Stephen of Borg 2 Posted March 25, 2006 (edited) I was watching "Q Who" last night on the Borg DVD and Guinan said something interesting that I never paid much attention to before, she said something like "When humans are ready, it may be possible to establish a relationship with the Borg, but for now humanity was only raw material to them". Do you think the Borg could ever establish a relationship, even a friendship, with humans in the future? Thinking of this, I'd like to see a future Trek series be set in like the 34th century and by that time have the Borg as allies. Then have an alien species that is worse than the Borg as an enemy. What could be worse than the Borg? Don't know but who said the Borg is as bad as it gets, Q hinted on the same episode that there are "terrors that would freeze your soul". The Borg may be bad, but there could be worse things out there, deeper in space that the humans haven't even come in contact with. In other words, we are lucky we just saw the Borg, because much worse things lurk farther in space. It'd be interesting to see what things are more out there in a future series that make the Borg look like kittens. Not saying that there is anything worse than the Borg, but could be I voted "other" just because I think it is a maybe Edited March 25, 2006 by Gamera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted March 25, 2006 In what shape or form could the Federation ever ally themselves with a species that exists to destroy and assimilate entire worlds? I can't see it ever happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sikkbones 0 Posted March 25, 2006 i could see the founder's becoming allies of the federation long before the borg do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted March 26, 2006 i could see the founder's becoming allies of the federation long before the borg do. I agree. At least the Founders are a species that you can actually negotiate with. Plus, they now know that Starfleet can kick their butt.... :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARMS 0 Posted March 26, 2006 I don't see why not, but all members of this alliance should have interlink nodes that can be turned on and off at the indivuals will, nanos are also multipurpose.. Could be the most unified 'internet like' mind in the galaxy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen of Borg 2 Posted March 27, 2006 every time I watch Borg episodes like "Descent" and "I, Borg" I'm more convinced that the Borg could be allies. I think over time, if the majority of the Borg have become independent thinkers like Hugh and the rest of the Borg from Descent, an alliance is very possible. The old ways of the Borg could eventually die out to the next step of the evolutionary Borg like Hugh and Seven. It'd be like the Cardassians fighting to change their old ways all over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted March 27, 2006 Hugh was not the typical Borg. If the Borg disconnected themselves from the collective and became individuals, then perhaps they could be reasoned with. As long as they are drones and as long as they continue to assimilate other species, there is no chance for an alliance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sikkbones 0 Posted March 28, 2006 they only reason i could see the borg allying with the federation is if the Q's were attacking them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayTroi 0 Posted April 20, 2006 NO!!! The Borg only exist to destroy those they think are inferior to them or to assimilate those with useful technologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen of Borg 2 Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) on Voyager, I believe it was Unimatrix Zero, thousands of Borg were starting to become independent from the collective. Janeway said that it may be the start of the Borg Civil War. Which would be like DS9 when the Cardassians that wanted changed fought those who didn't. So with thousands of Borg becoming independent, if the good Borg wins, I can very well see an alliance. It's already been proven that the Borg can have children without assimilation just by growing them from DNA, so the Borg wouldn't have to keep assimilating everyone. So even the TV series Voyager hints at the Borg being good since they brought up the civil war topic. I'm telling ya, it could very well happen. Who would have thought those Klingons from the original series would have become allies by TNG? I know if I said that in the past everyone would have thought it never would have happened as well Edited April 21, 2006 by Gamera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 of 7 0 Posted April 21, 2006 True, I believe that it would be possible to make an stable alliance with the good Borg. But it would be impossible to make an stable alliance with the Collective, that is something that would never happen. Speaken of alliances between the Borg and the Federation, I just have to show this funny picture I found on the net: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiraxTerrik 0 Posted April 22, 2006 A Federation-Borg Alliance would be an interesting thing to see, but I agree that it wouldn't last. The Borg are just to single-minded (excuse the pun) and too obsessed with perfection. The individuallity of every species of the Federation would be seen as chaos to the Borg sense of unity and order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted April 9, 2008 I think 2 things would be required for the Fed to become allies with the Borg; the Queen would have to agree to no longer assimilate anyone and 2; give current drones the ability to live free lives disconnected from the hive. Then yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeeingEyeBorg 0 Posted April 9, 2008 I'm gonna say no. Alliance with an outside species is in direct contradiction with the nature of Borg. Characters like Seven of Nine, One, Hugh, Icheb, and others don't count because once they were disconnected from the Hive Mind they're weren't really "Borg" anymore. In order to function/survive outside the Hive Mind, they had to adopt singular identities and abandon the mission of assimilation. Even the crazy ex-drones in "Descent" didn't want to assimilate anymore, and they had individual names; in short, they too were no longer Borg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishfire 2 Posted July 21, 2008 The very nature of the Borg prevents such a possibility from ever occurring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaboGirl 7 Posted July 21, 2008 NO! Never! The only way anything like that could ever even occur is in a horrible Borg 'Jump the Shark' moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites