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    Personally, I think I would've been fine born several hundred years in the future- or in the past. What I want is to explore, go places no one has ever been, see things no one has ever seen. That's something I could've done in the past, or the future, but it's a bit hard now.

     

    That said, there are still places we can explore right here on earth, and I intend on doing so.

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    2. Where was the Relativity (and other timeships) during all this? Isn't it their job to fix when people mess with the timeline?

    I kept expecting it to fade to the Relativity at the end and show them resetting the timeline.

     

    Perhaps the technology that allowed ships like the Relativity to go back in the same timeline (without branching off into a different one) would have been invented by the Vulcans that were not born because of the planet's implosion. Or maybe the timeships can only detect and respond to changes in their timeline, not alternates. (Or maybe since their timeline wasn't changed they didn't bother fixing other timelines.) Or maybe the altered history never led to the Enterprise-B rescuing Guinan from the Nexus. (I suspect that Guinan's ability to detect changes in the timeline came from her experience in the Nexus rather than being inherent to the El Aurian species.) There are all kinds of possible in-canon explanations.

     

    Of course there isn't an in-canon explanation as to why the Enterprise successfully used light-speed breakaway to get to 1960s Earth in Assignment: Earth and yet the technology was still theoretical in The Voyage Home. However, since the technology worked twice, it would seem an actual timeship is unnecessary anyway.

     

    To be fair, both Spocks did acknologe they were in an altered timeline. However, the dialog was rather fast for non-Trekkies to understand. Even I barely caught it when it was mentioned. Maybe the actors should have slowed this down a bit or diagramed it the way Doc Brown did in the Back to the Future series.

     

    I thought of that after I posted. You're probably right.

     

    I did catch that it was an "altered timeline" but for some reason, I still kept thinking the timeline would be reset in the end.

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    I got back from seeing Star Trek XI about an hour ago and here's my thoughts...

     

    I liked it, I liked it a lot. I also didn't like things about it, some things a lot lol. It (the movie) kind of brought out both like and dislike for me. Here's why:

     

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    Having Chekov on the bridge at age 17 with Cpt Pike was just incorrect. To me, sitting in the theater it said to me "that shows that someone looked at the surface of Star Trek history, pulled out names and threw them into the script without looking at time frames or whatnot".

     

    Now I haven't checked to see the ages of the characters at the time frame of the movie so maybe it could all work out since it's an alternate time line but Checkov and Sulu on Pikes bridge was just wrong.

     

    That said though, it was minor. Not at all something to be upset about or hate the movie over. As I was watching before I fully accepted the "alternate time line" aspect I was enjoying the movie but annoyed with the changes none the less. After I forced myself to recognize the alternate time line like we would with Yesterday's Enterprise I let go of those annoyances and just watched the movie.

     

    The only annoyance that I left the theater with was the destruction of Vulcan, the death of Amanda and that they didn't "fix it all" in the end. If they don't "fix it" at some point then I don't see how this Star Trek can fit into the "Star Trek Universe". Destroying Vulcan and killing Amanda along with other changes totally destroys the history that is already on film. How can TNG happen if TOS didn't? How can DS9 and Voyager happen if TNG didn't?

     

    I also didn't really care for the introduction of new aliens. Too much of a "Star Wars" feel with the big headed alien on the bridge of the Kelvin and I really didn't care for the big monsters trying to eat Kirk. Too much of a gimmick I felt. Also, what's up with the Romulans? Yes we as Trek fans accepted the change in makeup for the Klingons from TOS to TMP. We understood that it was needed for a better visual. It was ok. There weren't that many hours of Klingons on TOS at that point. But the Romulans are well established from TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. I didn't like the way they were made up at all.

     

    Did they "hit the mark" or "miss the mark" with this movie? Well that's something each fan will have to answer for themselves. In some aspects I think they tried a little too hard but it wasn't too much like it was in the second Matrix movie.

     

    I took my mother to see it, she was a big Star Trek fan going back into the 60's with TOS's first run. As we left the movie her first comment was that it was the best of any of the movies. Then little by little she began mentioning some of the things that she didn't care for, which for the most part were similar to mine. It was funny though, she did comment that some of the aliens belonged in a Star Wars movie but not a Star Trek movie lol.

     

    I liked some of the references to Trek history though, especially when Scotty was talking about how he tried to transport Admiral Archers pet Beagle someplace but it hasn't yet re-materialized lol. Poor Porthos (I'm sure it would have had to be a great-great-grand puppy of the real Porthos though lol).

     

    For anyone that reads this before seeing the movie, don't let it deter you from going. It was still a very good movie even if you choose to view it as a "stand alone" outside of the "Star Trek Universe".

     

    I won't say that this is the "best" of the 12 movies but it's better than ST V and ST X for sure. For me nothing can top ST II though. All in all, it was a really good movie. Non-Trekkies will enjoy it, Trekkies will enjoy it but be slightly annoyed and die hard Trekkies while they enjoy it, I believe will be more than a little annoyed at some aspects.

     

    Well, I was going to write a review, but your review say just about everything I wanted to say...

     

    A few thing I'd like to add:

     

    1. The Enterprise was not built on the ground! It's to big, THAT is something that should not have been changed by the altered timeline.

     

    2. Where was the Relativity (and other timeships) during all this? Isn't it their job to fix when people mess with the timeline?

    I kept expecting it to fade to the Relativity at the end and show them resetting the timeline.

     

     

    Overall I enjoyed it, but I would have liked it better if they fixed a few of the tech errors (i.e. Enterprise being built on the ground) and reset the timeline at the end.