Borgpires

[Wishfire 2]

This thread was inspired by 3 of 7's recent post in one of my other threads, "Which Anne Rice Vampire are you?"

 

It brought to mind a question... But first a little detail for understanding.

 

According to the vampire novels by Anne Rice, a vampire is created when he/she is drained almost to death, then drinks the blood of a vampire. But that doesn't always seem to be entirely true. For those familiar with Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles, Lestat describes how his Maker, Magnus, unearthed a sleeping vampire and took in it's blood, therefore becoming a vampire. The story seems to suggest that Magnus worked alone. If he drained his blood to the point of death, he would most likely have been to weak to take the vampire's blood. Which seems to indicate that no matter how much of your own blood you have left, if you drink enough of the vampire's blood you'll become a vampire.

 

The Borg assimilate people through nanoprobes. Seems to me that Anne Rice's vampires' blood works in a similar way.

 

So here's the questions: If a Borg tried to assimilate a vampire, would it become a vampire Borg? And if the vampire tried to turn the Borg into a vmapire, would it become a Borg vampire?

[3 of 7 0]

So here's the questions: If a Borg tried to assimilate a vampire, would it become a vampire Borg? And if the vampire tried to turn the Borg into a vmapire, would it become a Borg vampire?

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Good question. I believe that the vampire will be a standard Borg with fangs if assimilated. ( Since Borg don't need to eat or drink to survive. )

 

At to the other part of your question, if the vampire did got any chance to take the Borg ( that's a big if ), the result could be a Borg wampire.

 

But to be honest, I'm not sure.

 

Edited December 21, 2004 by 3 of 7

[Wishfire 2]

The way I see it, the vampires are very quick, so they could simply "appear" behind any Borg and bite. Of course, that doesn't mean that the Borg would drink the vampire's blood..

 

Also, the Borg are generqally slow, but they seem to assimilate their shar of people. Chances are they'd catch a vampire now and then. But would the vampire's remaining humanity be assimilated, like so many other species, or would their bloodthirst be integrated?

 

Honestly, I'd hate to see a blood-thirsty Borg...

[3 of 7 0]

Honestly, I'd hate to see a blood-thirsty Borg...

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Same here!

 

But would the vampire's remaining humanity be assimilated, like so many other species, or would their bloodthirst be integrated?

 

Hmm... well.. Perhaps the vampire's remaining humanity would be assimilated, actually I believe so. About the bloodthirst, maybe it would be integrated, but like I said, the Borg do not eat or drink to survive, so it would perhaps go away.

 

The way I see it, the vampires are very quick, so they could simply "appear" behind any Borg and bite.

 

Well, the Borg could aslo simply "appear" behind a vampire! Remember, the Borg have transporter technology. :lol:

 

Edited December 21, 2004 by 3 of 7

[Wishfire 2]

True, but the vampire's one major characteristic is that they require blood to survive. While people need food to survive, they can consume artificial sustenance and be just fine. What about vampires? They need blood, no questions asked. Maybe if the Collective could feed them blood in a manner as all other Borg recieve energy and other sustenance, then maybe. In that case, these assimilated vampires would be a dradful threat. But could the Borg assimilate their powers, as well? Would the Borg prosper from the vampires' superior intellect? Or would they suffer from their inquenchable thirst?

[3 of 7 0]

True, but the vampire's one major characteristic is that they require blood to survive. While people need food to survive, they can consume artificial sustenance and be just fine. What about vampires? They need blood, no questions asked. Maybe if the Collective could feed them blood in a manner as all other Borg recieve energy and other sustenance, then maybe. In that case, these assimilated vampires would be a dradful threat.

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True, the Borg have some device ( don't remember the name ) in their body which gives them all the extra neutritions they needs besides energy. So an assimilated vampire will be just fine.

 

But could the Borg assimilate their powers, as well?

 

Yepp, I believe they could.

 

Would the Borg prosper from the vampires' superior intellect?

 

Since the Borg themselfes are highly intellectual, it wouldn't make any difference.

 

Or would they suffer from their inquenchable thirst?

 

I don't think so.

 

Edited December 21, 2004 by 3 of 7

[Wishfire 2]

True, but the vampire's one major characteristic is that they require blood to survive. While people need food to survive, they can consume artificial sustenance and be just fine. What about vampires? They need blood, no questions asked. Maybe if the Collective could feed them blood in a manner as all other Borg recieve energy and other sustenance, then maybe. In that case, these assimilated vampires would be a dradful threat.

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True, the Borg have some device ( don't remember the name ) in their body which gives them all the extra neutritions they needs besides energy. So an assimilated vampire will be just fine.

 

But could the Borg assimilate their powers, as well?

 

Yepp, I believe they could.

 

Would the Borg prosper from the vampires' superior intellect?

 

Since the Borg themselfes are highly intellectual, it wouldn't make any difference.

 

Or would they suffer from their inquenchable thirst?

 

I don't think so.

 

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I see your point, but the thing is, vampires are not only physiologically, but also psychologically changed from the humans they once were. There are creature that they couldn't assimilate. Species 8472, for example. how do we know that vampires wouldn't be similar to Species 8472?

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I see your point, but the thing is, vampires are not only physiologically, but also psychologically changed from the humans they once were. There are creature that they couldn't assimilate. Species 8472, for example. how do we know that vampires wouldn't be similar to Species 8472?

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Vampires are humanoids, and I believe that no humanoid is immune to assimilation.

 

You see, Species 8472 are not humanoids.

 

Edited December 21, 2004 by 3 of 7

[Wishfire 2]

But the physiological and pshycological make-up of a vampire is completely different than other humanoids. How many other humanoids can move and quickly as a vampire? There's not even many computers (in the Trek universe) that can process data as quickly as a vampire.

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But the physiological and pshycological make-up of a vampire is completely different than other humanoids. How many other humanoids can move and quickly as a vampire?

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I don't think that matter. They would propably be assimilated anyway.

 

There's not even many computers (in the Trek universe) that can process data as quickly as a vampire.

 

The Borg can process data quickly, too.

 

[Wishfire 2]

Yeah, but the the Borg are obviously not advanced enough to defeat the Federation, which is (seemingly) mostly human. A vampire's mental capacity is an uncountable amount of power beyond humans.

 

If the Borg can be defeated be humans, it seems to be that humans are mentally at least as advanced as the Borg. But vampires are, mentally, fast enough to make the Federation's fastest computers look sluggish. And what if a vampire that was over 1000 years old got assimilated. It would take the Borg quite a while to assimilate all that new knowledge.

 

The Borg have been shown to assimilate experience, not only technical skill. A vampire that over 1000 years old would take several times longer to assimilate than someone who's only 30 years old. That difference could mean victory for the Federation, or singular defeat for that vampire (meaning that (s)he is able to beat the Borg).

[BakulaBabe 2]

This is a facinating thread! (hope I'm not too far behind in the discussion ) As fast as vampires are, it seems the best way for a Borg to assimilate a vampire is during the daytime, when the vampire is inactive. The Collective would definitely benefit from the vampire's knowledge, but all the vampire would get is access to the hive mind. The vampire would probably maintain its bloodthirst, and it seems reasonable that the Borg that assimilated the vampire would aquire the vampire's bloodthirst.

 

Hmm, would the assimilated vampire still be immortal, and would the assimilating Borg gain immortality? Holy Moly, an immortal, bloodthirsty Borg...

 

BTW, here's a good vampire rescource...Vampire Rave

 

http://www.vampirerave.com//index.php

Edited December 23, 2004 by BakulaBabe

[3 of 7 0]

Yeah, but the the Borg are obviously not advanced enough to defeat the Federation, which is (seemingly) mostly human.

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The Federation is not mostly humans, because there are about 150 planets in the UFP, and the humans comes from only one of them ( Earth ). So there are 150 different races in the UFP.

 

The Borg have been shown to assimilate experience, not only technical skill. A vampire that over 1000 years old would take several times longer to assimilate than someone who's only 30 years old.

 

It doesn't take longer time to assimilate experience, because it's enough to assimilate the people, and the rest just follows.

 

If the Borg can be defeated be humans, it seems to be that humans are mentally at least as advanced as the Borg.

 

It's rather easy to defeat the humans for the Borg, it's then the humans compain the might with many different species ( like they do in the UFP ), that there is abit of a problem for the Borg.

 

it seems to be that humans are mentally at least as advanced as the Borg. But vampires are, mentally, fast enough to make the Federation's fastest computers look sluggish.

 

Borg are more mentally advanced then humans. The Borg can, just like the vampires, make the Federation's fastest computers look sluggish. After all, the Borg are cyborgs. :borgqueen: