master_q 0 Posted January 17, 2004 Most trivia chat room sessions I throw in a couple of random questions. Today in our 12th Star Trek trivia session one of the random questions I asked was: (Solve for x) ln x = 2 It seemed that no one knew what the answer was so I gave the answer: Answer: x = e^2 Then I asked if anyone know logs. Someone then complained that the question was not a log question, but a trig question and that it was one of the many trig functions. Indeed there are trig questions that may require the use of logarithmic functions, but that is just a build up of the use of different mathematics. And the question I asked was not meant to have any connection to trig. And no one is denying that e^x is the only function having a rate of growth equal to its size. And itdoes have connections to other constants and trig like the very famous equation: e^(i * pi) + 1 = 0 Whats the connection to trig? e^(ix) = cos x + i sin x Which means . . . ix = ln (cos x + i sin x) And the cool thing is if x equals pi then we get e^(i * pi) + 1 = 0 No one is denying this. e is one of those great #s that has many connections and many interlinking between all the great branches of math, but the idea that my question was a trig question is absolutely false and makes no sense. One of the most common definition of e is with (1+1/n)^n. When n approaches infinity (1+1/n)^n approaches e. e = 2.718281828459045235360287471352662497757247093699959574966967628 . . . For those that don't know calculus: Think of n getting bigger and bigger . . . Like if n = 1 then the answer would turn out to be 2 [(1+1/1)^1 = 2] If n = 2 then we get 2.25 If n = 1,000 then the answer is about 2.716923 If n = 1,000,000 then the answer is about 2.71828 If n = infinity then the answer is about 2.718281828459 (If you look at the above you see the bigger # we put in the closer we get to e) (We could also look at e as summation notation, but that' a another story and the notation will be harder to demonstrate.) Back to the question I asked (Solve for x) ln x = 2 ln x = 2 {Reads: natural log of x equals 2) Means the same as . . . loge x = 2 {Reads: log base e of x equals 2) This means . . . e^2 = x (e^2 is about 7.38905609) It really was as simple as that. There is nothing more to it then that. Let's not make my question more complex then what it really was. Master Q StarTrek_Master_Q@yahoo.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace 0 Posted January 18, 2004 Arg!! I could've gotten that! When I read it in the chat, I thought it said "solve for X In (as in the word "in") x = 2." I guess that can happen when you're going fast-paced, and in the chat's font, the uppercase I and lower case l are the same. I'll pay more attention to that next time. erm,,, sorry. I just felt like explaining that. :blink: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
master_q 0 Posted January 18, 2004 That's ok. Anyone could have made that mistake. Master Q StarTrek_Master_Q@yahoo.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites