 Dominion war Question Please help |
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  Sep 17 2003, 12:21 AM
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 Lt. Commander  Group: The Founders Posts: 201 Joined: 13-September 03 Member No.: 499 Country:  My Mood: Blank 
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HI all there is something that has always confused about the domininon war. That is how come Sisco always said to Martok or The Romulans we must save the alpha Q. now if i know my Star Trek I know that the klingons and the romulans both have there Empires in the BEta Q. so how come they never mentioned the beta Q.
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Sep 17 2003, 12:40 AM
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2 Bar Federation Ambassador  Group: The Founders Posts: 7315 Joined: 30-March 03 Member No.: 126 Country:  My Mood: Blank
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Well, becuase the Federation is right there next to the border, with some of it in the Beta Quadrant. If the Dominion conquered the Federation, it'd be too easy to conquer the Klingons and Romulans.
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Sep 17 2003, 02:54 AM
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plus...the alpha quadrant(ie federation) is the buffer between the gamma and beta quadrants...thus if the alpha quadrant fell to the dominion, then the romulan and klingon empires (ie beta quadrant) would be next...
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Sep 17 2003, 03:47 AM
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Save Enterprise Australian  Group: The Founders Posts: 2481 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Australia Member No.: 406 Country:  My Mood: Anxious 
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stole my thunder guys!
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Sep 17 2003, 04:32 PM
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 Commodore Group: The Founders Posts: 1048 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Canada, Ontario Member No.: 414 Country: My Mood: Blank
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While according to the spacial maps of the galaxy, alot of the big species are in the beta quad; however, it has been my impression that when they speak of the Alpha Q, they are usually refering to the big gob of explored space. Most watchers don't know who is a part of the beta quadrant, it isn't really mentioned. To keep it simple, they just say alpha quad. Also, more of the alpha quad is explored than the beta quad according to the map I speak of. And my last point is... don't pay much attention to the official regions of space. They are completly messup up distance wise... so they could easily be messed up location wise. I really you know what "map" I'm talking about or else you must be really confused right now.
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Sep 18 2003, 10:53 AM
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 Captain  Group: Ships Crew Posts: 504 Joined: 5-April 03 From: Toronto Member No.: 144 |
As mentioned, the Romulan and Klingon empires are on the border of the Alpha Quadrant and it's not like The Dominion would stop in the Alpha Quadrant when just as couple hours away are the Klingon and Romulan home worlds.
And it's true that the beta quadrant is almost never mentioned by name. This post has been edited by ~Crims~: Sep 18 2003, 10:54 AM |
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 Sep 21 2003, 04:51 AM
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 Lieutenant (Junior Grade)  Group: The Founders Posts: 34 Joined: 19-August 03 Member No.: 448 Country: My Mood: Blank
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I believe this is the map (or at least a similar one) that the good Commander spoke of above.
The Milky Way: Star Trek style 
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Sep 21 2003, 09:47 PM
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Lt. Commander Group: The Founders Posts: 201 Joined: 13-September 03 Member No.: 499 Country: My Mood: Blank
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thanks
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Apr 22 2006, 04:18 PM
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Gary Group: Ships Crew Posts: 752 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Buffalo Grove, IL (working there, anyways) Member No.: 776 Country: My Mood: Tired 
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It's like a game of Domino's. If the Federation falls, the Alpha Quadrant falls. If the Alpha Quadrant falls, the Klingons and the Romulans will fall, and thus the Beta Quadrant will fall...
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Jun 21 2006, 10:23 PM
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 Terran Emperor  Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick 
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don't forget the delta quadrant
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Jun 21 2006, 10:31 PM
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The Dominion wouldn't really have any access to the Delta Quadrant unless they took the long road... Maybe in a few centuries, they will be fighting the Kazon and Viidians, but I doubt it.
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Jun 21 2006, 10:40 PM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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don't forget the borg, but they would still try to conquer it
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Jun 21 2006, 11:07 PM
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Black and Gold Forever Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3992 Joined: 6-January 04 From: Mechanicsburg, PA Member No.: 692 Country: My Mood: Working
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The Jem'Hadar would make an excellent battle drone, if the Borg could supply them with a synthetic ketracel white. I do wonder if the Borg could successfully assimilate a Founder.
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Jun 22 2006, 03:49 PM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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probably couldnt seeing how they have no actuall blood cells. they would of died within the borg had assimulated them.
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 Feb 3 2008, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Korthedaharmaster @ Sep 16 2003, 09:21 PM) [snapback]73766[/snapback] HI all there is something that has always confused about the domininon war. That is how come Sisco always said to Martok or The Romulans we must save the alpha Q. now if i know my Star Trek I know that the klingons and the romulans both have there Empires in the BEta Q. so how come they never mentioned the beta Q. ????        You need to remember that the wormhole that the Domimion used to get to the Alpha Quadrant was located in the Alpha Quadrant! Also being the Dominion was allied with the Cardassians and used there territory to build up there forces, was also in the Alpha Quadrant. Due to this the Alpha Quadrant was the key to everything, if it fell into enemy hands the Dominion would be able to receive unlimited reinforcements and the path to the Beta Quadrant would be open for invasion! |
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Feb 3 2008, 03:31 PM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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while this is true, the klingons and the romulans wouldn't allow the dominoin to take control of the beta quadrant.
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Feb 3 2008, 03:48 PM
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Lieutenant (Junior Grade) Group: Ships Crew Posts: 44 Joined: 2-February 08 From: Lakewood, WA Member No.: 4383 Country: My Mood: Aggravated
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QUOTE(tj_hawk @ Feb 3 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]424298[/snapback] while this is true, the klingons and the romulans wouldn't allow the dominoin to take control of the beta quadrant. By then it would not have mattered. Once the Alpha Quadrant fell with the total destruction of the combined Federation, Klingon, & Romulan fleets, there would nothing left to stop the Dominion/Cardassion fleets from taking the Beta Quadrant |
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Feb 4 2008, 12:20 AM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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yes ther ewas. the cardassion's defecting to the federation armada
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Feb 4 2008, 04:54 PM
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Lieutenant (Junior Grade) Group: Ships Crew Posts: 44 Joined: 2-February 08 From: Lakewood, WA Member No.: 4383 Country: My Mood: Aggravated
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QUOTE(tj_hawk @ Feb 3 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]424349[/snapback] yes ther ewas. the cardassion's defecting to the federation armada That was at the end of the war, besides it really does not make any difference! If the Alpha Q fell, it would have been doubtful that the Cardassians would have ever switched sides. They would have stated on the winning side. Besides it is not like the Cardassian were very powerful anyway, they were the weakest race in the Alpha & Beta Q. |
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Feb 4 2008, 06:45 PM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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no it wouldn't happen. like any great power, you'd have to exterminate every man, woman and child to actually make sure your power is absolute
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Feb 4 2008, 06:48 PM
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 Live life like a "Butterfly"- every day is your last Group: Ships Crew Posts: 4957 Joined: 17-July 04 Member No.: 1367 Country:  My Mood: Peaceful 
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Is it natural to love the Cardassians? Because I do...
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Feb 4 2008, 06:51 PM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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hmm...well they do have a certain flair for their work lol
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Feb 4 2008, 08:16 PM
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Live life like a "Butterfly"- every day is your last Group: Ships Crew Posts: 4957 Joined: 17-July 04 Member No.: 1367 Country: My Mood: Peaceful
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They seem to be really nice...... the opposite of Klingons. I could talk Klingonese at one point.
And I'm going off topic I should shut up now... 
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Feb 5 2008, 11:07 AM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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lol
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Feb 6 2008, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(tj_hawk @ Feb 4 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]424476[/snapback] no it wouldn't happen. like any great power, you'd have to exterminate every man, woman and child to actually make sure your power is absolute What would not happen??? Besides it was more then likely that in the end the Dominion were going to exterminate every man, woman and child from every race including the once who were allied with them. |
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Feb 6 2008, 08:12 PM
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Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: My Mood: Sick
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they wouldn't kill anyone unless they were loyal to them
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Feb 7 2008, 04:44 PM
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Lieutenant (Junior Grade) Group: Ships Crew Posts: 44 Joined: 2-February 08 From: Lakewood, WA Member No.: 4383 Country: My Mood: Aggravated
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QUOTE(tj_hawk @ Feb 6 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]424793[/snapback] they wouldn't kill anyone unless they were loyal to them Thats not true. |
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Feb 8 2008, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE(MrPsychic @ Jun 21 2006, 08:07 PM) [snapback]387576[/snapback] The Jem'Hadar would make an excellent battle drone, if the Borg could supply them with a synthetic ketracel white. I do wonder if the Borg could successfully assimilate a Founder. I doubt assimilated Jem'Hadar would need Ketracel White. While the Jem'Hadar are genetically engineered to need it, the Borg are known to use genetic manipulation to alter drones, both for specific uses and for drone standardization. A little genetic manipulation, and the White is no longer needed. -------------------- |
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Feb 8 2008, 06:25 PM
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Lieutenant (Junior Grade) Group: Ships Crew Posts: 44 Joined: 2-February 08 From: Lakewood, WA Member No.: 4383 Country: My Mood: Aggravated
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QUOTE(WishfireOmega @ Feb 8 2008, 03:49 AM) [snapback]424925[/snapback] QUOTE(MrPsychic @ Jun 21 2006, 08:07 PM) [snapback]387576[/snapback] The Jem'Hadar would make an excellent battle drone, if the Borg could supply them with a synthetic ketracel white. I do wonder if the Borg could successfully assimilate a Founder. I doubt assimilated Jem'Hadar would need Ketracel White. While the Jem'Hadar are genetically engineered to need it, the Borg are known to use genetic manipulation to alter drones, both for specific uses and for drone standardization. A little genetic manipulation, and the White is no longer needed. True, the assimilated Jem'Hadar would not need Ketracel White due to genetic manipulation. |
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