Spudgun 0 Posted February 22, 2004 should they bring Kirk back to help bost the rattings of Enterprise? thats the question that is floating around the net......IMO is no, I dont think any thing is going to save Enterprise,but I would like to see Kirk return...........what do the board think? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted February 22, 2004 I think a letter writing campaign could save ENT. It got TOS a third season, TOS revived as movies, and the space shuttle named Enterprise. :) Why wouldn't it save ENT? As for bringing Kirk back, I wouldn't like to see this happen. William Shatner looks a lot older than when Kirk died, so it wouldn't be believable. I would, however, like to see William Shatner play Kirk's ancestor in the 22nd century. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beam me up 0 Posted February 22, 2004 That would be interesting. James Kirk's great uncle was the captain of a starship or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ensign_ro 0 Posted February 22, 2004 we have already seen an ensign kirk in one of the episodes on ent.. he was in the mess hall.. i think he said 2 words! i cant remeber which ep it was though.. but he was on there i swear! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 1 Posted February 22, 2004 ensign_ro, the character to which you are referring was in Broken Bow. However, this was in the script only and I think another name has grown to be accepted. "Ensign Fletcher", I believe. I removed Kirk from the manifest because there was no canon source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ensign_ro 0 Posted February 22, 2004 but i heard tucker say ensign kirk! i heard the words that came from the tv! i swear it! i heard it i swear it was an enign kirk! kirk is already on ent! we just have to have the character shown more! you gotta belive me! it hink i have the ep on tape! ill watch it over and over! im not imagining it! and i have the skript too! meep! just never mind.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ddillard 2 Posted February 23, 2004 but i heard tucker say ensign kirk! i heard the words that came from the tv! i swear it! i heard it i swear it was an enign kirk! kirk is already on ent! we just have to have the character shown more! you gotta belive me! it hink i have the ep on tape! ill watch it over and over! im not imagining it! and i have the skript too! meep! just never mind.. That is very interesting. What was the name of the episode? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 5 Posted February 23, 2004 should they bring Kirk back to help bost the rattings of Enterprise? thats the question that is floating around the net......IMO is no, I dont think any thing is going to save Enterprise,but I would like to see Kirk return...........what do the board think? I wouldn't write Enterprise off just yet..I believe it's a good show and will make it's 7 year run..But on to the question.... I would like to see Shatner guest star on Enterprise as an ancestor of James Kirk...That could be very interesting if done well and with the right story..But the only way I can see James Kirk being on Enterprise is thru a time travel story and I'm not sure it would be that believable.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted February 23, 2004 That would be interesting. James Kirk's great uncle was the captain of a starship or something like that. Well, it would have to be more like Kirk's great-grandfather, but I'd love to see Shatner return as Kirk's great-grandfather! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted February 23, 2004 I think it would be a bit corny. Maybe something involving the Nexus? The actual Kirk is scooped up by 29th century time travellers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spudgun 0 Posted February 24, 2004 thank you for all your repiys............... :ph34r: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace 0 Posted February 24, 2004 (edited) I can see it now, Kirk's great-grandfather shows up to advertise Priceline.com to the crew of the Enterprise. I'd definitely watch if he made an appearance, but I'm not a big fan of gimmick guest-casting. As Prommie said, it would seem a little corny to me. :ph34r: Edited February 24, 2004 by Ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Shirt Volunteer 0 Posted February 26, 2004 Oh please no! Yes, stop the madness. Shatner should just fade away instead of dragging out his dead career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Kirk 1 Posted February 26, 2004 (edited) I think bringing Shatner in as one of JTK's ancestors would be a good idea. It would be another think linking ENT to TOS. Edited February 26, 2004 by Admiral Kirk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odo 0 Posted February 26, 2004 You don't really think thats a good ideal do you? I just do not think it would go over to well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lt. Evans 0 Posted February 26, 2004 (edited) Shatner playing Kirk's ancestor is a good idea. Or, alternatively someone else playing Cadet/Ensign Kirk comes aboard, and as he leaves (Re-assigned?) he turns to Captain Archer and says - "I've got to get me one of these..." Edited February 26, 2004 by Lt. Evans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyphrx 0 Posted February 27, 2004 I think it'd be nice to see Shatner back as Kirk. Maybe play it in with the TCW. Daniels plucks him after his death or something and ressurects him or something. Just an idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbree_dVelnahr 0 Posted March 4, 2004 Shatner playing Kirk's ancestor is a good idea. Or, alternatively someone else playing Cadet/Ensign Kirk comes aboard, and as he leaves (Re-assigned?) he turns to Captain Archer and says - "I've got to get me one of these..." The problem with bringing an "Ensign Kirk" aboard is that the time frame is all wrong. Kirk was only in his thirties, early thirties at that, when he took over the Enterprise. And the prequel, Enterprise, purportedly takes place about 100 years before Kirk's time. As for the TCW arch ... let's just not go there, I want to keep this friendly. T'Bree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILIKESEVEN 0 Posted March 4, 2004 i should say, let the man rest in peace no more Kirk he had his time, he was great, but he died two times, and i think that is enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrskirk 0 Posted March 5, 2004 I am all for William Shatner appearing on Enterprise...not as James T. Kirk, but as one of his ancestors. As for the idea being "corny", I disagree. Was Leonard Nimoy's appearance as Ambassador Spock in the TNG two-parter "Reunification" corny? Apparently, not too many people thought so. That episode was one of the highest rated TNG episodes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace 0 Posted March 5, 2004 (edited) That's a little different as the Vulcan lifespan makes that case entirely plausible. A closer correlation to this would be getting Dorn to play Worf's grandpappy in TUC, which, honestly, I thought was just a little bit corny at first. I grew to like that idea, though. As for Kirk, I still don't know. I'm with Ikbef - let the man rest in peace. B) Just my opinion, of course; I'd still watch. B) Edited March 5, 2004 by Ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Ericks 0 Posted March 5, 2004 I think it'd be nice to see Shatner back as Kirk. Maybe play it in with the TCW. Daniels plucks him after his death or something and ressurects him or something. Just an idea. To quote Dr. Evil "How 'bout no!" (sorry, couldn't reist) As for the whole idea of one of Kirk's ancestors being on Enterprise, as long as it's not something that would be the foucs of an entire episode, I' m sure it would be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garzo 0 Posted March 7, 2004 Aside from Shatner playing a Kirk ancestor, I think there is a way to negate the events of Generations while not ignoring the events of that film. An easy and "logical" way to explain Shatner's continued existance would be by way of Nexus. We never actually found out what Nexus was exactly. We know it was somekind of interdimensional plain whose properties remain a mystery. Who's to say that once inside the Nexus, a person cannot end up living in multiplie parallel realities within this zone? What if the Kirk that helped Picard was but one Kirk that left the Nexus, while the Nexus itself, like somekind of cosmic computer virus, simply multiplied or copied its content, making it possible for many different Kirks to continue living on parallel strands within the Nexus on various dimensional plains? They are all the same Kirk and so it would be theoritcally possible to bring him back this way. Kirk (or a Kirk copy, but Kirk nontheless) could have continued to live hundreds or thousands of years in the Nexus without growing old, and could have at some point in the future been rescued, grown older in the future. He could even have gone back to work for a future Federation and as an older representative of a future Federation, could return to the past along with Daniels or something to meet Archer and the rest of the Enterprise crew. Hell, he could also turn out to be the Future Guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archerfan 0 Posted March 7, 2004 he had his time, he was great, but he died two times, and i think that is enough Well said. I agree..I don't think it's possiable to bring Kirk or an ancestor in with out it seeming forced into the story. I certainly don't think it would help the ratings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spudgun 0 Posted March 7, 2004 (edited) he had his time, he was great, but he died two times, and i think that is enough Well said. I agree..I don't think it's possiable to bring Kirk or an ancestor in with out it seeming forced into the story. I certainly don't think it would help the ratings. ..............also isnt Mr Shatner a bit old now to play Kirk......it was TEN YEARS ago that Kirk died in genarations......... Edited March 7, 2004 by Spudgun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted March 7, 2004 should they bring Kirk back to help bost the rattings of Enterprise? As James T. Kirk? No. As an ancestor of JTK? Sure why not, he had to have had ancestors right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpocksBrain 0 Posted March 8, 2004 should they bring Kirk back to help bost the rattings of Enterprise? As James T. Kirk? No. As an ancestor of JTK? Sure why not, he had to have had ancestors right? A cameo would be very nice, and with nimoy as well... I don't think that they should have them as anyone in perticular, maybe just a simple walkthrough. Sorta like Deforest Kelly in "Encounter at Farpoint" that scene brings a tear to my eye... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites