prometheus 0 Posted June 24, 2004 Maybe this belongs on the movie page but i think it's more TNGish: did you think that the Enterprise B should have been a design more akin to between the Enterprise A and Ambassador class C, ratherthan an existing Excelsior design? I think so.. the design lineage would have been unbroken. To me, the Enterprise was always like a mid-sized ship, like a Ford Focus, while the Excelsior was like the sporty saloon. Iknow that sounds a bit funny, but im trying to analagyse... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSonofvulcan 0 Posted June 24, 2004 NO! My screen name for my clan is [F-I-I]RAdm-NCC-1701-B BECAUSE I LOVE EXCELSIOR CLASSES! Anyway, the excelsior class was pretty much the flagship at the time. As to the size matter, the Excelsior class is only a little smaller than an ambasitor class since the ammbasitor class has a big saucer section however, it's weapons are sometimes said to be inferior to the excelsior class. The weapon thing is mere speculation and opinion though. On BC, the excelsior beats the ambasitor all the time if the players behind them are of equil streignth. (I run 2 computer hards while I'm in a warbird cloaked) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted June 24, 2004 Someone's been using mods.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSonofvulcan 0 Posted June 24, 2004 (edited) lol, I use the version 1.3, but I'm starting to get off topic *smacks himself back on to topic* The enterprise legacy wouldn't be the same without the excelsior class one Edited June 24, 2004 by TSonofvulcan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A l t e r E g o 9 Posted June 24, 2004 did you think that the Enterprise B should have been a design more akin to between the Enterprise A and Ambassador class C, ratherthan an existing Excelsior design? No not really, not imo. They get away perfectly with the E's radically different, out of sync design because it was; "The Big Experiment", it's appearance was most likely a necessary function of TransWarpDrive. (<Warp field specialists please don't kill me if I'm wrong) It's failure to deliver TWD doomed it as far as ever becoming a extremely popular ship design; stories of Scooty's sabotage surely raged for years. It probably became known as the Edsel of Starship designs but fortunately for it all that gave it character and heritage. Enough to eek out a full career as a Fed workhorse (still in service by TNG) AND it did find favor with fans. (^TSOV and His Clan for example) No it's not the prettiest ship style in the Fleet but I'd serve on one if necessary. Scotty: A ship is a ship... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace 0 Posted June 25, 2004 No it's not the prettiest ship style in the Fleet but I'd serve on one if necessary. Scotty: A ship is a ship... I'd disagree . IMHO, the Excelsior is the most graceful starship design ever created. Despite the transwarp failure, the Excel was a hugely successful design, evidenced by its long service in the fleet. Scotty's sabotage was really a non-issue as no one would've expected the ship's own captain of engineering to do such a thing. The Constitution design was getting incredibly old, and once the Excelsior was fitted with regular warp drive, it became the flagship design in the fleet. This is why the Ent-B was made an Excelsior class ship. From the original to the Ent-E, the flagship Enterprise has been constructed as the most advanced ship in the fleet, in the most advanced starship class. At this point in time, the Excelsior class, by far, was the highest ranking class in the fleet. And it's b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSonofvulcan 0 Posted June 25, 2004 I agree, they are very beutiful. Gene Roddenbury said "Make me a starship the way the Japaniese would built it" and POOF, Excelsior class ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WEAREBORG4102 0 Posted June 25, 2004 It does indeed look very beauiful and very nice. It was the basis of the greatest ship designs of the 24th century. It derived the sovereign, intrepid and other famous diesigns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSonofvulcan 0 Posted June 26, 2004 not to mention it is the ship that starts a revolution in ship design for the entire federation. None of these boring sorry excuse for ship designs. The Romulans may not be that powerful but I have to give them two things, they have good hairstyles and they have beutiful ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted July 6, 2004 I know that at the end of The Search for Spock they originally intended the Excelsior to take over from the Enterprise but I feel that tha would have taken away from the personality that was 'The Enterprise'. The Excelsior would have been like an invader... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Kirk 1 Posted July 6, 2004 I think B being a Excelsior class vessel fits the pace of technology. The Constitution class vessels had been used and rebult to a point that not much more could be done with that design imo. I see the Excelsior as a stepping stone to the late vessels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Ericks 0 Posted July 7, 2004 I'd agree with the idea that when the Excelsior was built it was intended to be the future of Star Fleet, and to take a step above what anything else had done (transwarp). The same thing occured, like some one said, with Soveriegn class ships, and now narrow, trianglular shaped ships (Prometheus, Nova, and Intrepid class) would appear to be taking over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Would you all like to see a tv series based on the adventures of the Enterprise B? I think that it would be interesting to see how Captain Harriman and Ensign Sulu have fared. I know that there are books based on that premis but I havent read any. Maybe Sulu could be an admiral. Kirk couldnt be in it though (thankfully...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Kirk 1 Posted July 8, 2004 Would you all like to see a tv series based on the adventures of the Enterprise B? I think that it would be interesting to see how Captain Harriman and Ensign Sulu have fared. I know that there are books based on that premis but I havent read any. Maybe Sulu could be an admiral. Kirk couldnt be in it though (thankfully...) I would to see a series based on the Enterprise B crew or the Excelsior crew but apparently tptb are not that creative... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sam The Smuggler 1 Posted July 9, 2004 (edited) And Interestingly Enough, The Ambasodor-Class Was Designed As An Intermediate Step Between The Excelsior-Class & Galaxy-Class. Behind The Scenes Ofcourse, Not In ST Edited July 9, 2004 by Sam The Smuggler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites