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Paul Simon.

Really, I could help laughing about the Cardie Thug. Mebbe Harrison can be part of Starfleet Intel.

 

Maybe the head of Section 31? But he's always "The Hero". Section 31 is a little too sinister for him I think. :P

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Harrison Ford is not always "the hero" ... in fact one of my favorite movies that he did featured him as kind of an ambivalent character, neither good nor bad. Check out "Presumed Innocent" ... he's not very heroic in that, just a cheating husband who's wife goes over the edge.

Also, another underrated performance from Ford was "What Lies Beneath." He was a real S.O.B. in that one, a murderer. He was great!

I think he could do it. He could be one of the best "baddies" in ST history.

I thought it was ok; not my favorite, not my least favorite, just in the middle. The most interesting part of the film was when Kirk's son was killed. Having Doc Brown as Klingon just didn't feel right, not to mention the Spock we like didn't show up until the end.

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I was getting a little too old for movies like "Back to the Future" when it came out, so having Christopher Lloyd play a bad guy was no big deal to me. I thought he did a good job.

I like the version they filmed.

 

I would have only taken out Cochrane's dancing scene and Deanna's drunken scene.

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I like the version they filmed, too. That "first draft" sounds lame.

I liked Deanna's drunk scene, but I agree with you on Cochran. He was just annoying and that music/jukebox crap was pretty stupid.

I also would have picked a different song than "Magic Carpet Ride." I love Steppenwolf, but I'm pretty tired of the whole 60's music thing everywhere.

The picture of Picard in Nemesis was taken during one of four years at the Academy. The scene in Tapestry is set just after graduation. Come on, how many of you have had more than one hairstyle over a four year period. Maybe he shaved his head as part of an initiation when he first got to the Academy, maybe he thought it would look good on him, who knows. IMO, this is the second biggest non-issue nitpick there is from Nemesis.

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What is the first biggest non-issue nitpick there is from Nemesis?

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At the message boards at st.com someone actually posted that Nemesis was terrible because Data's sideburns were wrong - they claimed they were square throughout the movie. They weren't btw. They only became square when Data impersonated B4 because B4's sideburns were square.

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Now that is really stupid ... who in the world notices sideburns? Data put a streak of gray in his hair for All Good Things just to create the illusion of aging. If I had actually noticed a change in his sideburns, I wouldn't have thought a thing about it beyond thinking that Data was just playing around with his appearance again. :P People.

I don't care anything about Data's sideburns. And I guess the only thing that annoys me about the Picard baldness in the Academy picture is just the lack of attention to detail on the part of the people who made Nemesis. They have to know that people are looking for things like that to see if things are correct according to "canon" ... I noticed it right off and commented on it to my husband immediately at the theatre. Stuff like that is distracting and gets your mind wandering about who in the world was involved in this project that didn't see "Tapestry." I'm more inclined to think they probably did see Tapestry and just didn't care enough about us to get it right. More concerned with cinematic license than pleasing their fan base, which is really kind of short-sighted.

I don't know ... I really didn't like this movie at all.

You know, I am from Indiana originally. Indiana high school basketball all-stars play Kentucky high school all-stars every year. It is a long-standing rivalry. ( Actually I don't know if they still play...I just presume they do.)  It's been more than 30 years since high school for me, and I still care about Indiana beating Kentucky in basketball. And I would be happy if Indiana or Purdue were in the top ten college polls, and not Kentucky.

 

And they made the movie "Hoosiers," not Kentuckians. :P   

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This is hilarious! I graduated from the University of Kentucky and I have two favorite teams ... U.K. and whoever is playing I.U. :P I'm thinking about switching to University of Louisville, though, because U.K. ain't been the same since Pitino left!

I grew up in Milton, Kentucky, right across the river from Madison, Indiana and lived in both Hanover and Madison after college. I never cared a thing about high school basketball, so I'm not sure if they still do that high school all-star thing.

I can't imagine caring enough about a sport of any kind to not like someone just because they were a fan of a different team ... who cares? Not me.

And unlike many of my fellow Kentuckians, I've actually seen "Hoosiers" and own it on DVD ... it's one of my favorite movies. I know folks who won't watch it just because it's about Indiana basketball ... you'd think they were promoting Satan in the movie by the irrational reactions it gets among some of my fellow U.K. alumni.

The fact that a lot of Star Trek fans apparently did not like Seinfeld shows me how out of the mainstream we Trek fans must be. No wonder Enterprise flopped like it did since we can't even get behind what critics of the t.v. industry have named the best television comedy of all time. :P

I hate reality shows, too. Survivor was the beginning of the end of intelligent television. :P

I also hate Will & Grace ... I just don't get it. :P

Seinfeld was awesome because there was "no hugging and no learning." And I can imagine that it would not have fared well outside of the U.S. because no other country on the planet produces people as self-centered as we are. :o

I think it's an age thing ... Jerry and George are about the same age as me and my husband (are we the Gen Xers? I never have figured that out.) We are true children of the late 70's and early 80's ... when yuppies were the way to go and people worried about "nothing" all the time ... my entire college/early working life was pretty much an episode out of Seinfeld.

We were quite petty and childish and we had a blast.

Spock's death scene. It's the best acting that William Shatner has ever done.

I cried like a baby.

I'd have to agree with bevfank on "Lessons" and "The Perfect Mate." I hate all episodes with Picard flirting/romancing anyone but Beverly.

Also, I would throw in that one in the first season where Wesley stepped on the grass and got sentenced to death. All those morons in diapers running everywhere they went, plus Tasha and Will oozing and oiling around the planet trying to get busy with the diaper-wearing locals ... ick.

Family Matters ... death to Urkel.

Hey, man, Seinfeld is the best show that was ever on television, including all Star Trek. Sorry, dude, but the masses have spoken ... nobody will ever again do anything that good. All hail, Jerry & Company!

I never liked Joan Rivers before she started doing her Oscar-wear commentary. She is dead-on in picking out the ones who got it right with what they chose to wear and the ones who really should have consulted with a friend before they left the house!

I don't mind her criticising those Hollywood types ... they all need to be taken down a peg or two, anyway. They put themselves out there in these ridiculous clothes ... they deserve whatever they get.

C'mon, guys ... the Academy Awards are just bloodsport. I like Joan, I like Melissa and I like that flamboyant chubby man that sits in on their "Golden Hanger" awards show.

Yes, Joan has gone a bit far with the plastic surgery and it looks like Melissa has had her lips done, but if they can make a buck and save a buck doing this schtick, I say good luck to them. I wish I could come up with some way to make money that required no more of me than giving out fashion citations!

"Man, I'm not even supposed to be here today!"

The picture of Picard in Nemesis was taken during one of four years at the Academy. The scene in Tapestry is set just after graduation. Come on, how many of you have had more than one hairstyle over a four year period. Maybe he shaved his head as part of an initiation when he first got to the Academy, maybe he thought it would look good on him, who knows. IMO, this is the second biggest non-issue nitpick there is from Nemesis.

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What is the first biggest non-issue nitpick there is from Nemesis?

These polls are always so impossible!

I picked "Can't decide" ... because there is no distinction made between the television series and the big screen films that followed.

TNG was the better of the two on television, simply because it was better written, better special effects, more modern, etc. etc.

TOS was the better of the two if you throw in the TOS motion pictures ... the original crew really blossomed on the big screen.

I thought that Bashir's "friendship" with Garak made Bashir seem like a bit of a twit. Garak's suave demeanor put Bashir in a very immature light.

I liked Bashir and O'Brien much better ... they were more equals and very cute to watch. I loved it when Keiko came back to DS9 after her assignment on Bajor and she got the "boys" back together for their guys night out.

I always consider ST:III The Search for Spock as the middle movie in a trilogy ... we never watch it by itself, but must always start with Wrath of Kahn, then Search for Spock, then The Voyage Home.

I thought it was a great movie, particularly when you consider it as part of a whole. Plus, it was great to have Spock returned to us ... I bought the whole thing. I only wish that Kirstie Alley had reprised her role as Savik.

It's a tie for me, really, between "In the Pale Moonlight" and the two-parter "In Purgatory's Shadow" and "By Inferno's Light." I guess you can't tell I'm a big Garak fan ...

I voted bad, too, for all the reasons given by The King and I would add the horrible treatment of Worf in the story. No mention of his being the Federation ambassador to the Klingon Empire and why he's been demoted back to tactical and third or fourth banana on the Enterprise.

The movie showed absolutely no respect for the fans of DS9 and all of the characters were acting so completely out of character it was distracting.

(I don't hate Counselor Troi, though. Without Troi there is no Lxanna Troi ... and I adore Majel Barret in that role!)

I don't think that I could get interested enough in fan fiction involving a post-DS9 scenario that did not include the events or characters from the Avatar books, the Mission Gamma series, or that latest one "Unity" from S.D. Perry.

I loved those books ... they could certainly be made into another season or two of the series.

Nemesis is my least favorite movie, although there is one line that I found quite humorous.

When Picard is beamed over to the Scimitar and he asks Shinzon "Why have you brought me here?" Shinzon: "Because I was lonely." That cracks me up every time.

I was so distracted by how "old" everyone looked and how weird and out of character everyone was acting that I just could not get into this movie. Don't even get me started on what they did to Worf.

Our local UPN affiliate used to pre-empt Voyager every week for some stupid University of Cincinnati or Xavier University basketball game. Then they would air Voyager immediately following the stupid game, but for those of us who were trying to tape Voyager every week, that was really inconvenient. You never knew when the crappy ballgame was going to end, so you never knew what time Voyager would come on the air.

They pulled the same stunt with DS9 in its final couple of seasons.

Nobody cares about us. The only thing we can count on is our own DVD sets and the heck with television all together.

I voted "other" ... it's Professor Frink from The Simpsons all the way, baby!

What did you think about that Krauser guy? He was cracking me up during Leon's final fight with him. The way he kept laughing and making all those smart comments every time Leon shot him or hurt him ... we laughed the whole time (in between cussing because we kept dying!).

"Run, Leon, run!"

"I see your every move!"

"Now, that's what I'm talkin' about!"

"Now you're talkin'!"

And the Los Illuminados must have some kind of secretary ... I loved how things would happen and then in the next room you'd run into a memo just laying around describing what you'd done just a second ago. That secretary was right on it, wasn't she?

4) They think that the sets should be less futuristic looking than TOS.  Yes, we should definitely make a retro 1860s bridge.  NOT.  Come on people!  The stuff we have now is more futuristic looking than TOS stuff.  I feel like the Enterprise provides a nice segway between the technology of today and the technology of TOS.  Or we could have the characters use 8-track tapes and do their hair in beehives.

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I completely agree with this. I have often heard claims that Star Trek fans are on the average brighter than the general public. (I think Star Trek fans are like everybody else..but I have heard this..).

 

Why is it such a struggle for folks to accept a prequel where the technolgy looks like things we have today, which look better than what Kirk had on his Enterprise? Why is this such an intellectual stretch?

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It's not an "intellectual stretch," it's just annoying and distracting.

Oh, RE4 is definitely better than all of the others! And I can't believe that I'm saying that because I never thought they could top RE2. We wore that game out and still play it every once in a while!

I'm on my third time through on RE4. The first time we played it, it took 24 HOURS OF PLAYING TIME. What a game!

I like the "laser" aim thing ... I didn't at first, but I really like it now.