New Trek Show 0 Posted July 22, 2004 We at "New Trek Show" are a group of writers, 2 known directors, a few actors and some Star Trek fans dedicated to seeing the Trek series be taken to the next level. Our group formed out of an association of small business corporations in Houston, Texas, due to our mutual love of Star Trek, and the lowering quality levels seen in portions of "Voyager" and especially the poorly written "Enterprise". Most of our complaints were do to a lack of evolution of the show's presentation quality, and to the spiraling -downward trend of terrible writing and mistakes that cannot be corrected with viewer credibility for those fans of TOS, TNG, and DS9. During this same time, other shows like Stargate SG-1, FarScape, The X-Files, and others now being courted by the Sci-Fi channel have dramatically increased presentation quality, tactical and acceptable writing amongst critics, and overall Sci-Fi show quality, while the Star Trek franchise is hitting a wall. Now for you fans of Enterprise, hey, we like it too, and we love the cast and a bit of the writing, but seriously folks, there is no way these stories should have taken any place prior to TOS. Mistakes run abundant, huge and glaring. Also, keep in mind that only w-e-a-k writers, and a MINORITY of fans get into solving all these mistakes by constantly re-setting episodes with Time Travel escape hatches. The entire concept of a "Temporal War" is used only because the writing team was rushed to production, trying to keep 24th century Trek topics alive in the 21st century. Those of you who are detailed fans of TOS, know exactly what we mean. We don't want to see it cancelled, but Enterprise is one Trek show that needs an ENTIRE reset. Most Trek fans, (and our organization has polled over 780,000 of you at the last 6 annual Trek conventions in Vegas, Chicago and El Paso) agree with us. In fact, we're operating on data collected by you fans. OUR Purpose, is to get to Garry Hart (Paramount President) and Les Moonves (UPN Co-Chief) and get them to listen to our corporate pitch to let us control a new Trek show that is free of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga's contamination with a lot of things that are just not simply true Trek, or what Gene Roddenberry intended what Trek should be as an ongoing entertainment product. We feel conflicted ourselves. Berman and Braga brought us much we love in TNG and DS9, and we owe them a lot, but like burnt-out lazy folk, they're also crashing Trek down into a mediocre series that is doing constant injustice to the fans and the participants in the Trek shows before Enterprise. This deterioration began in Voyager, albeit with some very good things in Voyager, but has really escalated in Enterprise. The lack of any continuity, which Berman and Braga sneered at, is what has lost legacy Trek fans who liked all the earlier shows. Now, that Berman and Braga are in fear of losing their Trek jobs, they're rushing back trying to bring in old Trek participants, rush-restore continuity, and do everything they said they never wanted to do, because what they've done is endanger Trek as a whole, not to mention waste un-countable opportunities to do great storylines instead. New Trek fans growing up first with Enterprise, will not understand much of this. But we have a proven formula, that we've discussed with a few Trek organizations, Conventions and websites, that will assure UPN and Paramount, a minimum of a 15% share of TV nightly ratings, not to mention make all Trek fans exhilarated with what they'll see going on. That is, if we ever get our pitch meeting with Moonves or Hart. We will win them over if given that opportunity, and if so, might bring a new Trek show to the airwaves that truly takes a Star Trek show to a new level of profound leadership in the Sci-Fi genre. We will participate here, share ideas, and we welcome your feedback as members of StarTrekFans.net. We may ask for your support if we get our pitch meeting, we literally have plane tickets ready to fly us on a day's notice to LA or NYC or wherever we might meet the target executives we need to pitch. We also have two agents in Hollywood acting upon our behalf now. One portion of our new show, that makes it bulletproof, is we'll be showing UPN and Paramount execs, how we plan to let fan participation determine a lot of the writing directions. We have 22 show episodes down now, and all are fairly modifiable to actor availability, fan preferences, and past Trek writer availability, those writers with the best of Trek's past. We also have a few other things, never done before in Television, that will blow your socks off, IF, we're successful in this. We want to express appreciation with the feedback and support we've gotten from the "BringBackKirk" campaign, the TrekMasters website, and the StarTrekEvolutions organization of Las Vegas, Nevada, who kept us organized during the last 3 Vegas Trek Conventions. We are talking with more right now. We invite you to join our effort. Much of our plans we can reveal to interested parties, some we'd like to keep secret for as long as we can. We petitioned many ideas to Braga and Berman, as did many of you, and they are now racing to do what we suggested, and yourselves, without an ounce of credit to anyone but themselves. We hope we'll be equally welcomed by StarTrekFans.net, and we look forward with talking to you too. Why let them know any part of what our winning formula will be? (AND, why let other shows outshine Trek as the central piece of Sci-Fi worthy viewing?) We love those other shows too, but Trek is King. It should always be so. Before you think we're just another group of earnest starving writers without grasp or direction, I will tell you we consist of already-published writers, acclaimed actors (4) and several business leaders of Fortune 1000 corporations. We have our confidence, but we know the odds are stacked against us. We fight on for what we want, a NEW TREK Show, that really does it right, and well beyond anything you've seen to date. We've spoken to ABC already about purchasing rights to a Trek Franchise, but to this point, UPN and Paramount won't even sell sharing rights. That was expected, but when an ABC Executive producer listens to you and agrees with you, you have to explore EVERY avenue. We hope to make friends with a lot of you. Sincerely, Terrence Abrams CEO, DOCS ETC..., Inc. Star Trek Fan since 1968 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hangon 3 Posted July 22, 2004 WELCOME TO STARTREKFANS!!!! I hope you enjoy your stay P.S SEE YOU OUT THERE :blink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted July 23, 2004 Welcome. Who are you again? For some reason I am tending not to believe this. Sorry if I'm wrong but that's how I feel. Is this ConnerX? O.K. Now I just looked at your profile Now I definately don't believe this. Everything you just said, anyone could say. Let's see some of your work. Alot of us write on here, that doesn't mean a thing. And alot of us write together in a group. Just like you say you do. Let's see what you got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adm.RegBarclay 1 Posted July 23, 2004 I wholeheartedly agree with Jeanway. Personally, I think that is all a bunch of mixed generality devised by a disgruntled Trek fan. Petty motives and glittering jargon will get you nowhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace 0 Posted July 23, 2004 I for one am intrigued and wouldn't mind hearing more, though a little proof (if possible) could go a long way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragingtarg 0 Posted July 23, 2004 I find myself agreeing with Jeanway and Adm.RegBarclay, though. But I would like to see some evidence, just plain old rumours and disgruntlements will get you nowhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odie 0 Posted July 23, 2004 Hello and Welcome Aboard!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tal 0 Posted July 23, 2004 Greetings from the Romulan Star Empire. Ans Welcome to the Boards. If what u are saying is the truth can u please post some evidnce and then maby we'll start beliving you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 of 7 0 Posted July 23, 2004 Greetings from a friendly Borg. Welcome to the boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace 0 Posted July 23, 2004 Welcome to the board. (We can be a skeptical bunch .) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted July 25, 2004 Welcome to STARTREKFANS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted August 1, 2004 At least treat your fellow Houstonian with some respect I'm from Houston too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted August 2, 2004 You are heartily welcome to Startrekfans.net! Please understand that if some of our members seem skeptical, it is because we have had problems with very rude anti-Enterprise spammers. This site contains many Enterprise fans, including myself. There are alos those on this site who agree with you. You are welcome to present your opinions, but understand that this is a moderated site. As one of the moderators of the Enterprise forum (Ace, who has already welcomed you, is the other) you are welcome to present your positions respectfully in the Enterprise forum. But please note that in joining this board you have agreed to abide by a certain standard of behavior, which includes refraining from personal attacks. If you present an opinion, in particular against Enterprise, then do not insult the intelligence of those who respond in opposition. This site contains a broad range of active participants, but one of our most striking diversities is age diversity. We have very active middle-schoolers, high schoolers, college students, young people, all the way up to middle aged. The way people express themselves varies. Do not denigrate members for they way in which they respond to your posts. Sanctions will be applied in cases of bad behavior. (That includes current members who cross the line of respectful behavior. Watch yourselves.) Again I welcome you to startrekfans.net, and look forward to your respectful participation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted August 2, 2004 To all members: New members have the option of introducing themselves however they wish, within board rules. However the proper place to respond to just concerns raised by current members about the content of the post by New Trek Show is not in the new members forum. Based on the contents mentioned above, the appropriate places could be the Enterprise Forum, or Ten Forward. Posts above were deleted or edited because they encouraged the discussion to take place in the wrong forum. New Trek Show in encouraged to address members' stated concerns in the appropriate forum. Apparently there has been a discussion in Ten Forward of the issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARMS 0 Posted August 3, 2004 Welcome aboard anyway! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
