Stephen of Borg 2 Posted July 7, 2009 This is it! The battle of battles!! Who do you like more, Kirk or Picard? This isn't a poll about your favorite captain (Janeway, Sisko, Archer) but between these two, who is your favorite? Even if you like both equally, you tend to like one more than the other. So, which is it? The epic battle of fandom has begun! Who is your favorite Kirk or Picard? You can give your reasons or not My vote is Kirk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted July 7, 2009 Kirk! Picard is a great captain and I enjoyed watching him deal with the issues of his time in his way but Cowboy Diplomacy was more fun imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted July 7, 2009 Without question....KIRK! Picard was too much of a tight-ass. ..lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royal Andorian 0 Posted July 7, 2009 I guess it would depend on if we're talking about Shatner's Kirk or pine's kirk. If its Shatner's Kirk then he would win. If its pine's then Picard gets my vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen of Borg 2 Posted July 7, 2009 This is about Shatner Kirk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Picard 12 Posted July 7, 2009 You may all have Kirk, by all means! *grin* I'll take my beloved Jean-Luc and we'll be on our way... :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted July 7, 2009 Picard was great on TNG but if I have to pick between the 2 then it's Kirk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethlehem 7 Posted July 7, 2009 For me it is a tie. Kirk was first, so will always be special. I however over the years have come to really appriciate Picard's character. I wish they had not killed Kirk's character off in Generations and they could have done another movie together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voyager recruit 0 Posted July 8, 2009 If asked to choose, then, respectfully, Kirk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ Phaserman 2 Posted July 8, 2009 if you ask me, i'd rather have picard over kirk any day. then again they're both equally reckless, more times messing up the space-time continuum between them than i would like to count, not to mention, they've both destroyed a vessel named enterprise!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voyager recruit 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Ah, but Jim 'turned death into a fighting chance to live'..even if he did sacrifice His Lady....as would Jean-Luc if rergretfully, for sake of his friends, and crew.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ Phaserman 2 Posted July 13, 2009 true....but picard was always prepared to die for his crew. kirk wasnt'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted July 13, 2009 true....but picard was always prepared to die for his crew. kirk wasnt'. Give just ONE example where Kirk wasn't....... :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ Phaserman 2 Posted July 13, 2009 i could say genesis....but i'd be talking out of my ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted July 13, 2009 i could say genesis....but i'd be talking out of my ass Thats what I thought you were doing....... :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ Phaserman 2 Posted July 13, 2009 than my name would be ace ventura wouldn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trekmachine 0 Posted July 14, 2009 true....but picard was always prepared to die for his crew. kirk wasnt'. Kirk gave his life to help the Enterprise B get out of the Nexus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voyager recruit 0 Posted July 15, 2009 Precisely. Jim valued those under his command greatly. Remember the death of poor Yeoman Thompson at the hands of the Kelvans in ''By Any Other Name?''...the expression on his face, as he held in his hands what remained of her...or when he faced not one but what, the deaths of two or more security guards in 'the Apple'....and the ultimate selfless act was at the end of Generations..where he died with a smile on his lips..knowing that 'He had made a difference'...and...''It was...fun.'' Both Captains, whatever their eras, were committed to defending the Federation, and all its peoples, to if need be, give up their lives-even those of their crew-to protect those countless beings. The Kobayashi Maru taught that, if you are in Starfleet, you had best be prepared to make that sacrifice..and even in so doing..go into that Undiscovered Country with grace...but then, some just hate to lose, so, we'll forgive Jim there... desiring to defeat death, is not the same as being also unwilling to accept-if it must come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ Phaserman 2 Posted July 15, 2009 true....but picard was always prepared to die for his crew. kirk wasnt'. Kirk gave his life to help the Enterprise B get out of the Nexus but didn't he go into the nexus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen of Borg 2 Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) no one, including he, knew that he would be sucked into the Nexus. He was willing to die to save the ship Edited July 15, 2009 by Stephen of Borg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ Phaserman 2 Posted July 15, 2009 all because of his record....i mean look at the number of times he's disobeyed starfleet to the number of times picard has? it's no wonder why he wouldn't be allowed to command a starship.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voyager recruit 0 Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) I will admit, that in the Shatner novels his impatience with the current Starfleet-which was quite knowingly and intentionally made a clear part of the fabric of much of the past tales-was borne out, and, as evidenced with some equal irritation from Admiral Janeway for his 'style'...but he acted, if outside the bounds, at whatever points, to do what he felt was crucial to what was so deeply affecting him in the books-such as the abduction of his son, rescuing his wife, etc....he has been branded a rebel, in the non-canon Shatbooks...but I think many fans still appreciate the full speed ahead style that, in the end, gets it done....and he is set apart that way from the other Trek captains-who, HOWEVER-in various moments-have had their little bursts of 'Insurrection'-wink wink..but Jean-Luc's came out of what he saw as a righteous cause-done as a remote Starfleet was unaware of goings on, true...and the future Kathryn tossed the TPD out the window..for the sake of two she loved-again, devotion to one's friends-crew...to me, to many a reader, a dramtic, powerfully moving, and completely human act....and Jonathan Archer would never have been afraid to do as he felt it morally necessary, if pushed to it...Kirk is 'colorful'. He is headstrong. He doesn't allow what he sees as ANY obstacle sway him, yes, at times...but this is part of what makes him the dynamic personality that has marked him as a legend, because he just doesn't quit...and if nothing else, THAT is a powerful thing. Not to 'argue' here..just to state some opinions, eh?....but, (wink, wink) I have a feeling Jean-Luc will in the non-canon books have that Admiral promotion-and keep it-Kirk did not. But, who wants to see Jim Kirk chained to a desk, in any time or place,when he can be out there 'hoppin' galaxies'.... Edited July 16, 2009 by Voyager recruit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrPsychic 1 Posted July 17, 2009 true....but picard was always prepared to die for his crew. kirk wasnt'. Kirk gave his life to help the Enterprise B get out of the Nexus but didn't he go into the nexus? Kirk didn't know what the nexus was, no one in the crew did. He did it cause the Captain's place is on the bridge. Kirk basically knew he could be killed by going down to the deflector control room. You can't say a sacrifice doesn't count cause he was brought back. A great example of Kirk sacrificing for his ship and crew was in "City on the Edge of Forever" when he let Edith Keeler die to let the future happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trekz 7 Posted July 19, 2009 I vote Picard. Kirk, though highly entertaining and the first Captain we met, was too brash and too much of a womanizer for me. Picard was more of a thinker and yet able to act when needed, and just as heroic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youbroughtheryouRiker 2 Posted July 19, 2009 Picard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerry 0 Posted July 25, 2009 Picard (tho if there'd been a choice of Kirks it might have been different :S) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ARMS 0 Posted December 9, 2010 1) New Kirk 2) Picard 3) Old Kirk in order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites