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Trek Network?

Would you watch an All Star Trek Network?  

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  1. 1. Would you watch an All Star Trek Network?

    • Hell Yeah!
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    • Sure, sounds great!
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    • Yep. I'd watch.
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    • Eh, maybe
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    • Nah. Too much Trek is a bad thing
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    • Nope, I hate Trek.
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    • Jim, you'r an idiot (family only!)
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I think a channel like Sci-Fi that had all of the Trek series and movies would work better than just having Trek.

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Jeez king could you not shut up about the way you hate ent, we have had enough. I am not a huge fan of it, I can watch it, don't mean to say I love it, but being as repetative as you are now, is frankly annoying and depressing. I just don't wantit, and nor do others of this site, which doesn't mean we are pulling an osterich imperonation, just that we don't wish to read it. we purely put up our ent/trek wish lists as a way of sorting out the world into what we desire, knowing full well that it will never happen, and knowing that if it did, it may never reach our desire for its potential to be realised, sometimes it is healthier to dream a fantasy than to allow the reality and the negative emotions that sometimes occurr (this is true positive thinking)

 

As I have said. I believe a show that had a mandate to show trek in some form at least once a day during weekdays and to also show other sci fi, documentaries and other non reality television programs with an emphasis on quality and other culture programming.

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I would say the idea is pretty appealing. Having all of the different series of Trek on television works well for those (people like me) who can't afford the DVD's, or who have channels that show Star Trek but it's on at 3am or for those of us who have school or work and don't have a chance to see the episodes that Spike shows from 11am to 2pm, and then cuts out some of the content on top of that.

 

Another thing I like about this idea as opposed to owning the DVD's is that episodes are better when there is anticipation built for them. So, like Jack Bauer (sorry if I butchered your screen name spelling) said, there would be a substantial time period between episodes, so you appreciate them better when you have to wait for them.

 

Along with the ideas of different content, I'd like that idea too, like Leonard Nimoy's old "In Search Of" show and have some of that "Reading Rainbow" with Levar Burton for some children education. Plus there's science-oriented shows like about astronomy and things like that. Plus, I'm sure like the actors and crew people would like to tell about experiences while working on the shows, those would make some interesting documentarys. Bottom line, I WOULD watch it.

 

I mean, if even :P SOAP OPERAS B) get their own channel then Star Trek should too.

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Honestly, I am not sure. I would probably tune in for TNG.

 

 

King had mentioned about how we could easily just watch the DVD's of the series.. excuse me but not ALL of us have the money to spend on those DVD sets. Since they run between 75 and 130 dollars a season. Personally, as much as I like TNG (and no, not tired of it though I have seen the entire series a few times through reruns), I have bills I have to pay so my money goes to that instead. And I plan on moving sometime within the year, so that will be a whole new set of bills to pay. So no DVD sets for me to keep watching the series... and now that Spike tv has made it a royal pain in the butt to catch TNG (especially the way my daily schedule runs) it would be kind of cool to have a station where I could tune in and catch it from time to time. 11am - 2pm, I happen to be either still at work or at college. And to catch TOS, at 3am... impossible, that is about half an hour before I wake up to get ready to go to work.

 

I also agree with Takara.. it could be like the sci-fi network, it does not have to be all Trek all the time. That would be pretty cool, you could also incorporate maybe sci-fi flics that have people from Trek that appear in it. (I am assuming that was what you meant by "having Trek series and movies would work better than just having Trek)

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King had mentioned about how we could easily just watch the DVD's of the series.. excuse me but not ALL of us have the money to spend on those DVD sets.

 

You'd still need to pay subscription for that channel.

 

It's likely that only the hardcore fans would watch Trek all day or for a block of several hours so it's more profitable for Paramount to simply produce expensive DVD's for those kind of fans to buy, which they would.

 

For the less hardcore fans, they could simply buy the video or DVD sets of their favourite series or watch re-runs on TV whenever they appear.

 

Manchester United (:P) also have their own half-day dedicated television channel on Sky, but the subscription level is only very small since most fans tend to be happy with watching the games on Sky Sports and not paying the extra amount for interviews, classic games etc...

 

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King had mentioned about how we could easily just watch the DVD's of the series.. excuse me but not ALL of us have the money to spend on those DVD sets.

 

You'd still need to pay subscription for that channel.

I do not know how expensive or inexpensive subscriptions are where you live.. but here, sometimes the prices for adding a channel to either cable or satellite are not too bad. Granted I am sure some channels can be. I may not have enough to easily run out and spend on seven seasons of TNG, I am not so broke that I could not afford to add a tv channel.

 

And would be worth adding to a preexisting package. It would be something my family probably would pay the comparatively small price of since then not only would I get TNG, my parents could more easily catch TOS, my brother could catch up with DS9, and any of us could finally catch VOY or even ENT (since UPN was dropped where I live, we cannot watch any of the programming of that channel unless we stay up and try to catch it after the Prime time schedule on the FOX network airs. So except for rare times we have not seen much of any of those series.).

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Sky TV is pretty expensive. About £40 a month if you have the entire package.

 

It's the "overkill" I worry about.

 

I personally feel it's better to broadcast Trek in relatively small amounts. If you put too much of it out in a small period of time and certainly on it's own dedicated channel, it might dilute the interest in it.

 

For example, the World Cup is held every four years. If it were held every week, it wouldn't be as special.

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Sky TV is pretty expensive. About £40 a month if you have the entire package.
Ah, ok. In my case we have a specific amount we pay(I do not remember exactly how much my family pays for our DishNetwork package) and can add channels for a small addition to the fee. I know we had recently upped the package to gain around 5 more channels..but it was nothing drastic.

 

It's the "overkill" I worry about.
Then I guess it would be a true test on the overkill theory. If the station tanks in under a year, then people are truly oversaturated and think it is overkill. If it survives, then it was not as beaten to death as one would originally surmise. It is going to be a wait and see situation. We could all sit here and debate until we are all blue in the face and our fingers falling off from all the typing.... but it all comes down to seeing if the idea of a Trek network or even continuing Trek happens at all. I will say that I am on the side of saying a Trek network would be a nice idea.

 

I personally feel it's better to broadcast Trek in relatively small amounts. If you put too much of it out in a small period of time and certainly on it's own dedicated channel, it might dilute the interest in it.
It can be in small amounts... it is up to the person to either get off the couch or raise up their arm and change the channel on the remote. Easy as pie, "ok.. seen three episodes of DS9. That is enough for the day *click* ok, now watching Family Guy on another station" Some people will probably have to be dragged from the tv at hour 48 of marathon Trek watching, but then again that is their perrogative. But you DID say the operative word their, yourself.... it MIGHT dilute it. It also MIGHT spark an interest. Trek in some places (like I had posted in an earlier post in this thread) is pretty tough to catch. In my case, I am either just getting ready to wake up, I am at work or at school. There is no way for me to catch it easily(well I can right now because I am home for the next few days because I am ill), and two of the series I never got to really see because I do not get the network. So definately minutely small amounts are available here. And when it comes to DVDs I do have my TNG movies. But like was suggested by a few people here... it does not have to be solely Trek, mix in Science related shows, or movies. I mean if they wanted to keep Trek as the focus, you still could include other shows and movies...the common denominator could simply be that a Trek actor or actress was in it. Heck, you do not have to stay sci-fi, if they wanted to do that then ...they could play Dracula 2000 (whether viewed as a good film or not, it is just the most recent one that I thought of where I went "hey, she's in Trek") has Jeri Ryan as a reporter in it.

 

For example, the World Cup is held every four years. If it were held every week, it wouldn't be as special.

To me that is a little like comparing apples to oranges. Because World Cup is a sporting event, that is meant to only be done every four years akin to the Olympics. Versus a tv show that is meant to be played much much more often.

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Then I guess it would be a true test on the overkill theory.

 

I doubt Paramount would want to take such a risk with their property. Aside from ENT's failure, the poor performance of the last two movies, merchandise sales for Star Trek seem to be poor over the last ten years or so. It all indicates that Star Trek as a whole is not as popular as it once was. The reasons for this are generally well known. Burnout of the audience and the consumer is the main reason. Given that situation, it wouldn't be a good idea to launch a total Trek channel.

 

I will say that I am on the side of saying a Trek network would be a nice idea.

 

I understand. Personally, I would oppose ANY move to establish a Trek channel.

 

It can be in small amounts... it is up to the person to either get off the couch or raise up their arm and change the channel on the remote.

 

It could be, but then again, what would be the point of broadcasting Trek for hours on end if only a section of the subscribing audience are watching at any one point? There could in theory be hours of Trek being broadcast on such a channel which is being watched by a tiny audience. It's better to just broadcast the shows and movies on regular channels and when Trek is on, you can tune it, and when it's finished, you can switch off or over.

 

But you DID say the operative word their, yourself.... it MIGHT dilute it.

 

Absolutely, but as I said, there's nothing to suggest that any significant demand exists for this Trek channel. The trends seen over the past few years I believe generally support Berman's statement of "franchise fatigue" although, he didn't mention why there is such apathy to Trek, but I have my suspicions.

 

But like was suggested by a few people here... it does not have to be solely Trek, mix in Science related shows, or movies. I mean if they wanted to keep Trek as the focus, you still could include other shows and movies...the common denominator could simply be that a Trek actor or actress was in it.

 

The problem with that is it would be in competition with Discovery Channel for example and they can devote all their programming to science shows. If you are going to add other sci-fi to the channel, then it's essentially just "The Sci-Fi Channel". I don't think broadcasting movies with Trek actors in them would hold up either because again, their roles may be very small and it would be quite a stretch to broadcast a movie simply because someone from Trek appears it in then gets killed five minutes later or so forth.

 

To me that is a little like comparing apples to oranges. Because World Cup is a sporting event, that is meant to only be done every four years akin to the Olympics.

 

Well, it's only held every four years because of tradition. In the old days, it took a long time for people to get around the world. In theory you could hold a World Cup every year since it makes use of existing stadia. The Olympics are held every four years because they insist on everything being built brand new. But related to Trek in the sense that seeing the same roster of programming would be tiresome and indeed it could take away revenue from DVD and video sales. Plus, if the programming was limited to Trek, it would quickly become repetitive. Within a year or so the channel would show everything that it could that related to Trek. They could in theory find some filler material, but it would be very much scraping the barrel. Reducing the hours of broadcasting to spread out the amount of Trek being shown over a period of time may be uneconomical and could result in the channel being split along Trek and other forms of specialist entertainment.

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Well, What John (the guest on my show) and I discussed was the possibility of having the Station set up somewhat like NFL Network is.

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That's the format I was actually thinking of in my mind too. They could run episodes and movies during the afternoon and early evening hours then from about 7:00 PM to 11:00 Pm or 12:00 Am have original programming.

 

I do think it would stagnate after a while though. There are those of us that are completely "Pro" Star Trek and love the whole franchise (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT) and would be regular viewers of the entire network and then there are the segmented sections that hate parts of the franchise for whatever reasons they may have. They would be casual viewer but wouldn't be useful in keeping the network afloat.

 

I would be more interested in Star Trek themed attractions to visit. I've always had a vision in my head of a large Hotel that was designed like DS9. Not on the outside because I don't know that that would be possible. But the inside would be just like the station and it would basically be like an amusement park/hotel. In your room you would have your regular TV channels but you would also have something like the "Trek Network" where you could watch any episode at any given time.

 

Maybe the Hotel in association with a Star Trek Theme Park as a total attraction.

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I actually vote "Nah. Too much trek is a bad thing."

 

I like it the way it is right now with 4 Treks a day on Spike. If Spike, SciFi, or some other network could at least play one or two eps of each series every day, that would be cool. Do I think an entire network playing Trek all day every day would succeed? Not really. Only the die hard fans would watch (which is too small of an audience to keep an entire channel running), and even then oversaturation could become an issue. Even I don't watch DS9 and TNG on Spike every day. If I've seen an ep once or twice and have it on tape, I'm not all that interested in watching it over and over again (unless it's something like "Yesterday's Enterprise" or "The Best of Both Worlds" :P ).

 

As for the DVD sets, they're too freaking expensive B) . We pay for UPN through our Dish satellite now for only an extra 2 bucks or so every month. That's incredibly cheap compared to the sets. At least now we have almost every episode on VHS.

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Well, What John (the guest on my show) and I discussed was the possibility of having the Station set up somewhat like NFL Network is.

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That's the format I was actually thinking of in my mind too. They could run episodes and movies during the afternoon and early evening hours then from about 7:00 PM to 11:00 Pm or 12:00 Am have original programming.

 

I do think it would stagnate after a while though. There are those of us that are completely "Pro" Star Trek and love the whole franchise (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT) and would be regular viewers of the entire network and then there are the segmented sections that hate parts of the franchise for whatever reasons they may have. They would be casual viewer but wouldn't be useful in keeping the network afloat.

 

I would be more interested in Star Trek themed attractions to visit. I've always had a vision in my head of a large Hotel that was designed like DS9. Not on the outside because I don't know that that would be possible. But the inside would be just like the station and it would basically be like an amusement park/hotel. In your room you would have your regular TV channels but you would also have something like the "Trek Network" where you could watch any episode at any given time.

 

Maybe the Hotel in association with a Star Trek Theme Park as a total attraction.

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Actually, VBG, the idea is quite feasible to a certain extent. given my limited knowledge of construction, we could construct the station on the ground, having the lower docking pylons connect to possibly an underground subway, and the Docking ring docking stations could be entrances at certain points.

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Well I don't care if I'm family or not, I still picked "Jim, you're an idiot." :P

 

Seriously, I would watch a Trek network if there was one, but I wouldn't actually schedule time to watch it. It's like MTV back when they only played videos. I would watch it if there was nothing else on, but since I knew it would always be there I didn't worry about missing it.

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