Terminator/Matrix

[Wishfire 2]

I think that the Terminator movies could possibly be a (completely unintentional) prelude to the Matrix movies. Think of it... They both have to do with future wars between human and machines.

 

What do you think?

Edited November 9, 2004 by wishfire

[He Who Shall Not Be Named 2]

The theme of mankind being taken over by artificial intelligence is probably as old as artificial intelligence itself. I'm not surprised you found similarities.

[Wishfire 2]

I was referreing to how well the two story-lines can go together. Like, Terminator could have taken right before the torching of the sky mentioned in the Matrix. I mean, the events depicted in the Terminator (the future parts) could lead up to that event.

 

And then they took red pill.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named 2]

Don't think so. Judgement Day would have tourched the sky. After that John Connor won the machine war. Skynet's goal was the complete extermination of mankind and the Matrix's goal was to keep some of us alive.

 

What would have been more interesting is, in the Terminator, what would Skynet have done if the machines had won the war? After you control all of the planet and have wiped out your enemies, what then?

[Wishfire 2]

I don't remember Connor winning the war, but then again it's been a long time since I saw T2.

 

But you got to consider, in the Matrix the machine's original goal was to destroy all of mankind. It wasn't until after the sky got torched that they needed an alternative energy source and realized that humans made just that.

[Cougar 0]

They are secretly related...... LOL!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named 2]

I'm not sure if The Animatrix is considered canon, but in that it explains how we basically put up a smokescreen to block the sun. This was the scorched sky Morpheus referenced in The Matrix original. Nukes weren't used until some time later.

 

In T3, however, we see the nukes used an hour after Skynet is given sentience. Skynet launched the nukes (at least the US nukes), not mankind.

 

So the two futures aren't compatible after all. In one mankind uses the nukes. In another the machines do.

[Wishfire 2]

Sheesh, take everything seriously, why don'tcha? I was trying to be at least half-way silly.

[Stephen of Borg 2]

I love both trilogies, but when I saw the Matrix I told a lot of people about how it was just like watching another version of the Terminator for the reason you said, man vs. machine in the future, and the machines are winning.

[ddillard 2]

I think that this has become a very old theme Man creates machine, machine becomes sentient and believes man is an infestation, man and machine battle for control. It just shows the possibility of letting technology go to far without maintaining control.

[HRH The KING 0]

I still think Terminator had a better stroy.

 

"The Matrix" was simply too pretentious.

[sea trooper 0]

I've said before that Star Trek is after the Terminator series.

[WEAREBORG4102 0]

It is interesting that you point that out considering the philosophies are quite the same. Are we in control? Is it reality? What can come from artificial intelligence?

[Wishfire 2]

It is interesting that you point that out considering the philosophies are quite the same. Are we in control? Is it reality? What can come from artificial intelligence?

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Here's an even better question to tie in with those... Do we really want to know?