability to defend ourselves. But thinking about it, if they had sent any more cubes we would have been doomed. Had it not been for the quick thinking of the Enterprise crew that one cube would have been enough to finish us off without any problems at all.

[Admiral Kirk 1]

Yes but they made this mistake twice.. So much for their adaptability. I detect a bit of arrogance in their thinking perhaps the writers incorporated it

[Stelfan 0]

Yes but they made this mistake twice.. So much for their adaptability.  I detect a bit of arrogance in their thinking perhaps the writers incorporated it

Definitely, the Borg don't think that anyone or anything can beat them, and surely not we miserable humans..

[ddillard 2]

Yes but they made this mistake twice.. So much for their adaptability.  I detect a bit of arrogance in their thinking perhaps the writers incorporated it

Definitely, the Borg don't think that anyone or anything can beat them, and surely not we miserable humans..

They were almost right.

[ARMS 0]

Temporal Tactics

 

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The Borg send a single borg cube to destroy the Federation fleet, as the cube is finally destroyed a sphere escapes the destruction and creates the illusion of an attempt to prevent First Contact to fool the Enterprise E crew, the sphere which was effortlessly destroyed crashed within the arctic circle, the frozen drones were recovered a hundred years later, they assimilate several people and a vessel, and contact the collective, informing them in the 22nd of humanity, the message is recieved 200 years later and the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth after hearing that Earth is a limited race of warp 5's, their initial attack with a single vessel fails due to miss information, the next time they send a vessel it is to complete the temporal loop, each time attempting to elliminate the miss information stage, before a final planned attack with an assimilation virus

[jdigs 0]

Nicely put Arms.

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1]

Temporal Tactics

 

Click for Spoiler:

The Borg send a single borg cube to destroy the Federation fleet, as the cube is finally destroyed a sphere escapes the destruction and creates the illusion of an attempt to prevent First Contact to fool the Enterprise E crew, the sphere which was effortlessly destroyed crashed within the arctic circle, the frozen drones were recovered a hundred years later, they assimilate several people and a vessel, and contact the collective, informing them in the 22nd of humanity, the message is recieved 200 years later and the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth after hearing that Earth is a limited race of warp 5's, their initial attack with a single vessel fails due to miss information, the next time they send a vessel it is to complete the temporal loop, each time attempting to elliminate the miss information stage, before a final planned attack with an assimilation virus

You just discribed a pre-destined paradox! :) Personally, I don't think those can happen.

 

Here's why:

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You have to have an "original timeline" where the Borg and Ent-E never arrived from the future, becuase, well... the future doesn't exist yet. 300 years later, the Borg show up, snooping arround, probably becuase of what they learned after assimilating the Hansens in the 2350's. Then, 8 years later, we have the movie ST:FC, which alters the timeline. The Borg and Ent-E travel back in time, messing with history, but leaving it mostly intact. This time arround, Borg wreckage from the sphere finds it's way to Earth's artic circle. 100 years later, the Borg are thawed, assimilate a transport, and head back for the collective, but in the end, are destroyed by Enterprise, but not before transmitting a subspace message - Earth's coordinates. If the Borg recieved this message, then why didn't they assimilate the Hansens when they studied a Borg Cube, eh?

 

 

Anywho, instead of a pre-destined paradox, I like to think that ST:FC and "Regeneration" simply changed the reason why the Borg became interrested in humanity, instead of creating a timeloop. B)

[ddillard 2]

Temporal Tactics

 

Click for Spoiler:

The Borg send a single borg cube to destroy the Federation fleet, as the cube is finally destroyed a sphere escapes the destruction and creates the illusion of an attempt to prevent First Contact to fool the Enterprise E crew, the sphere which was effortlessly destroyed crashed within the arctic circle, the frozen drones were recovered a hundred years later, they assimilate several people and a vessel, and contact the collective, informing them in the 22nd of humanity, the message is recieved 200 years later and the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth after hearing that Earth is a limited race of warp 5's, their initial attack with a single vessel fails due to miss information, the next time they send a vessel it is to complete the temporal loop, each time attempting to elliminate the miss information stage, before a final planned attack with an assimilation virus

You just discribed a pre-destined paradox! :) Personally, I don't think those can happen.

 

Here's why:

Click for Spoiler:

You have to have an "original timeline" where the Borg and Ent-E never arrived from the future, becuase, well... the future doesn't exist yet. 300 years later, the Borg show up, snooping arround, probably becuase of what they learned after assimilating the Hansens in the 2350's. Then, 8 years later, we have the movie ST:FC, which alters the timeline. The Borg and Ent-E travel back in time, messing with history, but leaving it mostly intact. This time arround, Borg wreckage from the sphere finds it's way to Earth's artic circle. 100 years later, the Borg are thawed, assimilate a transport, and head back for the collective, but in the end, are destroyed by Enterprise, but not before transmitting a subspace message - Earth's coordinates. If the Borg recieved this message, then why didn't they assimilate the Hansens when they studied a Borg Cube, eh?

 

 

 

Anywho, instead of a pre-destined paradox, I like to think that ST:FC and "Regeneration" simply changed the reason why the Borg became interrested in humanity, instead of creating a timeloop. B)

I personally believe that a pre-destined temporal paradox's are very possible. As for the thought that there had to be an "original" timeline where the events had not occurred does not matter, because once the events happened that time line no longer exists.

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1]

Temporal Tactics

 

Click for Spoiler:

The Borg send a single borg cube to destroy the Federation fleet, as the cube is finally destroyed a sphere escapes the destruction and creates the illusion of an attempt to prevent First Contact to fool the Enterprise E crew, the sphere which was effortlessly destroyed crashed within the arctic circle, the frozen drones were recovered a hundred years later, they assimilate several people and a vessel, and contact the collective, informing them in the 22nd of humanity, the message is recieved 200 years later and the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth after hearing that Earth is a limited race of warp 5's, their initial attack with a single vessel fails due to miss information, the next time they send a vessel it is to complete the temporal loop, each time attempting to elliminate the miss information stage, before a final planned attack with an assimilation virus

You just discribed a pre-destined paradox! B) Personally, I don't think those can happen.

 

Here's why:

Click for Spoiler:

You have to have an "original timeline" where the Borg and Ent-E never arrived from the future, becuase, well... the future doesn't exist yet. 300 years later, the Borg show up, snooping arround, probably becuase of what they learned after assimilating the Hansens in the 2350's. Then, 8 years later, we have the movie ST:FC, which alters the timeline. The Borg and Ent-E travel back in time, messing with history, but leaving it mostly intact. This time arround, Borg wreckage from the sphere finds it's way to Earth's artic circle. 100 years later, the Borg are thawed, assimilate a transport, and head back for the collective, but in the end, are destroyed by Enterprise, but not before transmitting a subspace message - Earth's coordinates. If the Borg recieved this message, then why didn't they assimilate the Hansens when they studied a Borg Cube, eh?

 

 

 

 

Anywho, instead of a pre-destined paradox, I like to think that ST:FC and "Regeneration" simply changed the reason why the Borg became interrested in humanity, instead of creating a timeloop. B)

I personally believe that a pre-destined temporal paradox's are very possible. As for the thought that there had to be an "original" timeline where the events had not occurred does not matter, because once the events happened that time line no longer exists.

Very true. It no longer exists, but it still happened. :) Maybe Daniels could help. :)

[ddillard 2]

Temporal Tactics

 

Click for Spoiler:

The Borg send a single borg cube to destroy the Federation fleet, as the cube is finally destroyed a sphere escapes the destruction and creates the illusion of an attempt to prevent First Contact to fool the Enterprise E crew, the sphere which was effortlessly destroyed crashed within the arctic circle, the frozen drones were recovered a hundred years later, they assimilate several people and a vessel, and contact the collective, informing them in the 22nd of humanity, the message is recieved 200 years later and the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth after hearing that Earth is a limited race of warp 5's, their initial attack with a single vessel fails due to miss information, the next time they send a vessel it is to complete the temporal loop, each time attempting to elliminate the miss information stage, before a final planned attack with an assimilation virus

You just discribed a pre-destined paradox! :) Personally, I don't think those can happen.

 

Here's why:

Click for Spoiler:

You have to have an "original timeline" where the Borg and Ent-E never arrived from the future, becuase, well... the future doesn't exist yet. 300 years later, the Borg show up, snooping arround, probably becuase of what they learned after assimilating the Hansens in the 2350's. Then, 8 years later, we have the movie ST:FC, which alters the timeline. The Borg and Ent-E travel back in time, messing with history, but leaving it mostly intact. This time arround, Borg wreckage from the sphere finds it's way to Earth's artic circle. 100 years later, the Borg are thawed, assimilate a transport, and head back for the collective, but in the end, are destroyed by Enterprise, but not before transmitting a subspace message - Earth's coordinates. If the Borg recieved this message, then why didn't they assimilate the Hansens when they studied a Borg Cube, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

Anywho, instead of a pre-destined paradox, I like to think that ST:FC and "Regeneration" simply changed the reason why the Borg became interrested in humanity, instead of creating a timeloop. B)

I personally believe that a pre-destined temporal paradox's are very possible. As for the thought that there had to be an "original" timeline where the events had not occurred does not matter, because once the events happened that time line no longer exists.

Very true. It no longer exists, but it still happened. :) Maybe Daniels could help. B)

If it no longer exists, then it did not happen.

[Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1]

Temporal Tactics

 

Click for Spoiler:

The Borg send a single borg cube to destroy the Federation fleet, as the cube is finally destroyed a sphere escapes the destruction and creates the illusion of an attempt to prevent First Contact to fool the Enterprise E crew, the sphere which was effortlessly destroyed crashed within the arctic circle, the frozen drones were recovered a hundred years later, they assimilate several people and a vessel, and contact the collective, informing them in the 22nd of humanity, the message is recieved 200 years later and the Borg attempt to assimilate Earth after hearing that Earth is a limited race of warp 5's, their initial attack with a single vessel fails due to miss information, the next time they send a vessel it is to complete the temporal loop, each time attempting to elliminate the miss information stage, before a final planned attack with an assimilation virus

You just discribed a pre-destined paradox! :) Personally, I don't think those can happen.

 

Here's why:

Click for Spoiler:

You have to have an "original timeline" where the Borg and Ent-E never arrived from the future, becuase, well... the future doesn't exist yet. 300 years later, the Borg show up, snooping arround, probably becuase of what they learned after assimilating the Hansens in the 2350's. Then, 8 years later, we have the movie ST:FC, which alters the timeline. The Borg and Ent-E travel back in time, messing with history, but leaving it mostly intact. This time arround, Borg wreckage from the sphere finds it's way to Earth's artic circle. 100 years later, the Borg are thawed, assimilate a transport, and head back for the collective, but in the end, are destroyed by Enterprise, but not before transmitting a subspace message - Earth's coordinates. If the Borg recieved this message, then why didn't they assimilate the Hansens when they studied a Borg Cube, eh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anywho, instead of a pre-destined paradox, I like to think that ST:FC and "Regeneration" simply changed the reason why the Borg became interrested in humanity, instead of creating a timeloop. B)

I personally believe that a pre-destined temporal paradox's are very possible. As for the thought that there had to be an "original" timeline where the events had not occurred does not matter, because once the events happened that time line no longer exists.

Very true. It no longer exists, but it still happened. :) Maybe Daniels could help. B)

If it no longer exists, then it did not happen.

You have to have an original timeline happen, then an "alterred", if you will, so you can have the time-loop timelime. Just becuase the original timeline no longer exists, doesn't mean it didn't happen. You gotta think beyond 3 dimensions. :)