VaBeachGuy 12 Posted June 23, 2003 Answer this. Lets say you know someone that knows nothing about Star Trek. They "think" they hate it but have never seen even one episode. Your mission, should you accept it, is to convert them into a Trek fan. You have to give them one episode from each 5 series to watch. Which 5 episodes do you give them? 2 Parters count as 1 episode. Keep in mind, the person you are trying to convert isn't a huge Sci-Fi fan. For me: TOS City On The Edge Of Forever (Great story) TNG Hollow Pursuits (Fun episode) DS9 Emissary (It introduces the Characters and is a good story) Voyager Future's End (Good time travel episode, Fun one) Enterprise Carbon Creek (Great early season 2 story without a lot of Sci-Fi) (This message will self destruct in 5 seconds...)(Ok that was for the mission Impossible fans... lol) Click for Spoiler: If this post resembles anyone it is strictly a coincidence. :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ddillard 2 Posted June 23, 2003 TOS: City on the Edge of Forever (Great drama/Tear jerker) TNG: Chain of Command (Great Drama) DS9: The Visitor (Very Emotional) VOY: Non Seqitar (Great Kim Episode) ENT: Carbon Creek (Great episode with little sci-fi) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 1 Posted June 23, 2003 TOS - "The Doomsday Machine" TNG - "Time's Arrow" DS9 - (I'll get back to ya) VOY - "Dark Frontier" ENT - "Cease Fire" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theunicornhunter 2 Posted June 23, 2003 TOS - Balance of Terror TNG - the one where Q becomes human DS9 - Badda Bing, Badda Bang, or the ep where Sisko dreams he's a 1950's scifi writer VOY - Tuvix ENT - if it was a galpal, Acquisition, gotta love the blue underwear. :lol: for a guy - Dead stop... great explosion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrekkieMage 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Let's see... TOS: The Trouble with Tribbles (everyone seems to like that one) TNG: QPid (saw that with a friend once, one who was sick of hearing me talk about Star Trek, and she loved it!) DS9: Little Green Men (never seen it, but it seems like a good one) VOY: Scorpion parts 1 & 2 (Amazing storyline, plus they get to see the Borg) (Others that I might chose: Shattered and Timeless) ENT: The Expanse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TransporterMalfunction 1 Posted June 23, 2003 Well my Dad was a non-Trekkie/normal person but I converted him to the dark side (opps wrong show :lol: ). The stories that got him hooked were: TNG: All Good Things (Such a good ending that left him wanting to see the rest of the series) TOS: Where No Man Has Gone Before (I think it was the novelity of seeing the fellow who played Gary, as my Dad could remember him from 2001). DS9 and Voyager: Don't know as my Dad does not like these shows at all as the move away from individual stories to plot arcs left him rather cold. Enterprise: Has to be Broken Bow - what a fantastic start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam The Smuggler 1 Posted June 24, 2003 2 Parters count as 1 episode. In our Minds Perhaps...but Technechly they are listed as Two Different Episode Productions...'cept "The Menagerie" anyways, I'm not quite sure how to answer this one at this time...But I have Suggested to my Star Wars Friends to try out DS9 B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted June 24, 2003 2 Parters count as 1 episode. In our Minds Perhaps...but Technechly they are listed as Two Different Episode Productions...'cept "The Menagerie" anyways, I'm not quite sure how to answer this one at this time...But I have Suggested to my Star Wars Friends to try out DS9 B) I mean for the purpose of picking the episodes, if you were to pick Redemption for TNG than Part 1 & 2 could be considered as 1 episode out of the 5 needed to suggest to the non-believer. Also, if you look at the DS9 DVDs, Disc 1 only has 3 episodes listed. Emissary. Also, the credits only roll at the open and end one time. It's a 2 hour movie as opposed to a 2 part episode. So some 2 parters do count as 1 episode in some instances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam The Smuggler 1 Posted June 24, 2003 Also, if you look at the DS9 DVDs, Disc 1 only has 3 episodes listed. Emissary. Also, the credits only roll at the open and end one time. It's a 2 hour movie as opposed to a 2 part episode. So some 2 parters do count as 1 episode in some instances. True,But the Second Half actually is Counted as The Second DS9 production on the Official Website and the Encylopedia....but this thread isn't for Discussing that...so I'll stop, lol;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riaan 0 Posted June 24, 2003 TOS--Trouble with Tribbles TNG--Trials and Tribbulations (sp?) DS9--Emissary VOY--Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy (for Picardo' singing if nothing else) ENT--Broken Bow--not only a great beginning to a series, but also a great beginning to all the series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam The Smuggler 1 Posted June 24, 2003 TNG--Trials and Tribbulations (sp?) That Was a DS9 Episode B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riaan 0 Posted June 24, 2003 TNG--Trials and Tribbulations (sp?) That Was a DS9 Episode B) oops! you're right. For TNG: I can't remember the title right now, but its the one with Q, and Picard discovers and solves the paradox, saving mankind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted June 24, 2003 TNG--Trials and Tribbulations (sp?) That Was a DS9 Episode B) oops! you're right. For TNG: I can't remember the title right now, but its the one with Q, and Picard discovers and solves the paradox, saving mankind. "All Good Things", TNG series finale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 5 Posted June 28, 2003 Amok Time - TOS All good things -TNG Trials and Tribulations - DS9 Endgame -Voyager Broken Bow - Enterprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted December 2, 2003 Any other thoughts on this? What 5 Episodes would you all select to convert a non-believer? I'll stick with my 5 picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 5 Posted December 2, 2003 I've changed my mind on 2 of these..! Amok Time - TOS All good things -TNG In the Pale Moonlight - DS9 Endgame -Voyager Twilight - Enterprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted December 2, 2003 I thought about switching to In The Pale Moonlight too but figured that since it's in the middle of the Dominion War I'd save that for a 6th or 7th episode after the initial 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Ericks 0 Posted December 2, 2003 TOS-The Naked Time TNG-All Good Things (with some explanation of Q) DS9-Our Man, Bashir VOY-Tuvix ENT-Twilight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted December 2, 2003 TOS: City on the Edge of Forever (for the heart wrenching time paradox, and a tough decision made) TNG: Darmok ( the struggle to communicate...the commitment and self-sacrifice that true explorers have) DS9: The Visitor (the human element - relationships, familial love, remain a part of the Star Trek future) VOY: The episode where Voyager was split into different time periods, and Chakotay (from the present) and Janeway (from the period when the trip first started) had to travel through the different zones to restore the ship. They eventually had to collaborate with crew members from different periods. It demonstrates the range of adventure of Star Trek in a single episode. ENT: The Horizon (episode where Travis returns to his family) because it shows the old ways which were about to be abandoned ( the Horizon and its difficulty to recruit new crew) versus the Enterprise, Travis' superior technical knowledge and, and the fact that travel is so much faster and further --the future. It points to a reasonable explanation of how humans transitioned to the Star Trek universe from a more local, though extensive, space presence. I would explain that 3/5 of the episodes are not time altering episodes, but that other aspects of these episodes were the reasons these were selected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo Jones 0 Posted December 3, 2003 I'm not sure a specific episode is needed to convert someone to Trek. I think the key is EXPOSURE to it. I dated a girl once who was a Trek hater. About a month later I caught her watching it...hooked! Anyway, here are my 5 TOS -- The Trouble With Tribbles TNG -- The Best of Both Worlds (obviously both parts) or Darmok DS9 -- Either Trials and Tribbleations (to tie in with TOS) or Our Man, Bashir VOY -- not sure, but The Doctor would be a big part of it. ENT -- Broken Bow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starsinmyeyes 0 Posted December 4, 2003 (edited) Since City on the Edge of Forever has been done. TOS A Piece of the Action (fun) TNG Masks (mystery) VOY Message in a Bottle (great lines) or Bride of Chaotica (fun) DS9 Broken Link ((I'm trying to say a bad word but can't) the interest to find out more about Odo) ENT Civilisation (interesting) Alternative list TOS Return of the Archons (sense of the ST Universe) TNG Darmok (great episode) VOY The Chute (feel for the characters) DS9 Captive Pursuit (sense of ST Universe) ENT Strange New World (interesting) By the way there are too many good episodes to choose from! :biggrin: Edited December 4, 2003 by starsinmyeyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mofo Jones 0 Posted December 5, 2003 I'd watch Spock's Brain about ten times before I'd sit through TNG "Masks" again. Hell, I'd willingly watch "Encounter at Farpoint" (which I now find grating as all hell) as well. Sorry, I thought that "Masks" was easily the worst episode of the last season, and in the running for worst of TNG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
He Who Shall Not Be Named 2 Posted June 22, 2008 Since they aren't Trek fans I would probably go heavy on the humor ones that aren't quite so SFish: TOS: A Piece of the Action TNG: Best of Both Worlds (since it is so pivotal to the entire Trek lore) DS9: Actually, I would probably have them watch a Babylon 5 episode and pretend it was DS9. If I couldn't do that then it would probably be The Siege at AR-558 since that is the only one I can stand myself. VOY: That one where 7 of 9 asks Kim to copulate with her. ENT: Forget it, I would have them watch Quantum Leap anyway. It has Scott Bakula and temporal incursions so they would never know the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youbroughtheryouRiker 2 Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) TOS--"I, Mudd" because it's a hilarious episode, shows all the Enterprise crew in action, and includes the outsmarting of a computer, which came across a handful of times in TOS's three seasons. TNG--"All Good Things..." because it's the best Trek episode EVER, imo, but if two-hour eps aren't allowed, then "Q Who" because it introduces us to the Borg, includes Q, and shows best how some can believe that Picard was the best Trek Captain. DS9--"In The Pale Moonlight" because it shows Star Trek at its absolute darkest and is still an incredibly brilliant episode; plus, it includes the Dominion War, which occupied a huge chunk of DS9's time- and storyline. VOY--"Shattered" because it includes temporal incursions, the tensions in assimilating the Maquis crew, the deal with the Borg, Seska's collaborations with the Kazons, the hilarity of Holodeck hijinks, and I believe does still include the idea of the long voyage home--in short, aside from the Hirogen, Seven becoming more human, and Kes, this episode depicts all of VOY in a one-episode nutshell. ENT--"Vox Sola", even though I rated it a 4 instead of a 5, because not only does it depict the problems involved with meeting new species for the first time, but it also includes all 7 main characters actually having to do something relevant, a criterion which is satisfied in almost no other episode of ENT. Edited June 22, 2008 by youbroughtheryouRiker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted June 22, 2008 DS9--"In The Pale Moonlight" because it shows Star Trek at its absolute darkest and is still an incredibly brilliant episode; plus, it includes the Dominion War, which occupied a huge chunk of DS9's time- and storyline. As I was re-reading this thread last night I was going to post that I'd show ITPML rather than Emissary for the DS9 episode. It really is an awesome episode and generally thought of as the best of DS9 and by many it's thought of as the best of all Trek (me included). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIMIMELA 1 Posted June 22, 2008 TOS- Where no man has gone before TNG- The Last Goodbye Don't know any other episode names I haven't really watched the others sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4456456 0 Posted June 23, 2008 TOS: The trouble with tribbles TNG: Decent DS9: Civil Defense Voyager: Futures End Enterprise: Strange New World Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takara_Soong 4 Posted June 23, 2008 TOS: City on the Edge of Forever or The Trouble With Tribbles TNG: All Good Things..., Chain of Command or Best of Both Worlds DS9: Trials and Tribulations VOY: Year of Hell or Blink of an Eye ENT: Broken Bow or Cogenitor - there are other episodes I would choose but they are part of arcs and I can't decide which episode of the arc to go with or I would prefer to show them the entire arc I think the episodes I would choose would also depend on the likes and dislikes of the person I'm trying to convert. Whether a person prefers comedy over drama or drama with a social message over action, for example, would have an effect on what episodes I picked for them to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youbroughtheryouRiker 2 Posted June 23, 2008 DS9--"In The Pale Moonlight" because it shows Star Trek at its absolute darkest and is still an incredibly brilliant episode; plus, it includes the Dominion War, which occupied a huge chunk of DS9's time- and storyline. As I was re-reading this thread last night I was going to post that I'd show ITPML rather than Emissary for the DS9 episode. It really is an awesome episode and generally thought of as the best of DS9 and by many it's thought of as the best of all Trek (me included). Well, I'm too hard-core for TNG to agree with that last statement. I'm not sure I'd even call it the best of DS9, but it sure puts up a helluva fight for that title, I'll grant it that. I feel I should disclose, too, that I almost put City On The Edge Of Forever for my TOS ep, but then I realized that if I did, I'd have no fun/comedy episodes in my list, and Star Trek could be QUITE funny on occasion. I think "I, Mudd" is funnier than "The Trouble With Tribbles." And like I said, it has the classic TOS trait of the need to outsmart a computer. I gotta admit, all around, I'm pretty proud of my picks. I think I've offered a decent diaspora of what Star Trek means. Also, if I were to add a TAS episode, it'd be "Yesteryear" because it wasn't an hour long story crammed into 30-minutes, was quite well written, and I think it was our first look at Andorians, too! For a movie, it'd be "First Contact" due to it's great direction, special effects, camerawork, writing, acting, fantastic all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VaBeachGuy 12 Posted June 23, 2008 DS9--"In The Pale Moonlight" because it shows Star Trek at its absolute darkest and is still an incredibly brilliant episode; plus, it includes the Dominion War, which occupied a huge chunk of DS9's time- and storyline. As I was re-reading this thread last night I was going to post that I'd show ITPML rather than Emissary for the DS9 episode. It really is an awesome episode and generally thought of as the best of DS9 and by many it's thought of as the best of all Trek (me included). Well, I'm too hard-core for TNG to agree with that last statement. I'm not sure I'd even call it the best of DS9, but it sure puts up a helluva fight for that title, I'll grant it that. I feel I should disclose, too, that I almost put City On The Edge Of Forever for my TOS ep, but then I realized that if I did, I'd have no fun/comedy episodes in my list, and Star Trek could be QUITE funny on occasion. I think "I, Mudd" is funnier than "The Trouble With Tribbles." And like I said, it has the classic TOS trait of the need to outsmart a computer. I gotta admit, all around, I'm pretty proud of my picks. I think I've offered a decent diaspora of what Star Trek means. Also, if I were to add a TAS episode, it'd be "Yesteryear" because it wasn't an hour long story crammed into 30-minutes, was quite well written, and I think it was our first look at Andorians, too! For a movie, it'd be "First Contact" due to it's great direction, special effects, camerawork, writing, acting, fantastic all around. ITPML has actually been voted in numerous polls as the best of all trek, including a poll of all Trek episodes here a couple years ago. TNG has a few really good episodes, but off the top of my head I can't think of a single one that I'd put above ITPML. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites