I saw this topic at TrekBBS and thought it would make for a good topic here as well. Do you think Trek as a whole should get a "reboot" and be modernised?

My answer is NO. When you have comics and stuff or stand alone movies, remakes and retellings are bound to happen. However, the reason why I love Trek and would never watch a remake is becuase the story goes on. When one show, movie, or series of movies ends, you can go on with new adventures and a new crew. I also don't want a Trek series that would get all pollitical and story arcs about Earth and all that. For me, STAR TREK is about a human crew with some aliens on a starship, explorring the cosmos, and telling great science-fiction stories in the process along with some interresting moral and ethical situations. To me, that is what STAR TREK is all about. I feel a re-make or reboot would totally destroy this.

My big question is: Why do a reboot or remake when you can do a continuation?

Also, who cares if continuity is off in the long run as long as it's intact within a TV series or group of movies. When you have a franchise as big as Trek, there's bound to be inconsistancies between series. It happens.

Anywho, what are your thoughts on this topic?

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I dont think a remake would be an especially good idea.Like you said Star Trek is a continuing story and a remake would ruin this

I too don't want to see a remake, though it would be interesting to see how they would do it as maybe a Movie and not as a series.

im with VBG here, it would be interesting to see how they would do it.

Yeah, but the thing is, I feel that if they did a remake or reboot, we'd never get a continuation of the existing Trek universe.

Two similar threads merged here - AE


A friend of mine came up with the idea of rebooting the STAR TREK franchise, much like what is done in the "comic book" genre.

So, are you for a reboot of the franchise or against it?

Personally, I'm against the franchise for two reasons:
1. Once a franchise expands as large as Trek has, why reboot it? Just becuase something's old, doesn't mean it isn't good anymore. People need to learn to appreciate entertainment that isn't new and flashy.

2. If the Trek universe were "rebooted", that would mean that the "existing" Trek universe would never get further stories, and this would tick me off.

As In...Redoing TOS Or Something?

Rebooting, if you mean negating everything that has been done so far in Trek, is a really bad idea. There has been too many years of good stories, characters, etc. just to delete them all and start over at the beginning.

Or maybe I don't understand the concept?

Yes, rebooting as in ignorring all that is established. VERY BAD IDEA.

Well...I'm sure B&B Aren't That Far Gone

It seems to me that what you're talking about wouldn't even be the same series. It wouldn't be Star Trek at all. If you want a different story about the same time period, that's fine. But we already know what happened to the Enterprise, Kirk, Picard, etc. You can't just go changing things now.

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I think it is a very very bad idea.If that happened i think it would be the end of star trek as we know it.Not a good idea at all

I see no need in rebooting Star trek, Its perfectly fine the way it is!

VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY BAD IDEA

Terrible idea, how could a person even conjure up such a horrible idea? No offense, but-

OMG, very very bad! Not only would it ruin Star Trek but why would it be needed? There's a massive galaxy out there and whole era's of time that have not been investigated.

I have to admit given the success of the new BG the idea may hold some merit but it'd be a very square pill to swallow. I'd rather the owners just put some real sweat equity into creating bigger better more competitive Trek in the same universe we all know and love.

Any more opinions on this subject?

After 5 Regular TV Shows, A Cartiin Show And 10 Movies...A Reboot Seems Kinda Pointless To Me.

Is BG really successful? I'm shocked. People will watch anything these days!

As for a Trek reboot, I agree with the majority here. It would be a travesty to ignore all of the Trek that has come before. Like someone else said, there are several missing gaps in the Trek timeline that can be explored. 2 examples are the time between the end of TOS and TMP and the time between Kirk's time and Picard's.

Apparently rebooting the Original Series is J. M. Straczynski's idea for series 6. I agree it is a very bad idea. It works for BSG because it had no spinoffs, nothing to connect to.

I would hate for the convoluted continuity of comic books to take hold in Star Trek.

Yes, It Is.

I personally would be against it,but rebooting the franchise (starting all over) may not fail as badly as some of us think.Many comic book publishers regularly (about every 10 to 15) years "reboot" an iconic character like Superman,Batman,or Spider-man...sometimes it works,sometimes it blows up in their faces.Fans are fickle....you never know what the fanbase will do or think.

Well...We Are Part Of The Trek Fanbase

Well,yeah...I meant the whole fanbase.
Have you ever met some of the nuts at startrek.com's message boards?
There's never any telling what they'd think or do....

Control apple reset = bad!

Yes...Yes I Have...

Plain and simple NO

It's shocking that after over 730 episodes (including ST TAS) and 10 movies that anyone would even dote on a concept like this.

They already did that- its a tv show called

Gene Roddenberry's ANDROMEDA

It just finished a 5-season run: better then either Enterprise or TOS Star Trek and equal to Babylon-5.

Well...

The reason it worked for Battlestar Galactica is because the original was so friggin aweful. Ronald Moore took the ideas that worked, chucked what didn't, and made a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

By contrast, the original Star Trek is one of the greatest television shows ever produced, right up there with Twilight Zone, Outer Limits, Seinfeld, M*A*S*H, Roots (miniseries), and the Sopranos.

No way it just would not be right........ I hate it when they redo old shows the Dukes of Hazard is a good example of that........ Loved the oringinal but hated the move

Interesting discussion that now seems to have new life.

I have no problem revisiting what I said.



I believe the topic refers to a full on, forget everything which came before reboot which is not what we got. Star Trek isn't a square pill at all, for me.

You know, now that I think about it, that CJLP or anyone would even think of asking proves something had to be done.

I think as can be told through the alternative theme music this is an AU version of star trek.... Not the trek we grew up with. This is what is reinvigorating the series, as it opens the characters up to differences and also the situations are going to be somewhat skewed because of the various differences. The trek we know and love exists in a different universe under quantum physics. this is just a telling of a different universe. I like this idea because it allows more people to start with a high tech version and allows more people in to see it as a viable non cheesy entity. And Shatner had more cheese than all the chicago pizzas eaten in a year.

Actually, Chicago pizzas are more dough than anything else.

Picky Picky

Wait a minute! You're in London! Probably never been to Chicago in your life. How the heck would you know what the pizzas are like? Go eat your marmite pizza or whatever you guys eat over there.

She was born there... in an Alternate timeline...

we have chicago town pizzas here

Well we never heard of a London pizza here.

We don't brand everything with our city's name!

Please stay on topic.

Oh come on, even VBG broke topic on this one.

And my request applies to him as well. Please stay on topic.

Reboot shows like my favorites, Voyager, or Enterprise? NO!!They are as they are, whatever ones' tastes. Films may be one thing, but this general, 'oh, let's do it over' can go too far. The actors who brought us Archer, Sisko and Janeway and Picard should REMAIN the people who gave flesh and wonderful substance to the captains and crew whomever we love .The subsequent series are to me things that, despite whatever criticisms handed this or that one-some, sadly, more than others-kept the spirit of ST going, for me, and I followed them all over the years. Just because some think they were lacking, well, that's their opinion, if I can say, but, they all have their loyal fans, and we're content I think most of us with what we were given. Could there have been improvements, or things not going a certain way? Sure. But I still believe they deserve to be kept as they are. However, as for a new series altogether-BRING IT On!!

I agree with the above statement, but ... I wonder what a new version of the Animated series would look like? Probably pretty interesting and the animation would certainly be more lifelike, but they would need to get the same quality of writers for it to be as good. And at the risk of annoying Takara, I thought discussion of Chicago style pizza was NEVER off topic!

Rather than a reboot of the post-TOS series, I'd like to see what the 24th century has to offer based on the timeline from the new movie but with different characters. Maybe in 10 or 15 years I could handle a reboot of TNG but it's too soon now.

And if anyone wants to discuss Chicago-style pizza they are free to do so in the Off Topic Discussions forum. And I'm not even close to being annoyed.

I'm no fan of the canon problems that have been raised by the new movie, I wish they had been more careful on a few things but I'd actually be interested to see this crew in a weekly series. I'd much rather they do it in the 'real' Star Trek timeline though. They could still have new stories and shape the characters the way they'd want to in order to attract new fans and still stay within canon. Using the "alternate timeline" excuse is just a cop out in my view. A "catch all" to cover themselves for a lack of respect/knowledge/research/caring (or whatever else it might be) about the history of Trek.

I'd like to see a new series that does more to establish relations in the Beta Quadrant. DS9 took us into the heart of the Gamma with the Dominion, and VOY gave a good beginner's course on the Delta, but no series really looked too much at the Beta Quadrant.

I don't have too much in mind for a staple crew... I do think now that we've had a woman and a minority as captains, a new series should have a non-human, Federation species as captain. Maybe an Andorian.