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I agree 100% that this Star Trek is Star Trek, but heaven help anyone who says that over at TrekUnited forums - there are an awful lot of sour pusses that dislike J.J. Abrams version of Star Trek, and a few act like Star Trek fandom revolves around their opinion. In the case of a vocal group, their opinion of this movie is poor to the point that a few declare Star Trek as dead, because it's not another First Contact or Insurrection or Enterprise.

 

Count me as NOT a member of those sour pusses. And if I see one more person deify Roddenberry, and spew more nonsense about Roddenberry's "vision" (like one post tonight that said, and I quote "I couldn't care the less (abut home much money this new movie is making), if this is the Star Trek of the future, I am done with it and stay close to 43 years of ideals and values and visions.", then I may throw up on them.

Okay, I saw 11. Not sure if I can put spoilers in here, so I won't...But I am sorry that they screwed with the established history. Sure, it can be explained away with one little comment as "parallel universes" or "alternate reality" or even "new timeline," but I am not happy with the changes. .... I am done.

Oh, you're done? Oh, sorry, I sort faded away during your rant.

 

I'm nearly 50 years old. Been a Star Trek fan for 40 plus of those years. James Blish short story collections of TOS episodes. Star Trek Novels. God only knows how much money I spent on Starlog magazine ads of different, limited edition books. Met my wife when she was wearing a Next Gen communicator pin as a broach. Our dog, we named him Sisko.

 

So, please, take this as being from the heart when I say "Bitch, bitch, bitch. Piss 'n moan, piss n' moan." Who give a damn if it pisses you off. This movie was a darn good reboot of the franchise, because it's need to get more new fans or commercially, it was going to die off.

 

One other thing: Star Trek is intellectual property, owned by Paramount for movies, CBS for TV. They have a fiduciary obligation to their stockholders to do whatever it takes to legally make a buck, and not spend money to make just the old time fans happy, when the declining TV ratings and box office receipts show there haven't been enough of us remaining interested in Star Trek to justify spending the money continuing it.

 

This isn't your father's Star Trek. Get over it, and start enjoying Star Trek 2.0 or move on.

 

Personally, I'd rate this movie a 5 out of 5 as an action film and a 6 out of 5 as a successful Star Trek film. Out-freaking-standing.

From:

 

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-repo...over-neonopoli/

 

Starship Enterprise in holding pattern over Neonopolis

 

By John Katsilometes · May 5, 2009 · 5:59 PM

 

The once-optimistic plans to open phases of Star Trek Experience at Neonopolis in concert with the new “Star Trek” movie on a single date -- May 8 -- have been beamed to some far-off galaxy. The Experience won’t open until 2010 at the earliest, Rohit Joshi, head of the development company that owns Neonopolis, confirmed today. He added that the exhibit will not open in phases, but as a single entity. A few hours later, the wily entrepreneur also confirmed that Galaxy Neonopolis 11 movie theaters are closing as of Friday, and that he would reopen the cineplex, often as vacant as the sparsely inhabited planets favored by Captain Kirk, once it has been remodeled.

 

Joshi has not yet said why the theaters need to be renovated starting on the very day the “Star Trek” film is set to open, or who would manage the remodeled theater complex when (or maybe, if) it reopens. One published report indicated that Galaxy was pulling out of Neonopolis because bills for the complex’s centralized air conditioning system went unpaid, and Galaxy was unwilling to continue reimbursing customers’ parking fees by validating tickets from the Neonopolis garage. But Joshi’s account is that the theaters are to be remodeled as part of Neonopolis’ grand renovation project, which could be finished in a matter of months or maybe eons, when “Star Trek XXX: Grandson of Spock” hits theaters.

 

Regardless, what was to be a triumphant week at Neonopolis with the arrival of the Star Trek brand (in the form of a restaurant/tavern and gift shop) in tandem with the heavily attended premiere of the new Trek film is instead another dull weekend at the retail and entertainment complex. For the foreseeable future, Neonopolis will be absent a movie theater and without any semblance of its Star Trek attraction. Customarily, Joshi promises “great stuff” from the Star Trek Experience but can’t specify what the stuff will be or how it will be shaped. It will be huge, he says. There will be a new concept, he claims.

 

A spokesman for CBS, which owns the Star Trek title licensing rights, today said in an e-mail that no solid opening date has been set because the exhibit is still in development. Sort of like Neonopolis itself, where progress is not quite measured at warp speed.

Without a doubt, Star Trek will end up as the number one movie this weekend: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30670662

 

Box office results

Estimated ticket sales for May 8-10

 

1. "Star Trek," $72.5 million.

2. "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," $27 million.

3. "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past," $10.45 million.

4. "Obsessed," $6.6 million.

5. "17 Again," $4.4 million.

6. "Next Day Air," $4 million.

7. "The Soloist," $3.6 million.

8. "Monsters vs. Aliens," $3.4 million.

9. "Earth," $2.5 million.

10. "Hannah Montana: The Movie," $2.4 million

`Star Trek' has whopping $76.5 million opening - Link Here

 

I would say this is a successful reboot of the franchise. Now I hope this influences Star Trek - The Experience's reopening at Neonopolis Mall in Las Vegas.

`Star Trek' boldly goes to $31M at box office - Link Here

 

Paramount is estimating that they will be near or at $70 million by the time the weekend is over. All I have to say is "Wow".

Well I won't get used to it and you shouldn't either. I have news for you, it is the minority who decides the future of TV & Movie franchises in this world not the majority. Lots of great shows got canceled because of people like me and movies never saw sequals because of people like me, GET USED TO IT. And by the way when Gene was alive, he owned the rights to Star Trek so I assure you if he was still around this movie would have never been made.

One, I loved it, so tough. Two, in what world does a minority of the audience decide the future of a for-profit venture like a movie. No, never mind. I don't want to know how you think. You have your opinion, and I have mine.

 

BTW, for the rest of you - Star Trek made $7 million just last night alone - http://www.variety.com/article/VR111800338...yid=13&cs=1

 

From that article (and kfowler5, I think this will this annoy the living sh** out of you):

 

J.J. Abrams' reboot of the classic sci-fi franchise currently stands as the best-reviewed movie of the year, earning a 96% ranking on Rotten Tomatoes.

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How can anyone tell me that destroying Vulcan was great. And the Enterprise looks to futuristic to be in the 23rd century. My god can't anyone leave 43 years of canon alone. If they wanted to do a movie like this it sould have been based in the future, that way even the di-hard fans would be happy. No all we want to do barf.

Don't agree with you in the least, especially on

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the idea of leaving 43 years of canon alone.

One, it's fiction,and two , it's science fiction. Nothing is written in stone. If Spock's death at the end of Wrath of Kahn and his resurrection in the Search for Spock didn't tell you that liberties can be taken, then nothing will. I'm 50 years old, and have been a fan for the vast majority of Star Trek's existence, and I for one am extremely glad they rebooted this series and the Star Trek genre. It was getting long in the tooth. So, no,

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they can't leave 43 years of canon alone

, and they shouldn't.

 

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but rest assured that even among "die hard fans", the majority who have already seen this movie enjoyed it, and the rest that will see (again, and again) will enjoy it. This movie has given the franchise a new lease on life.

First when spock died and he was resurrected, Gene Roddenberry made sure Paramount the explaination of Spocks return was believable. And yes they should take some liberies, but destroying vulcan was over the line. Well sir I am 70 years old and have been a Star Trek fan all my life not most of my life like you. Any star trek fan who like this is not a die-hard fan, they just like the special effects. So you think it's ok to rewrite history, fine how would you like it if they rewrote the history of WW II like the holocaust never happening, I know I wouldn't I fought in it. But thats right you were just a glimmer in your fathers eye during the time when real history was being made. And yes it is Science Fiction which means it has to be believable. And real Star Trek fans like to see continuaty in their shows. And as for the technology, fine they have been tech but Gene Roddenberry would have made sure that was also explained properly. And finally I believe 100% if Gene Rodddenberry was alive he would have never let this film be made they way it was made, And I have news for everyone out there Star Trek was Gene's brainchild and everyone seems to forget how he would have liked Star Trek to continue, and I assure you this was not the way he would have wanted it to continue. And this movie is a discrace to his memory.

Well, the fact is that Gene Roddenberry has been gone a long time, and those that worked with him, and succeed him have delivered several products, movies and TV, that have had continually diminishing audience. No one knows what Gene Roddenberry would want now, and it's an unknown whether he could connect with a younger audience. The fact that Star Trek was Gene's brainchild is completely irrelevant. Audiences change. What appeals to that audience either changes or fails. And rewriting a piece of science fiction history doesn't come any where near being the same thing as trying to rewrite actual history, like World War II. Your service to our country, admirable as it should be, and notwithstanding, making a comparison between a work of fiction like star Trek and the real history of World War II was a bit ridiculous.

 

I'll repeat what I posted before: This movie has given the franchise a new lease on life. It's going to go a long way toward resurrecting Star Trek in the minds of a greater audience. Had they got hung up on please the minority of fans who are, in turn, hung up on the "canon", the likelihood of appealing to a wider audience goes way down.

 

I don't agree with your statement that this movie was a disgrace to Gene's memory, but if that's your opinion, well...so be it. I doubt that Paramount would have kept Gene around after the way the ratings on the various TV series and the box office receipts of the movies kept falling. Your reaction to movie brought one thing to mind - one commercial I saw for the movie last week that said "This isn't your father's Star Trek."

 

This movie has given the franchise a new lease on life. It's going to go a long way toward resurrecting Star Trek in the minds of a greater audience. Enjoy it or don't. Either way, this is now the direction Star Trek takes. Get used to it.

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How can anyone tell me that destroying Vulcan was great. And the Enterprise looks to futuristic to be in the 23rd century. My god can't anyone leave 43 years of canon alone. If they wanted to do a movie like this it sould have been based in the future, that way even the di-hard fans would be happy. No all we want to do barf.

Don't agree with you in the least, especially on

One, it's fiction,and two , it's science fiction. Nothing is written in stone. If Spock's death at the end of Wrath of Kahn and his resurrection in the Search for Spock didn't tell you that liberties can be taken, then nothing will. I'm 50 years old, and have been a fan for the vast majority of Star Trek's existence, and I for one am extremely glad they rebooted this series and the Star Trek genre. It was getting long in the tooth. So, no, , and they shouldn't.

 

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but rest assured that even among "die hard fans", the majority who have already seen this movie enjoyed it, and the rest that will see (again, and again) will enjoy it. This movie has given the franchise a new lease on life.

Absolutely the best Star Trek movie. period. A successful gamble to "reboot" the franchise. Easily the most enjoyable time I've ever had at the movies, and my wife & I too plan to see it again, possibly in IMAX. This ain't your father's Star Trek, and I'm 50 years old, and a fan since my youth. J.J. Abrams did a fine job, as did all of the cast.

It is very cool as long as you stay right on the few blocks that have been redone.

 

 

Problem is that the Monorail doesn't have a stop right at that location so you either have to walk there or take a taxi.

"The Deuce" - the double decker bus system Vegas has on the strip, goes to Fremont Street. If you're already staying in Vegas, especially on the strip, since the Deuce runs up and down both sides of the Strip, a pass for several says to a week is worth it, and it will take you to and from Fremont Street, and the Rio (which isn't right on the strip either).

More news on Star Trek: The Experience: http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/2008/11/...tml?star%20trek, staying in Las Vegas, but moving to Neonopolis mall at the end of Fremont Street.

 

The biggest draw could be the Star Trek Experience, which recently completed a decadelong run at the Las Vegas Hilton.

 

"The museum and the arts center will represent the past and the present and the Star Trek Experience will represent the future," Joshi said.

 

The Star Trek Experience will have five components and most elements could be completed next year, when a new Star Trek movie is scheduled for release. Just as the new movie will have some familiar characters in some unfamiliar roles, the Star Trek Experience will be similar but different from its predecessor and includes significant upgrades.

 

There will be a food and beverage component, which will include a restaurant and lounge and a retail area with merchandise from all incarnations of the Star Trek concept. Star Trek fans are incredibly loyal and if the latest movie sparks yet another generation of supporters, the retail element could be very successful.

 

A museum that explores the entire history of Star Trek is also planned.

 

There will also be a 4-D movie theater designed to be an interactive experience with high-tech seats that will stimulate the senses.

 

"They will recreate sights, sounds and smells and take your body traveling through space," Joshi said.

 

The final element will be simulators - rides that are two levels high in Neonopolis' center court.

 

Although the project seems ambitious, especially in a down economy, Joshi says he has the backers to pay for the project and also the go-ahead from CBS Pictures, which owns the licensing rights to Star Trek.