Jeanway 0 Posted April 18, 2004 Weareborg, needs to find out, QIUCK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaleman 0 Posted April 19, 2004 Is it possible? I think so, but i think the acurate question should be, Is it feasible? We'd either have to get all the parts from all current accelerators (electronics, magnets, etc) or we'd have to build several more of them, and seeing as how energy intensive they are, i'd say right now doing so would be beyond feasible, unless you want to can the medical, educational, and combative departments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nik 0 Posted April 19, 2004 It's possible. We do it today. (Here I go talking about my work again.) The place I work IS a linked particle accelerator. Not to difficult. We do sometimes throw around "Star Trekish" terms like "phase invariance" and other. It's not only possible, but feasible, and worthwhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted April 19, 2004 Really nik? Wow, I didn't know that. How is the energy stored? and used? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nik 0 Posted April 19, 2004 This device is for nuclear physics research purposes only, so the energy produced in reactions is either measured or lost (ignored). The amount of energy produced is really tiny and impractical. Since we deal with (sometimes near-relativistic) particles, the distinction between matter and energy is blurred. If we could build an accelerator powerful enough to produce practical amounts of energy, we would have to learn how to harvest energy in MANY forms - gamma rays mostly. In most cases here, we use our accelerated particles immediately, and the time from production to use is around 500 ns. In other facilities, people store these particles in what are called (what else!) storage rings - essentially large racetracks that the particles go around. Here, we have a small ring and other ways of confinement, but usually, we are just interested in production and measurement. Please understand that the particle accelerator as an energy source via direct conversion of matter to energy is not yet practical. If you refer to the direct conversion of matter to energy, that's very difficult by today's standards, and impractical. Devices around the world known sometimes as tokomaks are used as "hot fusion" devices or antimatter storage bottles, but the energy produced is also tiny. Give it another 100 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted April 19, 2004 So , therotically nik, in time a particle accelerator COULD be used on a Starship as an Anti-matter power source, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nik 0 Posted April 19, 2004 I can't think of an objection to that. If humans ever decide to take that step, we would probably start off with some sort of reaction that produces positrons (antiprotons maybe? I don't know.) If you can make enough antimatter, getting energy out of it would be a piece of cake. (By "enough" I mean something on the order of a gram.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted April 19, 2004 Could you design something for the U.S.S. ELUSIVE? Doesn't really have to work, just sounds good, ok? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headborg 1 Posted April 20, 2004 How do u go about physically linking 2 particle accelerators separated by 1000's of miles? I know u can link the data collected by 2 accelerators but the accelerators themselves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted April 20, 2004 I think in this case you have to miniaturize, THINK SMALL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nik 0 Posted April 20, 2004 I think in this case you have to miniaturize, THINK SMALL YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!! We do miniaturize! Instead of two accelerators 1000's of miles apart, we build them right by each other. We also play some other tricks to increase power, duty cycle, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeanway 0 Posted April 20, 2004 O.K.nik, energy coils. Same as the tunnels? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted April 22, 2004 My idea is fusion... I have the idea... mmmm... fusion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites