Stephen of Borg 2 Posted September 14, 2005 I was just wondering, who do you consider to have given the crew of the Enterprise the most trouble? In ways, all of them have, but I'd still say that it was the Suliban who were their main problem. Why I added Vulcans is because of the war of the words they have had and restrictions more than actual fighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theunicornhunter 2 Posted September 14, 2005 UPN, sorry couldn't resist that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen of Borg 2 Posted September 14, 2005 true, didn't think of that one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted September 14, 2005 Of those listed I think it's the Xindi. The Andorians were really more like friends rather then enemies and the Vulcans weren't really enemies either. They weren't the best of friends, but not enemies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sea trooper 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Yeah, the Xindi thing went on for more than a season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted September 14, 2005 The Xindi were the worst enemies. They caused the most loss of the crew. They took them away from their original goals of space exploration. They brought out the best and worst in the crew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 0 Posted September 14, 2005 The Xindi. They did try and almost succeed to completely remove humans from the universe, it's hard to top that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Brannon Braga, Rick Berman and Manny Coto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TransporterMalfunction 1 Posted September 14, 2005 Personally I liked the Suliban, they reminded me of the Gorn a little bit! Brannon Braga, Rick Berman and Manny Coto. 352234[/snapback] Yeah these guys usually get the stick from certain people but (in the case of the first two) they have been involved with Star Trek since TNG so I think the argument falls flat. Anyway I think that Enterprise was a huge boost from the previous installment - I for one congratulate Brannon, Rick and most of all Manny, who really got the style closer to the original series! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Well that's the thing that annoys me. Berman and Braga WERE capable of good work. It simply didn't happen on ENT or VOY. I don't know what happened to their talent. I really don't. Coto never impressed me at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TransporterMalfunction 1 Posted September 14, 2005 Well that's the thing that annoys me. Berman and Braga WERE capable of good work. It simply didn't happen on ENT or VOY. I don't know what happened to their talent. I really don't. Coto never impressed me at all. 352239[/snapback] Well that is were I think you are wrong. In my opinion the three writers mentioned did very well on Enterprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Well, we'll just have to "agree to disagree", won't we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Alright then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted September 14, 2005 Alright then. 352250[/snapback] Never mind my last posts, vote as you wish. Let's just not turn this into an argument thread on the merits of "TPTB". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Well the primary enemy was either the Sphere Builders or the Mysterious Future Man. Which I think is a shame because the Suliban were far more interesting. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that in a later incarnation of Star Trek, the Suliban may come back to be developed, though they may need a re-vamp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted September 14, 2005 I don't think I'd include the Suliban as a whole on this list. There were "bad guy" Suliban but as we learned in "Detained" they were just a faction of enhanced Suliban that were being used as pawns in the Temporal Cold War. Of course the Xindi were just pawns too but with them an entire season was devoted to fighting a war with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theunicornhunter 2 Posted September 14, 2005 (edited) When you think about it - the future guy/people were responsible for making the Xindi enemies as well - so I'd have to say they were the biggest threat to the Enterprise. Dont' forget the Klingons - they had a price on Archer's head. Edited September 14, 2005 by TheUnicornHunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welfconfed 2 Posted September 15, 2005 When you think about it - the future guy/people were responsible for making the Xindi enemies as well - so I'd have to say they were the biggest threat to the Enterprise. Dont' forget the Klingons - they had a price on Archer's head. 352261[/snapback] I agree, the 'future people' were responsible for not only the threat of the Suliban and the Xindi, but because of their interference, they may have changed the timing and nature of contact and interaction with the Klingons, Romulans, and practically everything else that happened in the series. No one had an effect on the entire series like the 'futures'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheikhengku 0 Posted March 10, 2006 The Xindi Alien Race.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mowzer 0 Posted March 10, 2006 I liked the andorians but I'm not sure they count as an enemy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ENTERPRISE1701D 0 Posted April 11, 2006 I voted other - get real people the Borg would have turned up and assimilated these people in their sleep cycles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 1 Posted April 11, 2006 I voted other - get real people the Borg would have turned up and assimilated these people in their sleep cycles. You do know that the Borg showed up on Enterprise, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trekmachine 0 Posted April 11, 2006 I voted The Xindi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMajorHayes 10 Posted September 16, 2007 I have to say that the Suliban were because unlike the other species listed, the Suliban were in league with time travellers and could strike at any given moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummy 0 Posted September 16, 2007 I voted for the Suliban. They were a nice creepy touch for this series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripLives 0 Posted September 18, 2007 Gotta say, without a doubt, The Suliban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites