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I also agree with the King. I've been huge Watergate buff all my adult life, starting around 1982. I own so many books by most of the key players I could write a doctoral dissertation without ever going to the library!

Although I thought I wanted to know Deep Throat's identity, now I just feel let down. I wish they'd never told us!

And this Mark Felt guy was "identified" by a young man back in 1999 as Deep Throat. The kid went to some sort of summer camp with the son of Carl Bernstein and apparently little Bernstein told him at that time. Then the kid wrote a research paper on the topic and backed up the identification.

He was on the Today show and everything in 1999. Then the other morning, they had him back on the show being interviewed by Couric and Lauer.

It was such a great mystery and I liked it better when I could picture Deep Throat looking like Hal Holbrook ...

We have one child and should have had another. My son is 6 and we've waited too long (too big an age difference now, plus my husband has been snipped).

I would think that the more kids you have the easier it would be to care for them. As the older ones grow, you have all kinds of help from them, plus everybody has someone to play with other than Mommy and Daddy. I'm a poor substitute for a brother or sister playmate!

I don't think that there is such a thing as "too many" ... if you can take care of their needs, physical and emotional, then it really doesn't matter how many you have.

I realize its not canon but in the DS9 books she took over Odo's job.

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Those are great books. I love the character Ro Laren and it was fun to read those books and imagine her and Kira together on the same crew. Yikes.

Just a couple of angry young Bajorans sorting things out. It was great. The confrontation between her and Picard in the books was also well written.

I wish they would put those books to good use in some mini-series form ... they are excellent.

Yes, Frakes directed First Contact and it was an awesome movie. It's not his fault that Insurrection was just a dumb story. What else could he do with it?

Seems like the cast didn't much care for this movie either ...

 

As far as I know, only Frakes has spoken out against Nemesis. Plus, the only reason he disliked it was because he wasn't in it much and they wouldn't let him direct it.

 

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Well, his lack of screen time was one of the reasons I disliked the movie. Not enough screen time for any of the main characters IMO. I've always felt that these shows were character driven as opposed to action flicks. I could have done with more interaction between Troi/Riker, a serious and meaningful conversation between Worf and anyone .... and eliminating that dune buggy thing all together.

They should have let Frakes direct it and someone else should have written a better screenplay ... You know, one that features the entire cast a little more and gives us less of ancillary and hitherto unknown characters. Kahn was a great villain, but you still saw plenty of Kirk, Bones, Spock and Scotty, with ample screen time for Chekov, Sulu and Uhura.

I say it's high time we see Q on the big screen ... he's the best villain of the TNG era. Not to mention what a fantastic actor John DeLancie is.

I don't typically like those "mirror universe" episodes, but anything would have been better than Nemesis.

How vindicated I feel in my dislike of this movie after reading Frakes comments. Seems like the cast didn't much care for this movie either ... at least they understand what the fans want. Why doesn't one of the cast members write the next movie?

The instant "clicking" of the cast was a joy to watch ... everyone was pretty much completely developed from day one on this show. They obviously got richer as the years passed, but this was an awesome beginning.

I loved the whole mysticism of the Orb. I loved the scenes where Ben would run into that Vedek on the station prior to actually going with him to Bajor. Especially that last, "It's time."

The whole segment on moving the station to the mouth of the wormhole was also really cool, because we get to see O'Brien finally being the "Mack Daddy." Who knew he was so qualified and talented? Even the long-suffering and annoying Keiko's reaction to DS9 was completely understandable, taking much of the annoying edge off of her for me.

Every time I watch this show, I leak at the eyes when Jennifer dies in the opening segment. Brooks is wonderful as Sisko. I feel his pain when he has to leave her on the Saratoga. He's got to think about Jake, but all he wants to do is die with her.

Fantastic beginning to THE best series of the franchise. IMO.

Working our way through DS9 again. Just watched "Invasive Procedures" last night (Season 2).

And where is television? Or at least news channels? You never see anyone vegging out in front of the tube watching Dallas re-runs. Considering how even the pulp fiction of the mid 1800s is now revered as classic, you'd think folks would be watching "Family Matters" in the 23rd century and saying, "Ah, the classics. They just don't make 'em like they used to. You go, Urkel!"

Many of the world's problems can be solved now, but it's simply a matter of governments and politicians not willing to act boldly or even speak their opinions openly for various reasons. Mainly because many problems in the world require solutions that are dismissed far too easily. Also things like political partisanship and so forth block such solutions from being implemented or even proposed.[/b]

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So it has been, so it shall ever be.

Change is very slow ... look how long the U.S. Civil War took to come to a head. It really began before the U.S. was independent of England.

Civil Rights movement in the U.S. ... likewise. That was well over 200 years in the making.

Today, I think that science is the only thing that can take the wind out of the politicians sails and strip them of their power. Imagine what something like hydrogen powered cars would do to the power struggle going on today.

I rather enjoyed the DS9 version of Roddenberry's future, as I know you did, too, King. It was so much closer to the truth of humanity, Bajoran mysticism and Captains who were really Gods aside.

Lincoln's death actually hurt the reconciliation between North and South after the Civil War. Under President Johnson's administration "reconstruction" was a punishment-oriented affair that helped divide the two even further, contributed to Southern illiteracy, poverty, and lack of opportunity that the South has only recently been able to recover from.

Had Lincoln lived, we would have seen a much gentler and easier melding of the Union and the Confederacy. His assassination was the worst thing that could have happened to the South.

Now Gorkon, on the other hand, was also an agent of peace, yes, but more closely resembles a person like Mikhail Gorbachev or Boris Yeltsin. Isn't the friction between the Klingons and the Federation supposed to represent the Cold War between the Soviets and the U.S.? Or was that the Romulans? Hard to keep it straight sometimes.

I guess some of them should just be glad that they were working for four years! Why be bitter ... I'm sure that Trek paid the bills at least for a while. And I really think they should think twice about "burning their bridges" with people who are in a position to possibly hire them again for something else.

Bakula obviously will go on to other things ... he's been around forever. Wasn't he the father of Murphy Brown's baby? The ex-husband of Mary Jo on Designing Women? The dude from Quantum Leap?

As for the rest, I'd never seen any of them prior to this show. Most of them we'll probably never see again. You couldn't pay me enough to be in the acting profession ... no job security no matter how good you are. It's all luck.

I dreamed about the entire cast once. That's about it.

:P :blink: B)

I thought they were real, too, until I got to "The Trouble with Trousers."

They sounded plausible to me. Truly, in the right hands any one of these things you came up with would make a good episode. (Except maybe the bald thing.) Couldn't you just see a young James T. Kirk happily reporting for breeding duty? I don't think that is much of a stretch!

I'd like to buy a director's cut box set of the prequel trilogy. We have Phantom Menace on video and AOTC on DVD. I'd rather buy a box set of the first three in a director's cut version. If purchasing all 6 movies is required to get the director's cut, then I guess we'll do that. DRAT.

See, Lucas ain't so dumb. He knows about me and my willingness to buy just about anything.

Well, I checked out the theme songs for Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. I liked Flash Gordon's theme song, probably because I loved Queen. Their material was always very operatic, which is closer to orchestral than your run of the mill pop song. Plus, Flash Gordon is a cartoon character, so I'll cut 'em a little slack for not going the orchestral route.

Buck Rogers theme song was a little too "Love Boat" for a space show, but considering the time and the lack of taste during the 70's/early 80's ....

I just think that we have all matured so much since the 1970s and using a "pop music" sounding theme song for a Star Trek series was a bad move. We're all smart enough to "get" instrumental music and the stuff written for past series was quite simply wonderful. Jerry Goldsmith, Dennis McCarthy, etc. etc. really knew how to paint the right picture.

I would much rather see the characters actually have to act rather then see a bunch of cartoons running around on the screen.

 

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Like Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher's stellar performances in Return of the Jedi? :P

Sorry, VBG, I couldn't resist. Really, I'm just kidding.

I think that the claymation looking aliens in Return of the Jedi were worse than any of the over the top CGI moves Lucas made in the prequels. Just my opinion.

Does that mean you didn't like the Buck Rogers song, or Flash Gordon?

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:P Never watched either one of those, so I couldn't say whether I liked the theme songs or not.

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I have an mp3 of the Buck rogers theme with lyrics. If you want, I can email it to you.

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Hey, why not? Thanks.

It's always easier to be negative, but i thought i'd start a thread and see if some of the other star trek fans who mostly disliked Enterpise could list  Postitives about the series.

 

I think the concept started out really great, and B&B succeeded in giving us a really cool show targeted at more mature audiances. More Nudity, more action/violence, sexual situations, cursing.. next time I hope they go further and take Star Trek franchise and the viewers ..where they havent gone before.  Jolene has a beautiful body, I wish I could have seen more of it.

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Yes, more nudity, action/violence, sexual situations, and cursing are exactly what I'd like to see added and expanded in the next Star Trek series ....

Are you being facetious? I am.

Does that mean you didn't like the Buck Rogers song, or Flash Gordon?

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Never watched either one of those, so I couldn't say whether I liked the theme songs or not.

I just think that any movie or television show about space, be it Star Wars or Star Trek or any other space-themed show, needs to be instrumental/orchestral music. All of the other Trek shows/movies themes were instrumental, uplifting, and really painted a auditory picture.

Vocal and space does not mix. Quite frankly, the Enterprise theme song was one of the initial turn-offs for me, followed closely by the "prequel" nature of the show.

I didn't know he was in that movie! I'm going to go see it this weekend.

I'm always happy to see any DS9 alumni in other things. I loved them all and it makes me feel good to know that they are still working. Good for Siddig ... that's a pretty major movie. And you say his role is "significant." That's awesome.

Even early on, I thought he did well in the role of Bashir. The character wasn't very likable at first, but he grew on you as you found out more about him.

Bashir was so much less annoying after this episode. I felt so sorry for his parents ... they just wanted the best for their son.

I really started liking Bashir a lot from Season 4 on, but this ep sealed the deal. And, of course, having Picardo on hand was highly entertaining. He was the best thing about Voyager and then there he stood on DS9 ... very cool.

High School Class of 1983 here. Our class song was "Best Years of Our Lives" by Billy Squire. It was a song from "Fast Times at Ridgmont High" which was unofficially our class movie.

All right ... let me just say that for the most part, I am a big Star Trek fan and have always liked Trek more than Star Wars. I have typically been a little bored with the whole Star Wars thing.

But Revenge of the Sith was AWESOME. I plan to see it again and again. I thought that George Lucas finally delivered a movie worthy of the material (he had a lot to make up for after those stupid Ewoks, Han Solo's lobotomy, and Jar-Jar Binks). Obi-Wan was freakin' awesome, Yoda rocked the house (I thought the Yoda puppet looked stupid ... CGI all the way for me), and it was just a darn good movie.

Don't NOT see this one because of Ep 1 & 2 ... it quite simply is almost another genre. Excellent flick.