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To Kesfans Only-what are your favorite aspects of her?

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To the first comment there, Sara, thanks. If anyone should know about that certain Ocampa...as to the rest, well, it's just that someone kept pounding home, somewhat, the fact of their having only one decent thing to say abi out Kes, and then reiterating all the reasons why they did not. It gets old. And I have heard of worse than that, but I will leave it there. Needless to say, sometimes it's best to keep one's interests to oneself-or else, open oneself up to..critique...sometimes unwelcome to this degree or that. At any rate, i have said all on the matter, and 'nuff said. Perhaps there are more able posters, such as yourself, than I. Heck, I'm a little dry on ideas so far...you keep on Trekkin' with yours. You'll be an Admiral in no time! (Remember us little people when you get there! :notworthy:

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I can see what you mean VR. I had to excuse myself from a topic at another site because people weren't agreeing with me and it was driving me nuts. I'm not saying thats the case with you I'm just trying to say that I understand that someone could sort of feel ganged up on when the majority of people posting in your thread think you're wrong and have no qualms in saying so. We just have to remember that whether we like it or not we’re all family even if we hate each other’s favorite characters. :notworthy:

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^Great points VR.

 

About spinning Kes? Or Chinese penises?

 

I mean Voyager Recruit but I'm sure spinning Kes would be a great point for some people.. :notworthy:

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^Great points VR.

 

I think that the people who have posted in this thread have been respectful BTW. :notworthy:

 

seriously, nobody in this thread has said anything bad about kes

and I though that an internet forum was a place for open discussions of ideas, I didn't realized that only some ideas were allowed

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If someone started a "For Kes-Bashing Only" thread, wouldn't you feel inclined to post on it anyway?

 

To try and limit posting to only want you want to hear will, usually, just as it has here, become a greater source of distraction from the topic than not setting any limits and then simply ignoring opposing opinions would have.

 

Just saying...

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^Great points VR.

 

About spinning Kes? Or Chinese penises?

 

I mean Voyager Recruit but I'm sure spinning Kes would be a great point for some people.. :notworthy:

Unless you are Chinese.

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I don't understand what the problem is?

 

nobody is being mean or nasty or rude, and there's an interesting conversation going on

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Let's just table the entire issue..shall we? Nuff said, right or wrong. Peace out.

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I don't think we need to "table" the subject just because you weren't fond of a select few comments. There will always be people who disagree with you especially on a forum. I know some days I don't want to hear it either though. :notworthy:

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Let's just table the entire issue..shall we? Nuff said, right or wrong. Peace out.

 

seriously, what issue?

what happened?

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I loved her kindness and her overall beauty. Imo, she was a much underrated character in the Star Trek franchise that wasn't fully developed. Oh, yeah and I liked her ultra cool psychic powers too! :)

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This thread has been pretty respectful and tame. I don't think anyone's really bashed Kes... I'm not a fan of Kes, so I've chosen to refrain from posting on it. This thread's been good overall so far, even if not as true to course as originally hoped.

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As a viewer I don’t like things handed to me on a platter either however I think the writers missed an opportunity with the Kes/Neelix storyline and it started when they “broke up” around the time of Warlord. I also think they should have filled us in a bit in regard to what happened to Kes after she left Voyager that turned her so sour.

 

OMG I think back on things I did only a few years ago and can’t believe how stupid I was. :)

 

I think it was alright the way it was. Neelix became such a better person after breaking up with her

 

First of all, Neelix didn't break up with Kes. It was Kes who broke up with Neelix but she did that when Tieran was in control of her.

 

The break-up was badly handled by the writers. It should have been taking place during 3-4 episodes, maybe in season 2 after "Parturition" and been better written.

 

As for Neelix, he didn't become "better" after Kes broke up with him, he was basically the same old Neelix. I find it ridiculous to blame Kes for watever shortcomings Neelix may have had.

 

As for "what happened with Kes after she left Voyager" and that ridiculous appearance by monster in "Fury", there is simply no explanation for it since that "being" have no resemblance to Kes at all. Since the only purpose with that episode was to ruin and destroy Kes, the "writers" didn't bother to come up with any explanation at all.

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Excuse me, but isn't this a Star Trek forum?

 

Those who want to discuss sex or genitals can probably find some porno forum to do that.

 

Or play in the sand.

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If someone started a "For Kes-Bashing Only" thread, wouldn't you feel inclined to post on it anyway?

 

To try and limit posting to only want you want to hear will, usually, just as it has here, become a greater source of distraction from the topic than not setting any limits and then simply ignoring opposing opinions would have.

 

Just saying...

 

what is a message board for if not for oposing view points?

 

what did the OP expect?

"kes was nice"

"yes she was"

"yeah I think she was too"

"me too"

"she was pretty"

"yeah i think she was too"

"yeah, me too"

 

what's the point of that?

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Alright, I'm responsible for this forum and I guess it's time for me to step in (as I should have done much earlier).

 

I have removed all references to Chinese penises and spinning from the thread and I will do the same to any future references. They're off-topic and inappropriate for the Voyager forum. I regret not doing so sooner.

 

As for the topic of the thread itself. I am inclined to agree with my fellow mod. I will not remove opposing opinions from this thread as long as they expressed in an appropriate manner and IMO, all comments about Kes, even if they are criticisms, have been thus far been expressed appropriately.

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I loved her kindness and her overall beauty. Imo, she was a much underrated character in the Star Trek franchise that wasn't fully developed. Oh, yeah and I liked her ultra cool psychic powers too! :)

 

she did have some cool (if not all that unique) powers. I think being able to boil someone's blood or set things on fire would be able to come in handy sometime. One of my favorite visual effects in the whole show is in Fury where she's showing off her powers, walking down the corridor all bad ass with all the bulkheads exploding behind her. Awesome shot!

 

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I loved her kindness and her overall beauty. Imo, she was a much underrated character in the Star Trek franchise that wasn't fully developed. Oh, yeah and I liked her ultra cool psychic powers too! :)

 

she did have some cool (if not all that unique) powers. I think being able to boil someone's blood or set things on fire would be able to come in handy sometime. One of my favorite visual effects in the whole show is in Fury where she's showing off her powers, walking down the corridor all bad ass with all the bulkheads exploding behind her. Awesome shot!

 

STORY03N.jpg

 

Of course you have to bring up some crap from "Fury", the episode which was made to destroy the character.

 

And since you're definitely not a Kes fan, why are you posting here?

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Alright, I'm responsible for this forum and I guess it's time for me to step in (as I should have done much earlier).

 

I have removed all references to Chinese penises and spinning from the thread and I will do the same to any future references. They're off-topic and inappropriate for the Voyager forum. I regret not doing so sooner.

 

As for the topic of the thread itself. I am inclined to agree with my fellow mod. I will not remove opposing opinions from this thread as long as they expressed in an appropriate manner and IMO, all comments about Kes, even if they are criticisms, have been thus far been expressed appropriately.

 

 

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Alright, I'm responsible for this forum and I guess it's time for me to step in (as I should have done much earlier).

 

I have removed all references to Chinese penises and spinning from the thread and I will do the same to any future references. They're off-topic and inappropriate for the Voyager forum. I regret not doing so sooner.

 

As for the topic of the thread itself. I am inclined to agree with my fellow mod. I will not remove opposing opinions from this thread as long as they expressed in an appropriate manner and IMO, all comments about Kes, even if they are criticisms, have been thus far been expressed appropriately.

 

I can agree on that.

 

But if the original poster states that this is "for Kesfans only", shouldn't that be respected?

 

I must also state that a picture from "Fury" may be seen as provocative since almost all Kes fans hate that episode because of the attempt to character destruction in that episode.

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This thread has been pretty respectful and tame. I don't think anyone's really bashed Kes... I'm not a fan of Kes, so I've chosen to refrain from posting on it. This thread's been good overall so far, even if not as true to course as originally hoped.

 

agreed, this has been a great thread! great discussion so far :)

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another great use of her powers was in The Gift. Getting the device out of Seven's brain, making the console explode to stop her sabotage, and her ultimate gift of the 10,000 light years......great use of her powers!!!!

 

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Alright, I'm responsible for this forum and I guess it's time for me to step in (as I should have done much earlier).

 

I have removed all references to Chinese penises and spinning from the thread and I will do the same to any future references. They're off-topic and inappropriate for the Voyager forum. I regret not doing so sooner.

 

As for the topic of the thread itself. I am inclined to agree with my fellow mod. I will not remove opposing opinions from this thread as long as they expressed in an appropriate manner and IMO, all comments about Kes, even if they are criticisms, have been thus far been expressed appropriately.

 

I can agree on that.

 

But if the original poster states that this is "for Kesfans only", shouldn't that be respected?

 

I must also state that a picture from "Fury" may be seen as provocative since almost all Kes fans hate that episode because of the attempt to character destruction in that episode.

First of all, I am not going to remove a screen cap of a Star Trek episode from a Star Trek message board, under almost any circumstances. I would only consider it if it had been modified in an inappropriate manner and in which case, it really wouldn't be a screen cap anymore.

 

As for the whole "Kesfans only" thing, I've reviewed the thread, no one has said that they hate Kes or not stated at least one positive aspect of her character. There have been some valid criticisms and I am going to allow that. That's my final word on the subject.

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