VaBeachGuy 12 Posted April 26, 2004 Below is the transcript of the Sunday chat with Hidden Frontier. It is has been formatted it to make it easier to read. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun Apr 25 15:03:29 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:This is our third Trek-News-Talk chat room session. Our guests work on a Star Trek Internet fanfilm called “Hidden Frontier.” You can visit their website here: www.hiddenfrontier.org. Sun Apr 25 15:03:32 2004:_carlos [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:03:41 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:hello carlos Sun Apr 25 15:03:46 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:There he is :) Welcome Carlos! Sun Apr 25 15:04:03 2004:Captain_Jean-Luc_Picard [0/] Msg:Welcome, Carlos! Sun Apr 25 15:04:08 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:We are actually going to go pretty quick in the first part. (And I may ask a few questions during the second part...) Sun Apr 25 15:04:12 2004:Lt_van_roy [0/] Msg:Hi Carlos. Sun Apr 25 15:04:12 2004:Alterego [0/] Msg:Welcome! Sun Apr 25 15:04:24 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Many of us don’t know much about “Hidden Frontier”--- What’s it about? (What’s its setting, basic-plot, its central conflict, ...) Sun Apr 25 15:05:57 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Hidden Frontier is set in the post-Voyager era and takes place in the Briar Patch seen in Insurrection. Most of the show is set aboard the USS Excelsior, a Galaxy Class Dreadnaught, which has been assigned to Deep Space 12, a Federation outpost orbiting Ba Sun Apr 25 15:06:03 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Baku Sun Apr 25 15:06:46 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:We have a variety of plot threads going and are just starting our fifth season. Sun Apr 25 15:06:57 2004:_carlos [0/] Disconnect: Sun Apr 25 15:06:58 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Does the show expand on what happened after Insurrection with the Baku? Sun Apr 25 15:06:58 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:n total we've produced 32 episodes so far. Sun Apr 25 15:07:40 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:[shaking head] Hard to believe it's been so many. Time just kinda flies when you're having fun. Sun Apr 25 15:07:42 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Yes, we do deal with the post-Insurrection atmosphere in the Briar Patch where quite a bit of interesting things start to happen that turn that part of the Galaxy into a hotbed of activity, much like Bajor was for the DS9 series. Sun Apr 25 15:07:50 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:That's a lot of episodes.... and I would imagine quite a bit of work Sun Apr 25 15:08:04 2004:Lt_van_roy [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 15:08:20 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:I see. Sun Apr 25 15:08:25 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:It's been an enormous amount of work! But it's been a group effort and the quality has improved as we've come along. Sun Apr 25 15:08:26 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Who’s the protagonist? Sun Apr 25 15:09:04 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:The stars of our show are none other than Captain Elizabeth Shelby, who commands the Excelsior, and Commodore Knapp who runs the space station. Sun Apr 25 15:09:21 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:But it's an ensemble cast.. Sun Apr 25 15:09:46 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:As John mentioned, he plays the Excelsior's cheif medical officer, a Tellurite, Dr. Henglaar.. Sun Apr 25 15:09:56 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Could you tell us a bit about the post-Insurrection Baku...? Sun Apr 25 15:10:08 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:TellArite, Rob. [grin] Sun Apr 25 15:10:15 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:sorry John! Sun Apr 25 15:10:17 2004:_carlos [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:10:36 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:A long-standing joke between us. :-) Sun Apr 25 15:10:41 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:Sorry folks. had some browser troubles, but all appears OK now Sun Apr 25 15:10:58 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Well, we've touched on the fact that a lot of alien species are interested in getting their hands on Baku. We had an episode where the Breen tried to cool the planet to make it more hospitable for them. Luckily that was thwarted! Sun Apr 25 15:10:59 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:That's ok, Carlos. Sun Apr 25 15:11:24 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:That sounds neat :) Sun Apr 25 15:11:42 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:But we've also explored the idea of the Patch as a whole being a huge unexplored explanse as you cannot travel at warp in the Patch. Sun Apr 25 15:12:05 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:So there are all these worlds cut off from civilization, that we're just now starting to discover Sun Apr 25 15:12:16 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:and the "hidden" nature of the frontier that comprises the Briar Patch holds a lot of secrets that other species want to take advantage of. Sun Apr 25 15:12:32 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Like what? Sun Apr 25 15:13:04 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:rob, have you mentioned the Grey or the tetrahedrons yet? Sun Apr 25 15:13:09 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Well in our pilot we introduced this mysterious ancient race known as the Grey that inhabit the patch. Sun Apr 25 15:13:16 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Not yet, Carlos. Sun Apr 25 15:13:23 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:I haven't yet Carlos. Please, take it away! Sun Apr 25 15:13:39 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:the briar patch is also home to an alien race called the Grey Sun Apr 25 15:14:06 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:they're a psionic race that kidnaps other beings Sun Apr 25 15:14:30 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Oh, ok. I was just about to ask that. lol Sun Apr 25 15:14:44 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:The Grey consider the psychic energy of other living beings to be very tasty. Much to the detriment of their victims. Sun Apr 25 15:14:52 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:they also appear to be after large, cloaked tetrahedrons (pyramids) that orbit planets within the Briar Patch. Sun Apr 25 15:15:19 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:What about the homosexual character? Sun Apr 25 15:15:25 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:And they are believed to live in a Dyson Sphere at the very center of the Patch. Sun Apr 25 15:15:37 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Which one? We have two. Sun Apr 25 15:15:37 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:the tetrahedrons appear to be incredibly powerful, and so have become the target of several other species competing to discover their secrets Sun Apr 25 15:15:54 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:like the tholians, cardassians, breen, etc. Sun Apr 25 15:15:57 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Either...... Well that’s neat --- A Dyson Sphere. Sun Apr 25 15:16:13 2004:dberry [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:16:22 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:the main gay character is Lt. Corey Aster Sun Apr 25 15:16:25 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:woot Sun Apr 25 15:16:31 2004:Captain_Jean-Luc_Picard [0/] Msg:I gotta go, sorry to miss the chat. Have fun all! Sun Apr 25 15:16:34 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Hello, Dave. Sun Apr 25 15:16:37 2004:Captain_Jean-Luc_Picard [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 15:16:41 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:the assistant chief engineer aboard the excelsior Sun Apr 25 15:16:47 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:hey john Sun Apr 25 15:17:11 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:What are the issues that you expanded on the issue of homosexuality? Sun Apr 25 15:17:34 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:(Or should I say--- on the topic of homosexuality) Sun Apr 25 15:17:37 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:he had a crush on the science officer, Ensign Ro Nevin, since their academy days Sun Apr 25 15:17:56 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:If I may interject, one of the "issues" we've expanded on is that homosexuality is no longer an issue. Sun Apr 25 15:17:59 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:i'd say the main issue is universal -- self-acceptance, tolerance Sun Apr 25 15:18:08 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Good point John! Sun Apr 25 15:19:00 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:It's really just another cross sampling of the crew as we have our Bajorans, Tellarites, Cardassians, etc. Sun Apr 25 15:19:05 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:We've written the characters as any other two characters with feelings for each other. They could as easily be two hetero characters. Sun Apr 25 15:19:13 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:that's true. we don't actually make that big a deal about the characters' homosexuality. it's portrayed as any other potential romance would be. Sun Apr 25 15:19:25 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:I see. Sun Apr 25 15:19:49 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:of course, it isn't always viewed that way byt some of our fans... Sun Apr 25 15:19:59 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:How so? Sun Apr 25 15:20:10 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:mired as we are in 21st century views ... Sun Apr 25 15:20:19 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Yes. We've had ten percent of our episodes featuring a gay storyline, therefore we are making "Gay Trek." [snort] Sun Apr 25 15:20:49 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:there has been some contraversy among the fanbase Sun Apr 25 15:21:03 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:despite our efforts to portray gay characters like any other character, some folks believe we're trying to push an agenda Sun Apr 25 15:21:38 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:By this same logic, Star Trek is pushing a black agenda, because they've always had a black character on the show. [chuckle] Sun Apr 25 15:21:51 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:That's true Sun Apr 25 15:22:05 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:So you guys are not really doing storylines that parallel any topics that are being currently debated in the politics on the issue of homosexuality Sun Apr 25 15:22:18 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:I think if we've found an issue that gets people going, then we've done our job. Sun Apr 25 15:22:25 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:That' Sun Apr 25 15:22:31 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Not really, Sun Apr 25 15:22:36 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:That's Star Trek Sun Apr 25 15:22:41 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Ok Sun Apr 25 15:22:42 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:indeed Sun Apr 25 15:22:57 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:How about we open the doors......and see what we get Sun Apr 25 15:23:03 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:i think we've struggled with whether to take the approach that we should make allegorical references like TNG and DS9 did... Sun Apr 25 15:23:08 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:We can start the second portion of the chat Sun Apr 25 15:23:21 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:or whether to simply portray actual gay characters Sun Apr 25 15:23:23 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:The view of HF is that homosexuality, as an issue, is a dead issue and they've gone on to deal with more important things. Sun Apr 25 15:23:42 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:pretty much we opted for the latter, as Henglaar points out Sun Apr 25 15:23:54 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Yeah, I remember Gene Roddenberry even saying that in an interview Sun Apr 25 15:24:14 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:so shall we get on to questions? Sun Apr 25 15:24:38 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Sure, Alterego........ Sun Apr 25 15:24:42 2004:Alterego [0/] Msg:Pass Sun Apr 25 15:24:55 2004:Alterego [0/] Msg:Indy? Sun Apr 25 15:24:57 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:Are any of the established characters from the Baku planet it it, such as Anij and Artim? And is it the same Shelby as in bobw? Sun Apr 25 15:25:19 2004:trekz [0/] Msg:How do you choose which storylines to do. do you discuss them, have story outlines or what? Sun Apr 25 15:25:23 2004:Alterego [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 15:25:24 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:Artim is one of our characters Sun Apr 25 15:25:27 2004:trekz [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 15:25:45 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:he went to the academy and now serves aboard the excelsior Sun Apr 25 15:25:52 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:It might help to "aim" the question at an individual so we know which one of us is to reply. :-) Sun Apr 25 15:25:58 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:oh, sorry Sun Apr 25 15:25:59 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:yes, it's the same shelby as in bobw Sun Apr 25 15:26:01 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:or a specific topic Sun Apr 25 15:26:08 2004:Alterego [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:26:27 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:ok, thanks, that answered my question Sun Apr 25 15:26:34 2004:Alterego [0/] Msg:Ooops, sorry. Nem? Sun Apr 25 15:26:42 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:as far as story outlines, the last three seasons of the show will be pretty serialized Sun Apr 25 15:26:43 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Storylines are discussed among the production staff and a consensus is usually reached on accepting or rejecting a script. Sun Apr 25 15:26:59 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:though script submissions are closed Sun Apr 25 15:27:09 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:As Carlos pointed out, our last three seasons will not be accepting outside scripts any more. Sun Apr 25 15:27:09 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:How can we see the episodes that you have produced? From your web site perhaps.. Sun Apr 25 15:27:15 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:and we have outlined pretty much the rest of the show's episodes. Sun Apr 25 15:27:36 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:yes. you can view our episodes on our website Sun Apr 25 15:27:37 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Episodes are archived on our website. Sun Apr 25 15:27:39 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:How do you guys go about making Hidden Frontier? (In a nutshell) Sun Apr 25 15:27:45 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Rob? Sun Apr 25 15:27:47 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:rob? Sun Apr 25 15:28:22 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:yess? Sun Apr 25 15:28:27 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:episodes begin production about a year ahead of airing with a story treatment Sun Apr 25 15:28:29 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:your question, boss. Sun Apr 25 15:28:32 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:ok Sun Apr 25 15:28:44 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Well it's all shot with a green screen Sun Apr 25 15:28:54 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:then a script, then rob begins producing the CG sequences Sun Apr 25 15:29:03 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:On the world's second smallest sound stage. Sun Apr 25 15:29:07 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:we film the actors against it and can put any background behind them, the bridge or the space station, etc Sun Apr 25 15:29:19 2004:DixonHill1989 [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:29:21 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:backgrounds.... Sun Apr 25 15:29:30 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:How do you have access to all of this equipment? Sun Apr 25 15:30:00 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:It's all been bought over time, but it really doesn't take much these days Sun Apr 25 15:30:12 2004:DixonHill1989 [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 15:30:31 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:rob, you wanna describe the CG sequences? Sun Apr 25 15:30:41 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:If you have a video camera and a computer and a green case of paint, you've got the basics Sun Apr 25 15:30:57 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:31:14 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Well the CG is all done in Lightwave 3-D, the program they used on the other trek shows, so all the ships are computer generated, no physical models. Sun Apr 25 15:31:30 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Do you have actual starsship/starbase sets? Or are they backgrounds that are added later on. Sun Apr 25 15:31:35 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Which allows you to do pretty much anything you want with them Sun Apr 25 15:31:44 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:We use live compositing with a chromakey generator for our actors' sakes, and because it takes less time than computer compositing, but that's not a requirement. Sun Apr 25 15:31:47 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:rob animates some amazing sequences. lotsa starships in battle, etc. Sun Apr 25 15:32:09 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Tigger, these are all backgrounds. Sun Apr 25 15:32:23 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Some of the sets are CG, dberry created a runabout interior for us. Others are of the actual studio sets. Sun Apr 25 15:32:23 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:All..That's cool..They look great.. Sun Apr 25 15:32:25 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:most sets at the moment are screencaps or pulls from games like captains chair Sun Apr 25 15:32:32 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:we depend on the backgrounds because, as Henglaar pointed out, we have the world's smallest studio. there'd be no room for physical sets. Sun Apr 25 15:32:43 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Our budget doesn't permit sets, and we don't have a place to store them. It's a lot easier to store a set on your hard drive. :-) Sun Apr 25 15:32:46 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:others are made from scrath in a 3d program Sun Apr 25 15:32:52 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:There aren't really any screencaps anymore DB Sun Apr 25 15:33:05 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:was the danube the last screencap? Sun Apr 25 15:33:09 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:yes Sun Apr 25 15:33:22 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Which is why it was replaced Sun Apr 25 15:33:57 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:I saw one episode on your site and I liked it..I'll have to try to find that archive you mentioned..Easy to find? Sun Apr 25 15:34:05 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Actually, the joke is that Rob's bedroom was the world's smallest sound stage. We've now graduated a larger room, making this the world's second smallest sound stage. Sun Apr 25 15:34:23 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:34:32 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:LOL Sun Apr 25 15:34:35 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Yes. Go to the episode list, where you will find links to the downloads. Sun Apr 25 15:34:38 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:to find the archive, go to our home page, then pulldown the menu at the upper right. Select "Episode List" Sun Apr 25 15:34:41 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:It's easy to download episodes, you just go to the episode page which is in the pulldown menu and select the episode you want to download. They're split into Act1 and Act2 so make sure to get both! Sun Apr 25 15:34:53 2004:Alterego [0/] Msg:Fascinating! I just wanna say that it appears to me you all are carring on the spirit of Genes Dream and I'll be checking out the episodes very soon. Another question Indy, Nemesis? Sun Apr 25 15:35:04 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:What about dial-up users? Sun Apr 25 15:35:05 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:not me, thanks Sun Apr 25 15:35:14 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Takes forever, MQ. Sun Apr 25 15:35:24 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:But it can be done. Sun Apr 25 15:35:25 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:dialup users must tolerate long downloads, unfortunately Sun Apr 25 15:35:29 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Dial up users will have a slower download, but if you set it to download overnight, it's do-able. Sun Apr 25 15:35:43 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Oh, I see. Sun Apr 25 15:35:45 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:quite a few of our fans are dialup users. Sun Apr 25 15:36:06 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:others wait 'til they get to school or work and download from there Sun Apr 25 15:36:10 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:So there’s not a high-speed version and low-speed version? Sun Apr 25 15:36:11 2004:nik [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:36:19 2004:nik [0/] Msg:hi everyone Sun Apr 25 15:36:23 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:No. Our storage space is limited. Sun Apr 25 15:36:26 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:The files are already compressed quite a bit. Sun Apr 25 15:36:39 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:there've been complaints that the diles are too small as it is Sun Apr 25 15:36:46 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:files* Sun Apr 25 15:37:11 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:How long does the typical episode take to make? Sun Apr 25 15:37:23 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Usually between 1 and 3 months. Sun Apr 25 15:37:42 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:depends on whether you count preproduction along with principal photography and post Sun Apr 25 15:37:57 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Yeah, that's actual production time. Sun Apr 25 15:37:59 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:if you count pre-, then it's a year Sun Apr 25 15:38:15 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Post is usually pretty short, on the order of weeks Sun Apr 25 15:38:22 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Are the episodes about 45 minutes long? Sun Apr 25 15:38:30 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:It varies. Sun Apr 25 15:38:34 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:closer to half hour Sun Apr 25 15:38:34 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:25-30 minutes usually Sun Apr 25 15:38:40 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Oh, ok Sun Apr 25 15:38:50 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Santa Q was our shortest. I'm not sure which was our longest. Sun Apr 25 15:38:58 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:They've been getting a bit longer iirc Sun Apr 25 15:39:08 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:yeah. my fault ;-) Sun Apr 25 15:39:17 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:39:26 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:Do you all have jobs and just do this in your spare time? Sun Apr 25 15:39:36 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:It seems like a huge undertaking. Sun Apr 25 15:39:38 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Just like "real" production, you can generally assume about a minute of screen time per page of script. Sun Apr 25 15:39:39 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:yeah. HF is an all-volunteer effort Sun Apr 25 15:39:58 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:How big a variety of alien characters have you had in your episodes? Sun Apr 25 15:40:01 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Yes, we always shoot on the weekends to not interfere with people's real lives. Sun Apr 25 15:40:11 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:I am medically retired, but the rest of our people all have jobs. Sun Apr 25 15:40:22 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:We've had quite a variety, and we've tried to bring back TOS aliens as well Sun Apr 25 15:40:32 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:like the tholians Sun Apr 25 15:40:36 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:That's great.. Sun Apr 25 15:40:37 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Dr. Henglaar was our first TOS alien. Sun Apr 25 15:40:39 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Tellarites Sun Apr 25 15:40:46 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:cardassians Sun Apr 25 15:40:50 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Andorians. Sun Apr 25 15:40:54 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:breen Sun Apr 25 15:41:01 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:cool..I like Andorians... Sun Apr 25 15:41:08 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:At least four aliens of our own devising as well. Sun Apr 25 15:41:08 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:We still have to do Caitians... Sun Apr 25 15:41:18 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:And Efrosians! Sun Apr 25 15:41:20 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:Have you had any tribbles? Sun Apr 25 15:41:27 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:41:29 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:ferengi, orions Sun Apr 25 15:41:35 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Me too, Tigger. My regular handle is "Thalek" for an Andorian character I created about 30 years ago. :-) Sun Apr 25 15:41:45 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:I think there was a tribble in the second episode on Captain Cole's desk... Sun Apr 25 15:41:46 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Caitians..I would love to see them.. Sun Apr 25 15:42:04 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Someday, perhaps. My makeup skills still need development. Sun Apr 25 15:42:31 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Henglaar, could you tell us a bit about your character? Sun Apr 25 15:42:33 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:In a bit more than two years I have gone from not knowing a thing about makeup to being the head of the makeup department and Sun Apr 25 15:42:34 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:We just had an episode where the good doctor spars with a Klingon over a woman Sun Apr 25 15:42:46 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:making my own foam rubber prostheses. Sun Apr 25 15:43:17 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:I'm hoping to eventually replace all of our slip latex prostheses (like the Ferengi headpiece) with foam rubber. Sun Apr 25 15:43:59 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:we've also had bajorans, a Dominion founder Sun Apr 25 15:44:08 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:But I'm a lousy sculptor, so doing a decent Caitian may take awhile. Sun Apr 25 15:44:22 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Did you get to the question about your character John? Sun Apr 25 15:44:34 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:I can't take credit for the Founder makeup. I believe Barbara did that one. Sun Apr 25 15:44:47 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:There's been a question about my character? Sun Apr 25 15:44:50 2004:nik [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:44:54 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:The good thing is that Caitians really haven't been done is Star Trek..So, you can do it however you want really.. Sun Apr 25 15:45:18 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:If you would please, tell us a bit about your character. Sun Apr 25 15:45:34 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Oh, you mean the question on whether Henglaar survives the swordfight with Qu'qul? Sun Apr 25 15:45:45 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:46:14 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:He doesn't wear a red shirt does he? Sun Apr 25 15:46:37 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:No, but we've had a couple red shirts just this season! ;-) Sun Apr 25 15:46:43 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:46:44 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Well, Dr. Henglaar was created a few years ago for our parent series, which we did for the u.s.s. Angeles fan club. Sun Apr 25 15:47:18 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:I wanted to create a character that even /I/ could portray, so I made Dr. Henglaar a lot like myself. Sun Apr 25 15:47:40 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:I see Sun Apr 25 15:47:47 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:I figure that he's also (on a good day) a lot like Dr. McCoy having a bad day. :-) Sun Apr 25 15:47:56 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:48:10 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:i like to think of Henglaar as lovably irascible Sun Apr 25 15:48:17 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Tellarites being those warm and personable people we all know and love. Sun Apr 25 15:49:18 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:I originally wrote him as a merely competent doctor, unlike the legendary McCoy, but the writers have "upgraded" him a bit since. He graduated with honors from Starfleet Medical, for example, which was news to me. Sun Apr 25 15:50:12 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Anything else, or did I cover it? Sun Apr 25 15:50:13 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:We also introduced a past love interest for Henglaar in our season finale which just aired Sun Apr 25 15:50:32 2004:hangon [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 15:50:36 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:And our Season 5 premiere comes out this week where that thread will get resolved. Sun Apr 25 15:50:39 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:THe woman who is with the Klingon? Sun Apr 25 15:50:41 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:You covered it. :) Sun Apr 25 15:50:44 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:and there are rumors the good doctor may yet find love again... Sun Apr 25 15:50:47 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:right Sun Apr 25 15:51:22 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Are there any more questions? Sun Apr 25 15:51:25 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Amusingly, the love triangle is with two of my friends with whom the rumor mill links me with in real life. This should just about confirm those rumors in some people's eyes. [grin] Sun Apr 25 15:51:25 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:And the Klingon is a doctor too no less! Sun Apr 25 15:51:49 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:52:23 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:One of Henglaar's lines is something to the effect of, "That barbaric Klingon medecine he practices, I thought he was a mortician" Sun Apr 25 15:52:44 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:lol Sun Apr 25 15:52:52 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:LOL Sun Apr 25 15:53:13 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:that was a great line, Henglaar! Sun Apr 25 15:53:16 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Mortician. Taxidermist. With Klingon medicine, it's sometimes hard to tell. [shrug] Sun Apr 25 15:53:17 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Klingon medicine..What a concept... lol Sun Apr 25 15:53:21 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:One of those Star Trek quotes that you can’t forget :) Sun Apr 25 15:54:27 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Any makeup questions? Sun Apr 25 15:55:15 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:John has been re-designing the look of the Grey that are seen in our pilot. Hopefully they'll be quite a bit more scary looking. Sun Apr 25 15:55:55 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:One alien you haven't mentioned is the Vulcans..No Vulcans or Romulans in any of your episodes? Sun Apr 25 15:56:03 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:yes! Sun Apr 25 15:56:07 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:we have a recurring vulcan character Sun Apr 25 15:56:12 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Oh.Good.. Sun Apr 25 15:56:12 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:We've beein trying to figure out how to make them look menacing, on a budget, and within my limited skills. We bought some appliances from the famous Woochie appliance makers that we think might do the trick. Sun Apr 25 15:56:19 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:her name is S'Tal Sun Apr 25 15:56:34 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:And we had a previous Vulcan, as well. Sun Apr 25 15:56:34 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:S'Tal..I like the name.. Sun Apr 25 15:56:41 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:she serves as an Ops officer aboard the Excelsior Sun Apr 25 15:57:00 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Her look just underwent a facelift too Sun Apr 25 15:57:04 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:she's featured on the second episode of our fifth season Sun Apr 25 15:57:14 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Ill look for her.. Sun Apr 25 15:57:20 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Yes. Normally, I don't like short hair, but on her, it looks very nice. Sun Apr 25 15:57:22 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:She can be seen in the new preview for our next episode that is online now at: Sun Apr 25 15:57:41 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Hmm, there's no page yet... Sun Apr 25 15:58:20 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Let me get my makeup handbook, and I can give you a full listing of the aliens we've done. Sun Apr 25 15:58:27 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Ok Sun Apr 25 15:58:33 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:cool Sun Apr 25 15:59:33 2004:areakt [0/] Msg: http://areakt.u24.infiniteray.com/previews/502Preview.mov Sun Apr 25 15:59:43 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:try that Sun Apr 25 16:00:04 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:I will Sun Apr 25 16:00:06 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:In no particular order, Cardassians (I'm proudest of those), Siroc (whatever his race turns out to be), Bajorans, Trill, Tellarites, Son'a, Vulcans, Klingons, Bre'elians, Tren La, Andorians, Orions, Ferengi Sun Apr 25 16:00:34 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Ah, yes the Son'a! Sun Apr 25 16:00:36 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Efrosians, the parasitical beastie from Conspiracy, and the alien said beastie infected. Sun Apr 25 16:00:47 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Tren La..What are they? Sun Apr 25 16:00:53 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:I don't recall any others. Sun Apr 25 16:00:59 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:original species Sun Apr 25 16:01:00 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:The Tren'La live deep in the Briar Patch. Sun Apr 25 16:01:07 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:the Tren'La are aliens we came up with for our show Sun Apr 25 16:01:11 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:But they were wiped out by the Grey. Sun Apr 25 16:01:27 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:another original Sun Apr 25 16:01:32 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Our first officer is Ellorian if that counts... Sun Apr 25 16:01:32 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:that's a spoiler rob! :) Sun Apr 25 16:01:37 2004:JGG [0/] AAS-Login: Sun Apr 25 16:01:50 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:El Aurian. But he doesn't need my tender ministsrations. Sun Apr 25 16:02:22 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:And most of the ladies do their own makeup, as well. Sun Apr 25 16:02:29 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:true Sun Apr 25 16:02:35 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:That preview was great! Thankx.. Sun Apr 25 16:02:59 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Thanks! Glad you liked it. Sun Apr 25 16:03:03 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Starting with the third season, many of the episodes have previews. Sun Apr 25 16:03:41 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:I'd like to think we have something for everyone. Story, drama, space battles, etc Sun Apr 25 16:04:06 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:It sounds neat. I'll be watching :) Sun Apr 25 16:04:11 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:We're also aware of our shortcomings, but we work hard on overcoming those. Sun Apr 25 16:04:13 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Again you can visit their website here: www.hiddenfrontier.org. Sun Apr 25 16:04:30 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Well thanks so much for coming. :) I wish we picked a better time, but oh well. However, the transcript will be available. We will also link to it on the homepage (the portal). Sun Apr 25 16:04:32 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:DS9 fans will be used to the episodic nature of the show, but it's fairly accessable to everyone since you can download episodes from the beginning too, or pickup midstream. Sun Apr 25 16:04:45 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Thanks George! Glad we could be here! Sun Apr 25 16:04:55 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:An honor, sir. Sun Apr 25 16:05:01 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Your very much welcome! Sun Apr 25 16:05:30 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:plus we've begun doing a "previously on Hidden Frontier" segment for new episodes Sun Apr 25 16:05:34 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Again, I wish we picked a better time. However, the transcript will be available.. Sun Apr 25 16:05:39 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Glad you came and chatted with us..I'll be watching... Sun Apr 25 16:05:42 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:cool Sun Apr 25 16:05:47 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:Thanks guy, it was very interesting Sun Apr 25 16:05:54 2004:Henglaar [0/] Msg:Then I shall bid you all a fond adieu. Take care. Sun Apr 25 16:05:58 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Thanks much :) Sun Apr 25 16:06:02 2004:Henglaar [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 16:06:03 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Thankx Sun Apr 25 16:06:46 2004:areakt [0/] Msg:Good day to you all! Sun Apr 25 16:06:51 2004:areakt [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 16:06:57 2004:JGG [0/] Msg:hiya Sun Apr 25 16:06:58 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:rob, we sticking around for more questions? Sun Apr 25 16:07:04 2004:dberry [0/] Msg:rob left Sun Apr 25 16:07:42 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Again, thanks for coming. Bye now. Sun Apr 25 16:07:44 2004:JGG [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 16:08:29 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:[The Chat Room Is Open] Sun Apr 25 16:08:47 2004:_carlos [0/] Msg:then i guess we're done. thanks for having us, master_q Sun Apr 25 16:08:59 2004:Indy [0/] Msg:Thanks everybody Sun Apr 25 16:09:07 2004:spacetigger [0/] Msg:Thanks Sun Apr 25 16:09:07 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:My pleasure Sun Apr 25 16:09:22 2004:master_q [0/] Msg:Bye Sun Apr 25 16:09:35 2004:_carlos [0/] Logout:_ Sun Apr 25 16:09:38 2004:dberry [0/] Logout:_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
