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Legendary filmmaker Steven Spielberg has been voted the greatest director of all time. Spielberg - the talent behind huge blockbuster hits including Schindler's List, E.T., Close Encounters Of The Third Kind and Saving Private Ryan - topped a poll commissioned by Britain's Empire movie magazine. The 58-year-old beat off competition from Psycho director Alfred Hitchcock and The Aviator creator Martin Scorsese, who came in second and third respectively. Empire's associate editor Ian Freer says, "Steven Spielberg is the closest thing in movies to resemble the impact of The Beatles. A cultural phenomenon, his adventures with sharks, UFOs, whip-crackin' archaeologists and ETs, plus searching historical dramas like Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan have defined the movie-going life of an entire generation." Surprisingly, acclaimed film-makers such as Star Wars director George Lucas, Charlie Chaplin, and Tim Burton, fell short of inclusion. The top ten is as follows: 1. Steven Spielberg, 2. Alfred Hitchcock, 3. Martin Scorsese, 4. Stanley Kubrick, 5. Sir Ridley Scott, 6. Akira Kurosawa, 7. Peter Jackson, 8. Quentin Tarantino, 9. Orson Welles, 10. Woody Allen.

 

from IMDB.com

British director Matthew Vaughn has quit the third X-Men movie because of "personal" problems. The Layer Cake film-maker, who is married to supermodel Claudia Schiffer, has urgently flown back from Hollywood to his home in London - leaving the movie's pre-production in chaos. X-Men 3, the second sequel to the smash 2000 comic book adaptation, was Vaughn's first big-budget studio project and he is devastated he's been forced to abandon the project Producer Avi Arad says, "This is not a case of creative differences. This is a personal decision by Matthew, and I can tell you that he is heartbroken. He loved this material, and he wanted to make this film." Comic Marvel and studio Fox are expected to make an announcement in the next few days regarding a replacement director, but filming - which was set to start in early July - looks set to be delayed.

 

from IMDB.com

I've heard a couple of names mentioned as possibilities for taking over the project but I can't remember who they were or what previous projects they were attached to. If I can find the information or when they make an announcement regarding a replacement, I'll be sure to post it.

I've been to that site a number of times and I can't believe the number of Trek references I've seen there.

I watched TOS' The Alternative Factor and TNG's The Vengeance Factor. I missed VOY today. Darn!

I read somewhere that Paramount didn't like the benign reference, so they "asked" the producers to change it.

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I had read they changed it to B4 when they remembered the robot in Lost In Space was called B9.

I do not remember the VOY theme much at all, and only got to hear the ENT theme a couple times...definately never heard the mirror theme.

 

But from the ones I do know. I voted TNG season 3 onward. I liked the Season 1 & 2 as well. And following that would be TOS's and DS9's basically tied.

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I can help with that, Yillara. Here's a link to the thread in the Enterprise forum where an audio file and a video file with the Mirror Universe theme can be found.

As for my favourite theme song, I can't decide between TNG, Enterprise (regular and mirror universe) and Voyager. If both music and images for the opening were to be considered then I would go with Voyager.

Just say Data was caught in the explosion and thrown clear by the shockwave and was found floating in space pretty much intact but damaged, OR he could have been found in pieces floating in space after the explosion and was reassembled using parts from B4.

 

Then you can have Data back in the next TNG movie.

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I prefer the Q brings Data back storyline myself. That one brief moment of emotion Q gave Data in Deja Q just doesn't seem like enough of a payment for saving Q's life. This way we could have Data, Lore AND Q in a movie.

They shouldn't have "killed" that character off.

 

The producers should have removed that element from the script.

 

It was pointless anyway because they just had an identical android remaining with Data's memories beginning to emerge.

 

IE: RESET BUTTON!!!!

 

That's like someone running over your dog with a large vehicle, only for an identical dog to come along with the same bark, who does the same tricks, eats the same food, and answers to the same name.

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I agree that Data shouldn't have been killed off.

I disagree regarding Data and B4. B4 is not and never will be Data. B4 had his own memories as well as Data's so he knows he's not Data. As I said in my previous post, for the same reason Sim was not Trip, B4 cannot be Data.

It won't let me vote

anyway, I'd pick bad. I felt it was a very poor ending to TNG. i mean did the writer even watch TNG?

The only part that got me at all was Data's death.

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John Logan is a huge TNG fan. As I've said in other threads, don't judge his screenplay by the final product. The screenplay was great.

I voted it was a good movie but it could have been great if not for Stuart Baird.

To deal with the problem of Data being "dead", I recommend that they bring the Mirror Data into the real universe, downloading B4's memories into the new Data.

 

If they need Worf, then just say it's Picard's birthday or some plot device like that to get him aboard.

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The problem I've always had with the idea of a Mirror Data is there already is one. His name is Lore. Now, I'd love to have a movie with Data and Lore in it though.

As for the Worf idea,

For all the people who think B4 can turn into Data, I urge you to watch the Enterprise episode Similitude.

The same can be said regarding Data and B4.

They should have let Frakes direct it and someone else should have written a better screenplay ... You know, one that features the entire cast a little more and gives us less of ancillary and hitherto unknown characters.  Kahn was a great villain, but you still saw plenty of Kirk, Bones, Spock and Scotty, with ample screen time for Chekov, Sulu and Uhura.

 

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Have you read the screenplay? Don't judge it based on the movie. The screenplay was so much better than the finished product. Most, if not all, of the 45 minutes cut from the movie were character driven moments.

Yes, Frakes directed First Contact and it was an awesome movie.  It's not his fault that Insurrection was just a dumb story.  What else could he do with it?

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I agree that Jonathan Frakes did an awesome job with First Contact. I like (not love but like) Insurrection. I would really like to see a director's cut of the movie to see what Frakes wanted to do since I've read that the final version wasn't his vision for the flick.

As for other cast members talking about another TNG movie, I found this at TrekWeb.com today:

The latest issue of STAR TREK MAGAZINE, just out in the UK, features an exclusive interview with STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION stalwart Patrick Stewart...

 

Asked about the possibility of another TNG movie, he said "You know, all of us in the cast have always had the same conversation - 'Should we really be doing this film'. It didn't look like STAR TREK NEMESIS was going to happen, but then it did. After STAR TREK NEMESIS we decided that we really did want to do another one - a final one."

 

Stewart adds that Brent Spiner and John Logan had an idea in mind for a STAR TREK XI, which according to him, would have been a 'valentine' to the fans "It would have brought all the Captains and all the principal casts together into one movie. It would have been a winner, but the studio decided that that was it," he shrugs "It wasn't that they weren't making money from the franchise, it was they weren't making enough money to justify the spend on that size of project. Their phrase was 'franchise fatigue'. They weren't interested, and so our movies came to an end."

Not the Paramount catchphrase "frachise fatigue" was being used as far back as 2003.

From startrek.com:

Enterprise episodes in June

 

For the month of June, UPN will be airing movies in their Friday evening time period. This means that repeat episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise will not be seen at their usual time on those days. UPN is making episodes available to their affiliate stations, which may choose to air them on the weekend.

For this coming weekend (June 4-5), the first "mirror universe" episode "In a Mirror, Darkly" will be shown.

 

Next weekend (June 11-12), watch for the conclusion "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part II."

 

Check your local listings for air date and time for these episodes.

From TrekToday:

Cirroc Lofton, who said in various interviews as a teenager starring on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine that he wanted to be a doctor and later a director, has a new career as a rapper, and he plans to talk about his experiences on the series.

 

"One beat will use the original Star Trek theme song and have that beat in a hip-hop type of mode," the 26-year-old Lofton told Sci Fi Wire of the new rap album on which he's working. "The Jake Sisko character will have some lines dropped in here and there." He added that he has been working on the music for the album, Divine Intervention, for six or seven years, and hopes to release it in September through Infinity World Entertainment.

 

"Rap is a very powerful tool and either can be used correctly and incorrectly, and I hope I can get my messages out there," Lofton noted. "For me, it's a natural transformation from poetry to this...I want it to be enjoyable, inspirational and educational." He did say that the language might not be appropriate for very young listeners, however.

 

Be warned, however: in a chat on the old Star Trek Continuum site, Lofton said, "I've been writing rap music for about 7 years...I can't sing, though, at all. I write lyrics."

For the most part, Jolene Blalock is the only one I've heard critisizing the development of her character although she was more "approving" of season 4 T'Pol than previous seasons.

From some of the recent comments I've read from John Billingsley I don't think he understands what Star Trek is. This is from TrekWeb.com:

The latest issue of TV Zone magazine, just out in the UK, features an exclusive interview with STAR TREK ENTERPRISE actor John Billingsley...

 

"One thing that's always bugged me about TREK is this conceit that one day we're going to become better than human. I remember [a line about that in ["Broken Bow"]. I've found that to be a slightly invidious theme in TREK, and one that's either too 'Pollyanna-ish' or arrogant."

Better than human? Trek has always been about humanity that has bettered itself.

Presenting the future as better than today is arrogant?! Give me a break!

In The Big Goodbye, Data uses a lot of contractions on the holodeck when Bev asks where Picard is.

"He's on ice." "He's being grilled."

On Sunday night, the 3rd Annual Spacey Awards were handed out. In categories voted on by the fans, Enterprise had nominations in three categories: Favourite Male TV Character - Captain Archer, Favourite Female TV Character - T'Pol and Favourite TV Series.

Enterprise won its category by a narrow margin:

1: Enterprise votes 35.21%

2: Stargate SG-1 votes 32.2%

3: Smallville votes 14.32%

4: Lost votes 13.85%

5: Alias votes 4.42%

and T'Pol was name Favourite Female Character for the third straight year:

1: TPol votes 27.86%

2: Sydney Bristow votes 19.85%

3: Lana Lang votes 18.64%

4: Number 6 votes 18.31%

5: Kate votes 15.33%

Unfortunately, Captain Archer lost out to Stargate SG-1's Jack O'Neill.

Congratulations!

You still seem to be neglecting the primary source of TREK CANON in your examples.....TOS<<<this is the bed-rock foundation of all things TREK...

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Yes TOS is the bedrock of canon with hundreds of layers on top of if it now but I still don't see a canon problem. What canon has been breached? What is the contradiction with later Trek history? Not being mentioned later does not make it a canon violation. It just means it wasn't mentioned.

I have the edition of the Star Trek Encyclopedia that was updated in 1999. In the "Historical Events in the Star Trek Universe" section there is nothing listed between the years 2117 (Zefram Cochrane disappears and is believed dead) and 2156 (Romulan Wars begin between Earth forces and the Romulan Star Empire). The Xindi arc takes place between April, 2153 and February, 2154.

Since there was no previously established canon for the time period 2153/2154 regarding wars involving Earth, what canon was broken? Loose ends does not mean breached canon.

Perhaps it's time to get back on topic.

Again it's a matter of the magnitude and the impact the species has on the storyline and the geographic proximity that makes a difference. (1) the Batazoids are a minor species(mole hill), (2) Bejorans, Cardassians, The Dominion and Founders...too far away to be a issue during the early era of Federation Exploration. (3) other's are all minor players too.  The Xindi are a loose-end that needed tieing up, but because the series has ended..unless the next show does something about it..I'll be left wondering what happened to them during the next 100 years between 2154 and 2164, did they destroy themselves in a Civil War-with only a handful remaining, did they suffer a long period of cultural isolation and a technological "Dark Age"? All pack-up and immigrate to another sector..Gamma, or Delta ..hince their long absence.

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Wanting to have loose ends tied up is fine but how is that a canon problem?

How many times did TNG/DS9/VOY reference the Eugenics War - once (DS9's "Doctor Bashir, I Presume?")?* How many times was World War III referenced in TNG/DS9/VOY - once in TNG and once in ST:FC?* Those were major events in Trek history yet they were barely mentioned. In TNG/DS9/VOY how many times were the Enterprise-B or Enterprise-C mentioned - once for each (ST: Generations and Yesterday's Enterprise respectively).*

*I'm using the ST Encyclopedia for assistance in when these events were referenced.

I watched ST: Insurrection on Space this afternoon.

I hope you are not refering to me assuming the Xindi could ever join the Federation anytime near-after the events of the conflict! When they joined is irrelevant, their unnoticed presence in the Alpha/Bata quad without being referenced or notice in the TOS-TNG-DS9 era is a canon problem.

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Betazoids were never mentioned in TOS. Neither were Bajorans, Cardassians or Trill. Deltans, Orions and Platonians weren't in TNG and there was only a brief glimpse of Andorians (The Offspring). The Dominion and the Founders were never mentioned in TNG series. The only mention of the Dominion regarding TNG was in ST: INS.

At the time of TNG, the UFP consisted of 150 member planets spread over 8,000 light years (ST: FC), most of the planets haven't been identified in canon. In Time's Arrow Part II, Deanna Troi told Samuel Clemons that the Bolian he had just seen was one of thousands of species they had encountered. The Federation President in ST: VI was a species that has never been identified and that species hasn't been seen in any other movie or series.

So what's the big deal that the Xindi weren't mentioned in TOS/TNG/DS9. It's a big galaxy. They can't show or mention every species out there.

The federation was formed in 2161 but canon gave no indication as to where the charter was signed although it could be easily deduced that it was signed on Earth since that is where Federation and Starfleet Headquarters are based.

 

 

According to Star Fleet Technical Manual: Articles of Federation paragraph 3:

 

HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS.

Accordingly, The Respective Social Systems, Through Representatives assembled on the planet BABEL, Who have exhibited their full powers to be in good and due form, Have agreed to these Articles of Federation of the United Federation of Planets, and do hereby establish an inter-planetary organization to be known as The United Federation of Planets.

CHAPTER XVIII

RATIFICATION AND SIGNATURE

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In Faith Whereof the Representatives of the govennments of the United Federation of Planets have signed these Articles of Federation.

Done at the Planet Babel Stardate 0965

 

(Followed by signature sheets of the original signatory governments)

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As BKY says that wasn't on any of the series or movies. Books are not canon.

From st.com:

...the events that take place within the live action episodes and movies are canon, or official Star Trek facts

Series: Star Trek: Voyager

Season: 7

Episode #: 26

Production #: 272

Episode Name: Endgame, Part II

Original Air Date: 05.23.01

Review not yet available.

Cast:

Kate Mulgrew as Kathryn Janeway

Robert Beltran as Chakotay

Roxann Dawson as B'Elanna Torres

Robert Duncan McNeill as Tom Paris

Robert Picardo as The Doctor

Tim Russ as Tuvok

Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine

Garrett Wang as Harry Kim

Guest Cast:

Alice Krige as Borg Queen

Richard Herd as Admiral Paris

Dwight Schultz as Reginald Barclay

Richard Sarstedt as Starfleet Admiral

Joey Sakata as Engineering Officer

Director: Allan Kroeker

Teleplay By: Kenneth Biller & Robert Doherty

Story By: Rick Berman & Kenneth Biller & Brannon Braga

Series: Star Trek: Voyager

Season: 7

Episode #: 25

Production #: 271

Episode Name: Endgame, Part I

Original Air Date: 05.23.01

Review not yet available.

Cast:

Kate Mulgrew as Kathryn Janeway

Robert Beltran as Chakotay

Roxann Dawson as B'Elanna Torres

Robert Duncan McNeill as Tom Paris

Ethan Phillips as Neelix

Robert Picardo as The Doctor

Tim Russ as Tuvok

Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine

Garrett Wang as Harry Kim

Guest Cast:

Dwight Schultz as Reginald Barclay

Alice Krige as Borg Queen

Vaughn Armstrong as Korath

Manu Intiraymi as Icheb

Lisa Locicero as Miral Paris

Miguel Perez as Physician

Grant Garrison as Cadet

Amy Lindsay as Lana

Matthew James Williamson as Klingon

Iris Bahr as Female Cadet

Ashley Sierra Hughes as Sabrina

Director: Allan Kroeker

Teleplay By: Kenneth Biller & Robert Doherty

Story By: Rick Berman & Kenneth Biller & Brannon Braga