A l t e r E g o 9 Posted May 28, 2005 Production: 140 Season: 2 Episode: 24 DVD Disc: 6 Air Date: 05.06.1996 Stardate: 49655.2 Review Pending... Cast: Kate Mulgrew as Kathryn Janeway Robert Beltran as Chakotay Roxann Dawson as B'Elanna Torres Robert Duncan McNeill as Tom Paris Ethan Phillips as Neelix Robert Picardo as The Doctor Tim Russ as Tuvok Garrett Wang as Harry Kim Jennifer Lien as Kes Guest Cast: Tom Wright as Tuvix Simon Billig as Hogan Bahni Turpin as Swinn Creative Staff: Director: Cliff Bole Teleplay By: Kenneth Biller Story By: Andrew Shepard Price & Mark Gaberman Related Items: orchid planet cooling unit Trellan crepes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MANVERU 0 Posted October 3, 2005 I honestly cried when Captain Janeway forced Tuvix to be destroyed. I didn't aggree with it, I thought it might have been possible to maybe...... Copy Tuvix and re-create Neelix and Tuvok from him, having 3 beings. I was also really suprised with the captains response to him. She was way too angry. Very suprising for her Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sea trooper 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Not as bad of an episode I thought it was going to be. It was very sad and a bit disturbing, also. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jadziaezri 0 Posted January 9, 2006 i gave it a two, i thought it went against all that voayager stood for, its voyagers spocks brain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
APW 0 Posted January 9, 2006 I honestly cried when Captain Janeway forced Tuvix to be destroyed. I didn't aggree with it, I thought it might have been possible to maybe...... Copy Tuvix and re-create Neelix and Tuvok from him, having 3 beings. I was also really suprised with the captains response to him. She was way too angry. Very suprising for her Nothing Janeway said or did surprised me. She's the most bi-polar captain of any of the series. I also didn't agree with destroying Tuvix. Far as I was concerned it was an act of murder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MANVERU 0 Posted January 10, 2006 Why didn't the thought of keeping Tuvix and remaking Tuvok and Neelix ever surface? 3 happy beings! The writers definetly should ahve brought that into the light Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
He Who Shall Not Be Named 2 Posted January 10, 2006 3 happy beings! Well, 2 happy beings and Tuvok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sea trooper 0 Posted January 10, 2006 If you're talking about the way both Rikers were made, I have also thought about that theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 1 Posted January 10, 2006 If you're talking about the way both Rikers were made, I have also thought about that theory. That was a fluke, though. It was due to a naturally occurring field surrounding Nelvana III. The transporter has created duplicates in the past but they were never on purpose and not exactly available to Voyager. While splitting Tuvix to save Tuvok and Neelix may be murdering Tuvix, allowing him to live is murdering Tuvok and Neelix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youbroughtheryouRiker 2 Posted September 3, 2007 The chief surprise for me is that even though I'm the 7th original poster to this thread, I'm only the fifth vote! I give it a 4. Another good example of choosing what's right (having two beings whom were only liked by a select few) versus what's popular (one being who was well-liked by pretty much everyone). The relationship dynamics were great, especially the complications between Tuvix and Kes. Tom Wright was impressive acting as the amalgamate. He really brought Tuvix alive as part of Neelix and Tuvok. A touching episode, indeed. The simplicity of the remedial transport (in terms of how simple they made it look once they implemented it), and the way Janeway's character was written...those were the drawbacks of the episode for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummy 0 Posted September 3, 2007 I thought it was Ok, but nothing great. I hate the Transporter Accident Episodes. But that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jadziaezri 0 Posted September 3, 2007 If you're talking about the way both Rikers were made, I have also thought about that theory. That was a fluke, though. It was due to a naturally occurring field surrounding Nelvana III. The transporter has created duplicates in the past but they were never on purpose and not exactly available to Voyager. While splitting Tuvix to save Tuvok and Neelix may be murdering Tuvix, allowing him to live is murdering Tuvok and Neelix. But they were already dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayTroi 0 Posted March 27, 2008 I liked the episode but I didn't agree with the captain's decision. Quote (Manveru @ Oct 3 2005 5:59 A.M.) I honestly cried when Captain Janeway forced Tuvix to be destroyed. I didn't aggree with it, I thought it might have been possible to maybe...... Copy Tuvix and re-create Neelix and Tuvok from him, having 3 beings. I was also really suprised with the captains response to him. She was way too angry. Very suprising for her Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kor37 9 Posted March 27, 2008 It was an impossible decision for Janeway but she made the right one. The situation had to be corrected. I, too, would have loved to see a solution where all three beings survive but I can't see how that would have been possible. Archer faced a similar situation in "Similtude" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SeeingEyeBorg 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Didn't like it...it creeped me out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMajorHayes 10 Posted May 8, 2008 I gave it a 5. Neat premise and the moral dilemma that Janeway faced was a fascinating insight into her ethics and to a lesser degree her command style. Heartbreaking ending, but things were put back into order. <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMajorHayes 10 Posted May 8, 2008 I gave it a 5. Neat premise and the moral dilemma that Janeway faced was a fascinating insight into her ethics and to a lesser degree her command style. Heartbreaking ending, but things were put back into order. <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warrior_Princess 0 Posted June 7, 2008 Great episode, gave it a 5. I don't think I ever cried so hard during a Voyager ep. Absolutely loved the "interaction" between Neelix and Tuvok and the saddest part was separating the two in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob39874 0 Posted June 9, 2008 I have never seen this episode so I havent voted till I have seen it I have seen very little of Voyager since I only have about 10 or so videos for various seasons. However I believe the Janeway should have thought more about destroying this Tuvix as she is a captain of the federation and it should have been a hard decision and from what I heard she made the decision without weighing the concept of everything else. She is my least favourite captain I think they chould have had Chakotay or someone else as captain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaboGirl 7 Posted July 8, 2008 I loved it! I give it a 5. The only thing I wasn't crazy about was getting rid of Tuvix. If they could have kept him around somehow... He had lots of potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rob39874 0 Posted July 9, 2008 I havent watched this episodeso I havent voted but in reponse to the comment about murdering Neelix and Tuvok. What Janeway killed was a new species and the only one of it's kind so she caused the extinction of a species. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted July 13, 2008 They could have just stored Tuvix's pattern in the transporter's pattern buffer; then gone ahead and separated out the two separate patterns for Tuvok and Neelix and restored them, before recreating Tuvix from the stored pattern using some stored biomass or something. I just don't think they tried hard enough for a problem that wasn't that difficult to solve. Transporters are a bit skee-whiff when it comes to ethics and so forth. The Transporter essentially killed Tuvok and Neelix - no one was to blame. As a result it created Tuvix. Janeway and co, however, were then personally responsible for killing Tuvix. There was no accident there. They committed murder to help their friends. They proceeded without informed consent. The man was crying! For pitty's sake. This Ultilitarianism doesn't wash. The good of the many outweighs the good of the one. Nonsense. What other annoying combinations of crew members could there be? Paris and Harry - Harris Tim? Seven and Janeway - Jevenway? Chakotay and ... oh you get the point! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crewman Q 0 Posted October 16, 2008 I loved the episode and gave it a 5. The most challenging part of the episode to me was that it seemed that Tuvix would be able to live on, in Tuvok and Neelix. I actually agree with the captain's decision, and I am glad that Janeway finally put the good of her actual crew before the good of some other entity (Caretaker, Endgame (almost), to name a few). She had been the anti-Kirk up until this point, following protocol, not firing weapons when possible, and helping others to a fault. Her anti-Kirk nature made this dilemma all the more difficult for Janeway, but she finally made the best choice for her crew. All of these elements made this episode so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites