Odie

hockey!

summer

LOL!!!

There are too many TNG reference to fit comfortable with TOS, but they are funny!

hokey

Yes, I've re-read my statement a few times and still can't find the words "US Government"

Hmmmm.... It looks like you trying to cover both bases by burring details. When anyone on this board referred the United States they are implying the government. When someone wants to state the citizens they refer to them as Americans. By referring to your cases, which does not support your point of view, as your rebuttal you are implying US government.

Proof please.

I've already cited some legal cases.

Your cases does not support your augment.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

Tammy Kitzmiller, et al. v. Dover Area School District, et al., Case No. 04cv2688, was the first direct challenge brought in the United States federal courts against a public school district that required the presentation of "intelligent design" as an alternative to evolution as an "explanation of the origin of life." The plaintiffs successfully argued that intelligent design is a form of creationism, and that the school board policy thus violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. The judge's decision has sparked considerable response from both supporters and critics...

In his Conclusion on pages 136–138 of 139 of this decision he writes:

 

The proper application of both the endorsement and Lemon tests to the facts of this case makes it abundantly clear that the Board’s ID Policy violates the Establishment Clause. In making this determination, we have addressed the seminal question of whether ID is science. We have concluded that it is not, and moreover that ID cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents. [...]

 

The citizens of the Dover area were poorly served by the members of the Board who voted for the ID Policy. It is ironic that several of these individuals, who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the ID Policy. With that said, we do not question that many of the leading advocates of ID have bona fide and deeply held beliefs which drive their scholarly endeavors. Nor do we controvert that ID should continue to be studied, debated, and discussed. As stated, our conclusion today is that it is unconstitutional to teach ID as an alternative to evolution in a public school science classroom.

Edwards v. Aguillard

Edwards v. Aguillard, 482 U.S. 578 (1987) was a case heard by the Supreme Court of the United States. The Court ruled that a Louisiana law requiring that creation science be taught in public schools whenever evolution was taught was unconstitutional, because the law was specifically intended to advance a particular religion. At the same time, however, it held that "teaching a variety of scientific theories about the origins of humankind to school children might be validly done with the clear secular intent of enhancing the effectiveness of science instruction."

 

In support of Aguillard, 72 Nobel prize-winning scientists,[1] 17 state academies of science, and 7 other scientific organizations filed amicus briefs which described creation science as being composed of religious tenets.

Selman v. Cobb County School District

INTRODUCTION

There is no scientific controversy over the validity of the evolutionary explanation of plant and animal diversity, which is the grand unifying concept of modern biology. Although some religious organizations insist that there is, and have recruited spokesmen with only colorable scientific credentials to claim that there is, the fact remains that evolution is the only scientifically valid explanation for the diversity of life. Although a thorough defense of evolution is not possible in a legal brief, amici wish to provide a concise refutation of the notion that evolution is controversial, or that there is scientific debate over it. It is not controversial, and no serious or reliable scientific criticism of the validity of evolution has yet been presented.

SUMMARY OF ARGUMENT

 

Amici agree with the plaintiffs that the disclaimer placed by the Cobb County School Board in biology textbooks hurts biology education in a way that appeases sectarian interests. Amici contend that a first-class science education provides students with vital, meaningful ways to understand the world around them and will provide Georgia with the skilled labor force needed to expand our technological economy. Protecting the integrity of science education will contribute directly to the future of our students, our quality of life, and to the prosperity of the state of Georgia. Further, our efforts in Georgia will help other states and nations to protect science education from the incorporation of dogma and pseudoscience. Many educators, including amici, are familiar with the average citizen’s lack of education or training in evolutionary biology. Religious interest groups opposed to modern science take advantage of this ignorance to promulgate confusion, as they have done in the amicus curiae brief filed in support of the plaintiffs. We respectfully submit information that we hope will illuminate these attempts to confuse the court.

CONCLUSION

 

For these reasons, Amici urge the Court to find in favor of the Plaintiffs.

Excellent. Hopefully the US courts will continue to fight off the obsessive creationist lobby.

You have not given the proof that the US courts have not ruled in favor for creationism. The United States through the courts does not support creationism being taught in the classroom. This does not mean the American views on creationism are valid or pointless. They have right, according to Constitution, to have their opinion open in the "public square" along with scientific views on how life started.

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cooking

I love the Simpsons! :blink:

I really never liked Fully House. It was a lame show on Friday nights.

It is so odd reading my post almost four years later! :blink:

I had to work today. :blink:

You where missed.

car

chips

Robert and Benny just being themselves. Brother bonding is a weird thing. :blink: :blink:

 

which is why i occasionally shoot my brother in the butt with my bb rifle in the morning

RC you are right.

Hip-hop

Elizabeth

I'm in the chat room!

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musical

Kor, how would you feel if I went to the town that you lived in and tape the worst nieghborhood that is all in that town. Calling everyone, that would include yourself, inbreed hicks or worse. Where I come from those are fighting words. Oh, I am from upstate New York. There is more to Oniontown than their worse area. These people are poor, but they are still human.

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honey

Watching my sons laugh at each other. I wish I knew what the joke was, because from sound of it it must have funny!

tea

I have 3989 posts to go!

toast

i am not sure if this counts.

Watching my oldest son dance with the radio on.

The grand canyon i see twice a week when debs mom bends over in her very lose jeans *shudder*..lol sorry i just had to say that couldnt let it pass.

I knew Daniel well enough for an internet friend. Rest in peace. :(

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When Deb reads it he will pay for it!