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  2. Posted · Edited by italiangirl

    I think something that needs to be considered here, is that NOT everyone has the same "definition" of God.

     

    God means many things to many people, thus this makes your argument a bit too stringent.

     

    God no longer fits into what the church dictates for us to believe.

     

    We are in a time of free thought in regards to spirituality, and I know, for me, that literal interpretation of the bible literally can't be done.

     

    Especially when most of it was put together 300 years after The Christ died, and there were "men" deciding what went in, and what went out.

     

    Therefore, I think this argument really is at a stalemate.

     

    No side is going to convince the other of the "rightness" of their believes.

     

    And due to "free will", I find that very appealing. :(

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    I can "imagine" how horrible it may be to lose a parent, but I really didn't learn the full impact of that until my own father died.

     

    Nothing can prepare you for that.

     

    Tis why we must go through certain situations to grow as individuals.

     

    Exactly, but I'd rather not know what that is like.

     

    I wouldn't need to lose a parent to know it would hurt me deeply.

     

    Certainly you've had situations in your life where you feel you've come out stronger, and more wise because of your experiences. 

     

    True, but in certain cases, I'd just as sooner have not gone through them.

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    Nothing can prepare you for just HOW deeply.

     

    You can never know until you experience it.

     

    Just as we are now saying how horrible it must be for everyone who has in some way been apart of this tragedy, we can never know fully what it was like until we go through it ourselves.

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    A theoretical god could have either designed the planet WITHOUT such "natural" disasters, one better suited to our safety needs. The fact it didn't prevent yesterdays disaster can be explained like this...."God, does not exist".

     

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    By your logic......"God exists and occasionally, he likes to watch thousands of people die horribly".[/b]

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    But what if my theory is right?

     

    That the earth is a school of such for souls, to progress the soul further along. And in which you get to choose your life lessons each lifetime?

     

    That wouldn't make God a horrible being, rather, if he is allowing us to choose these events, and grow from them, he's actually being a "good God". :(

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    We can experience things and learn things without suffering. For example, You don't need to be stabbed to know that it will hurt if you are. If you've read it someplace, then you've learned that without suffering.

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    I don't think it's the same.

     

    When you have children, you see even as small beings how it takes "lessons" to learn things.

     

    The lessons of childhood shape who you are as an adult.

     

    The bigger lessons of adulthood project us further along.

     

    You simply can't say that, as it can't always apply.

     

    I can "imagine" how horrible it may be to lose a parent, but I really didn't learn the full impact of that until my own father died.

     

    Nothing can prepare you for that.

     

    Tis why we must go through certain situations to grow as individuals.

     

    Certainly you've had situations in your life where you feel you've come out stronger, and more wise because of your experiences. :(

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    The earthquake that caused the tsunami was the largest since a 9.2 temblor hit Prince William Sound in Alaska in 1964, according to geophysicist Julie Martinez of the U.S. Geological Survey.

     

    "All the planet is vibrating" from the quake, said Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute. Speaking on SKY TG24 TV, Boschi said the quake even disturbed the Earth's rotation.

     

    The quake occurred at a place where several huge geological plates push against each other with massive force. The survey said a 620-mile section along the boundary of the plates shifted, motion that triggered the sudden displacement of a huge volume of water.

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    But that's not destiny.

     

    Not meant to be together.

     

    If the future's not written, than your example of love doesn't mesh with your answer.

     

    Nothing is written in stone by your definition.

     

    Therefore, the love issue doesn't come into play at all.

     

    People may have many soulmates, not just one.

     

    And by your definition, there is no such thing as a soulmate or a true love.

     

    In my definition, if two people are perfectly compatible to the point where a life together will be possible and happy, then they are "destined" to be together. But I don't believe that their paths were set before they were born, because that would imply that something behind the scenes is pulling the strings as opposed to the free will of the people involved.

     

    "Soulmate" and "true love" for me mean two people are are perfectly suited to each other and share a deep emotional connection.

     

    But the fact is that it is THEIR personal connection, not created by some mythic god figure.

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    I never said "God" created that.

     

    I say that we have free will and we choose these "options' before we come to earth.

     

    Thus why there is more than one soul on earth who is "compatable" for you.

     

    Your argument somewhat supports mine.

     

    God simply doesn't say "this person will be a leper, this person will get breast cancer".

     

    We choose those experiences to grow as souls. From the hardest lessons, come the greatest growth.

  11. Posted · Edited by italiangirl

    So you don't believe in things like destiny then?   

     

    I do believe in certain situations people who meet and fall in love are compatible with each other and it's natural that they will be together because there are so well suited to each other that they have so much in common, they mesh so perfectly together.

     

    I don't think they have a SET path for the future, but they will be together in the future in some form, though the EXACT destination may vary to some degree depending on certain factors whether internal or external.

     

    But I don't think it's written before they were born, and that would extend to natural disasters too.

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    But that's not destiny.

     

    Not meant to be together.

     

    If the future's not written, than your example of love doesn't mesh with your answer.

     

    Nothing is written in stone by your definition.

     

    Therefore, the love issue doesn't come into play at all.

     

    People may have many soulmates, not just one.

     

    And by your definition, there is no such thing as a soulmate or a true love.

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    So you don't believe in things like destiny then?   

     

    I do believe in certain situations people who meet and fall in love are compatible with each other and it's natural that they will be together because there are so well suited to each other that they have so much in common, they mesh so perfectly together.

     

    I don't think they have a SET path for the future, but they will be together in the future in some form, though the EXACT destination may vary to some degree depending on certain factors whether internal or external.

     

    But I don't think it's written before they were born, and that would extend to natural disasters too.

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    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so you answer would be NO then? :( :laugh: B)

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    I'm fully aware of what causes earthquakes and tsunami.

     

    I don't believe they are sent from God because as an Atheist, I do not believe that a god exists.

     

    What I was commenting on, is I find it a contradiction that people would need the blessings of a hypothetical god to locate the missing victims of the disaster, when presumably, the all powerful hypothetical god who created the universe sent the earthquake and disaster in the first place.

     

    If a god existed (for arguments sake), then surely being all powerful, he would prevent such a disaster?

     

    You posted this earlier:

     

    May God help and guide them through this difficult time. Help them find anyone who lost during the earthquack [sic].

     

    Why would they need his help and guidance AFTER the disaster to look for the lost?

     

    Why wouldn't he have just prevented the disaster before it happened?

     

    If he's was the creator of all things, he created the planet and it's earthquakes and tsunami, and being all-wise he would know that at some point an earthquake would hit on Boxing Day 2004, create a tsunami and kill thousands of innocent people?

     

    God can't stop something that He place in motion.

     

    The alleged god can't stop something???

     

    So, he's not all-powerful?

     

    He created the universe and can't or won't stop an earthquake?

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    Personally, I believe in the ancient story where you set up what will occur in your lifetime before your soul comes to join your body.

     

    Therefore, those who sacrificed their lifes today, did so according to their life plan.

     

    Today's earthquake and tidal waves were long ago set in motion, and these people today just fulfilled part of their destiny.

     

    God is not intentionally cruel.

     

    He works with us, not against us.

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    Dupage Arpt. 12/25/2004 10:53 AM EST

    Temperature: 13°F -11°C

    Conditions: Light Snow

    Winds: S 13 MPH S 21 KPH

    Relative Humidity: 77%

    Barometer: 30.06 Falling

    Visibility: 3.00 Miles 4.83 Kilometers

    Feels Like: -1°F