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May 28 2005, 07:17 PM
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3 Bar Federation Ambassador ![]() Group: Federation Vice President Posts: 20372 Joined: 16-February 03 From: a van, down by the river. Member No.: 2 Country: ![]() Sustaining Member: ![]() Trivia Rank: ![]() Founding Member: ![]() |
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ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE: 12.13.2002 STARDATE: 56844.9 Technology: auto destruct emergency transporter armbands Place: Betazed Earth Romulus Alien: Betazoids Dominion, the Ship: Enterprise-E, U.S.S. Romulan warbird Character: Beverly Crusher Commander Donatra Data Deanna Troi Dr. Noonien Soong Geordi La Forge Jean-Luc Picard Kathryn Janeway Shinzon William Riker Worf -------------------- It's Only Money ^ Donate To STF! ^ ![]() |
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May 29 2005, 01:34 PM
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![]() Commodore Schmidtlab! Group: Ships Crew Posts: 3911 Joined: 7-January 04 From: hudson's Hope, British Columbia, CaNaDa Member No.: 717 Country: ![]() My Mood: Curious
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This one the best of all the movies, IMHO. I don't care what everyone else thinks, it was awesome! The only thing i hated was that Data died.
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May 29 2005, 03:14 PM
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![]() Mommy of 1! And #2 is on the way! Group: The Founders Posts: 5837 Joined: 22-March 03 From: With my husband & daughter!! Member No.: 106 Country: ![]() My Mood: Peaceful
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I rated this movie a 4 out of five. It was a pretty good film, I will forever be upset with the ending(Data's death, of course)... but it did not completely spoil this movie for me.
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Jul 1 2005, 08:15 PM
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![]() Heart of Corbomite Group: Ships Crew Posts: 3952 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Georgia USA Member No.: 1537 Country: ![]() My Mood: Excited
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Opening with an assassination of Romulans at the Romulan Senate shows this to be more exciting than its predecessor “Insurrection”. Nemesis is an underrated film that only recently has gained the respect it deserved all along. I always felt that this film had a good sense of balance between humor (Data singing “Blue Skies” and Worf objecting to being nude at the Betazed wedding), action (the dune buggy scene and the Enterprise ramming into the Simitar for example), and drama (the tragic end of the film).
The story of Nemesis has always interested me, in a way, both Data and Picard have met there twins, one being good, one being evil. The villain Shinzon is very interesting and worthy opponent for Picard see he is he. No one can beat you at your own game better than yourself. B4 had a child quality that I had sympathy for. Never understanding what was going on, only doing what he was told, not intentionally bad. So I feel for his character. Both Shinzon and B4 force us to ask the question of what our lives would have been like if things had been different. Two parts of the film really stick out in my mind that make this film excellent, mainly dealing with the ramming of the Enterprise into the great Simitar ship, a very dramatic scene that was pulled off perfectly. The Reman ship the Simitar is quite impressive and proves most formidable to the Enterprise. Another scene that caught my attention was when Troi probed into the Viceroy’s mind to discover the location of the Simitar, well done! Of course, seeing Admiral Janeway was a thrill for me since I loved the TV series Voyager. It is nice to see her character at such a great position. Nemesis had some of the best acting I have seen out of the TNG crew, and I love TNG. When Riker is fighting the Viceroy in the last battle between the two, you can literally see the fear in Riker’s at not knowing where the enemy was hiding. The chemistry between Picard and Shinzon was electric; you can feel the hostility just by watching the two peer into each others eyes. And yes, this is the tragic film in which this is the death of Data, a very quite moment with the only words spoken being “Good Bye”. This is indeed a sad scene, not so much of his death, but his memorial service when they are discussing Data even now brings tears to my eyes. But there is comfort that B4 at least has some of Data left in him. Overall, this is a great film which is finally getting praise by fans for being so. Only the future will tell if this becomes even more popular than it is, and I believe it will. As I watched Picard leave his office and stride down the hall for what could be the last time we see, I realized something, if this is indeed the last TNG movie, it was definitely a good high class film to go out on. **** ½ out of ***** |
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Sep 5 2005, 07:06 PM
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![]() Captain Group: Ships Crew Posts: 700 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Behind You Member No.: 2080 Country: ![]() My Mood: Lonely
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Like as previous, I thought it was fairly good, I loved the dune buggy scene.
I literly chucked my remote control into hte wall when I saw Data get blown into space dust! -------------------- "Ever wonder why broccoli is reluctant to play checkers?" - Chef Brian
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Sep 5 2005, 10:42 PM
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![]() Pain hurts... Group: The Founders Posts: 3420 Joined: 5-September 03 From: The hottest, most horrible place in the deepest, hottest pits of Florida! Member No.: 480 Country: ![]() My Mood: Disappointed
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I loved this movie and cannot wait to own the Special Edition, but if Data, my favorite character I'm not in love with, had survived and Picard had died I think it would have been more meaningful. LONG LIVE DATA! -------------------- "Have you ever heard the story of the dog and the dancing monkeys? It has something to do with getting along... and dancing." ![]() Read my Voyager reviews! |
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Sep 5 2005, 11:15 PM
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![]() The Shaman of Sexy Group: Ships Crew Posts: 3943 Joined: 5-March 05 From: Right now Jacksonville FL, I miss Pittsburgh Member No.: 1823 Country: ![]() My Mood: Gloomy
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QUOTE(LordOfTheBorg @ May 29 2005, 01:34 PM) This one the best of all the movies, IMHO. I don't care what everyone else thinks, it was awesome! The only thing i hated was that Data died. [right][snapback]327671[/snapback][/right] i agree, one of my Favorite, I even think I like it more then FC,(im sick of time traveling) it was an awsome action flick, and a totally different opening then ever before, a nice change of pace, and Im glad its gettting respect in the Trek Community I always Knew it deserved -------------------- ![]() visit me @ myspace www.myspace.com/kingjoeisback |
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Sep 6 2005, 06:19 AM
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![]() Captain Group: Ships Crew Posts: 700 Joined: 5-September 05 From: Behind You Member No.: 2080 Country: ![]() My Mood: Lonely
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QUOTE(sea trooper @ Sep 6 2005, 01:42 PM) 4 I loved this movie and cannot wait to own the Special Edition, but if Data, my favorite character I'm not in love with, had survived and Picard had died I think it would have been more meaningful. LONG LIVE DATA! [right][snapback]350468[/snapback][/right] ooh, I aggree Data was a much more meaningfull character. Though Picard was good and easily the most "brought out" character, he wouldn't have been missed so much. wait. wait!. WAIT!!!!!!!!! there's a special edition coming out?????????????????????????????? OMGOMGOMOGMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG -------------------- "Ever wonder why broccoli is reluctant to play checkers?" - Chef Brian
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Nov 27 2005, 07:59 PM
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Lieutenant (Junior Grade) Group: Ships Crew Posts: 28 Joined: 6-August 05 Member No.: 2045 Country: ![]() My Mood: Blank
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I enjoyed this movie very much except for a couple of things.
The first is when they find B4. It happens a lot where the Enterprise just happens to be in the right place in a large galaxy at the right time. They could have come up with a better explanation on finding the android parts. The second thing is the lack of use of the other characters. As is the case in recent movies the focus is for the most part on Data and Picard. This one does have some content for Riker and Troi but what about the rest? -------------------- ThetaFive
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Nov 28 2005, 01:19 AM
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![]() Commodore Group: Ships Crew Posts: 1263 Joined: 10-January 04 From: Montreal Quebec Member No.: 803 Country: ![]() My Mood: Hot
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Star Trek:Nemesis
----------------------- It Gets a 5 from me + a triple Bonus of Admiral Janeway/Guinan/Wesley Crusher at least in the end credits and the possible Swan Song of the TNG films going out in a Blaze of Glory -Data This post has been edited by LoveMalePecs1: Nov 28 2005, 09:38 PM -------------------- "The Way I see it, If you're going to build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?" -Doc Emmett L.Brown ( Back To The Future )
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Sep 26 2007, 10:36 AM
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![]() Hero of Mandalorians the galaxy over. Group: Ships Crew Posts: 1809 Joined: 28-July 07 From: Wauwatosa, Wisconsin Member No.: 3684 Country: ![]() My Mood: Awake
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An excellent send-off for the TNG crew. Data went out like a hero. IMO, the best TNG movie.
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Sep 26 2007, 10:45 AM
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Dahar Master Group: Ships Crew Posts: 13959 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Baltimore,Maryland Member No.: 1043 Country: ![]() My Mood: Happy
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Although it is far from my favorite Trek movie, I enjoyed Nemesis. I think a lot more could have been done with Shinzon. Also, I didn't like the introduction of the Remans. There has never been any mention of the Romulans sharing a world with another race. Doesn't mean it can't happen. I just think they were playing with canon a bit too much with this. As for Data, I'm not convinced he is dead. No parts have been found. I believe his disembodied head is floating around space just waiting to be attached to B4's body.
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Nov 13 2007, 07:16 PM
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3. My big problem with the Remans is that in TNG, and alluded to is TOS, that Romulans and Vulcans were the sister species and that Romulus and Vulcan are sister planets, and thus the Remans show plain laziness on the part of the writers. Data's death killed off the possibility of another TNG movie, unless B-4 was to, with Data's memories downloaded, suddenly have an identity crisis, but it's still not the same. I didn't see Wesley, but I'll look again before I return the video. Still, lots of good action, writing was decent, thought Shinzon was a little contrived, but they still made it work, especially the actor. B-4's character and backstory REALLY needed to be better written.
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Nov 13 2007, 07:23 PM
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Commodore Gummy Group: Ships Crew Posts: 2204 Joined: 26-September 06 From: Central New York Member No.: 2414 Country: ![]() My Mood: Good
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Of the TNG movies, this one ranks just behind First Contact.
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Nov 14 2007, 04:43 AM
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Commander Group: Ships Crew Posts: 390 Joined: 19-August 07 From: USA, North America, Earth, Sol, Milkyway (I prefer Snickers), lost somewhere in time and space Member No.: 3975 Country: ![]() My Mood: Drained
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As an action movie Nemesis was good, as a Star Trek movie it was mediocre. The best part of the movie was the running dune buggy chase and battle. I'm guessing that they were looking for a movie to attract fans of the action movie genre and failed at it considering the lackluster box office performance and lack of fan support. I gave it a 3.
The movie had some interesting highs and lows for me: Highs 1) The dune buggy running battle and chase (Was somebody watching reruns of The Rat Patrol?) 2) Data bites the dust (I have wanted Data and Wesley Crusher dead since the series) 3) Picard's best man toast 4) Mister Troi..... Nuff said!!! LOL 5) Data.....shut up!! Lows 1) ANOTHER!!!! Data (wasn't Lor enough for them) 2) Data sings 3) I was REALLY REALLY looking forward to the wedding on Betazed (Dr.Crusher and Deanna Troi only) 4) Picard clone 5) The texture/paint job on the Enterprise E 6) The Romulan/Reman conflict was not handled well I gave the movie a 3, it wasn't really very well written and was a poor send off to The Next Generation cast -------------------- "NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C, or D."
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Nov 14 2007, 11:17 AM
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![]() Terran Emperor Group: Trivia Leader Posts: 3744 Joined: 1-November 03 From: American Empire Member No.: 581 Country: ![]() My Mood: Sick
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well you can blame frakes for that. from what i hear, the *buttocks* actually had a hand in some of the writing.
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Dec 11 2007, 06:35 PM
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![]() Captain Group: Ships Crew Posts: 814 Joined: 8-October 05 From: Montana Member No.: 2114 Country: ![]() My Mood: Blank
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I give it a 5
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Dec 22 2007, 12:56 PM
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![]() Captain Group: Ships Crew Posts: 545 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Wherever the party is... Member No.: 4315 Country: ![]() My Mood: Flirty
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Shinzon was utterly useless, but the premise was interesting.
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Jan 9 2008, 09:57 AM
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![]() Commander Group: Ships Crew Posts: 275 Joined: 8-January 08 From: Raccoon City, MI Member No.: 4357 Country: ![]() My Mood: Giddy
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This one was a good movie, I gave it a 4. I liked how the ending was as solemn as "All good things. . ."
I loved the the scene with the bridge being struck by weapons fire. AMAZING! -------------------- This is war, survival is YOUR responsibility
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Apr 7 2009, 02:25 PM
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Commodore of Star Base 79 Group: The Founders Posts: 1177 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Northern Ireland Member No.: 120 Country: ![]() My Mood: Busy
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Picard does his "solemn duty" speech which turns out to be a best man speech (ho ho ho) which rang of Riker's speech re Worf's promotion at the start of Generations. Data's double turns up - again! I can't believe Troi got mind raped again! What is it with her? Picard drones on about Picard family history - again! and what a dreamer he was. The ship gets wrecked.
I don't know what is was about this movie - it just seemed a bit unoriginal. Same old same old. 3 out of 10. Come back kids playing in the straw on the planet of eternal youth - all is forgiven! -------------------- Shelby: Hey, look! A Borg footprint!
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Apr 7 2009, 06:27 PM
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General Khan Group: Ships Crew Posts: 1641 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 1245 Country: ![]() My Mood: Working
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A 4 it was fairly entertaining
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Apr 11 2009, 02:46 PM
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Lieutenant Group: Ships Crew Posts: 52 Joined: 31-January 08 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 4381 Country: ![]() My Mood: Creative
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I liked Nemsis better than Generations, but not as much as I liked First Contact.
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Apr 11 2009, 04:48 PM
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Commodore Group: Ships Crew Posts: 1100 Joined: 21-August 08 From: North Carolina Member No.: 4528 Country: ![]() My Mood: Calm
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I liked it. Of course, Data dying wasn't a preference, but, in reality, Brent felt he was becoming too old to play him realistically in appearance....
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