LoveMalePecs1 0 Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) Click For Spoiler Saw "Storm Front, Part II" on UPN and I gave it a 10 cause i think it wrapped up the story nicely and with the destruction of the Building the timelines were able to get back to normal and it was nice when theygot back to earth again and with Friendly Ships("in the right time period") greeted them hopefully and hopefully they'd fix the damage to the Ship ENTERPRISE and Connor Did Look Nice and Tanned and Buff over the Summer time abit Hotter than last time. :( :( :( Edited October 17, 2004 by Ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headborg 1 Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) I only gave it a seven. I had a couple serious problems with a main plot point or two. Click For Spoiler #1: When the 'bad guy' agreed to hand over his two 'hostages' insurance policy and allowed Archer to beam back up to Enterprise- a orbiting weapons platform. I just couldn't see any 'bad guy' doing that..it was just bad writing...but i understand that if they didn't do it...there would have been a whole part 3 of the same story..the story would have required a 'rescue arc' which would dragged out the whole last half of the episode.#2: Didn't Malcomb say that Lenin had been assinated in 1917? so how did Archer Killing the bad guy in 1944 fix the time line back in 1917? and if Daniels is alive and well now , wouldn't the Suliban be alive as well? Edited October 17, 2004 by Ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Klingonmike 0 Posted October 17, 2004 An excellent episode!!!! Loved it!!! If the rest of the season is like this it will be a great season of Enterprise! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayTroi 0 Posted October 18, 2004 I give it a nine out of ten. :( :lol: ^_^ The second half was better than the first half. So far, season four is better than the previous season. :( Let's hope that the rest of season four is as good as Storm Front Parts One and Two. :P :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deagletime 1 Posted October 18, 2004 is it just me or did it end almost exactly like voyager??? i would have fell outta my seat if archer ended the episode by saying someting like "Mr. Merrywether, set a course for home" i have to admit though i did get teary eyes the exact same way at the end of Endgame anyone wanna post some pics of the final ship flyby for comparrison? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obscured Plague 0 Posted October 18, 2004 A solid seven. Click For Spoiler Now, how to clean up the Xindi mess and Florida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riaan 0 Posted October 18, 2004 One word: WOW!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cptn_Calhoun 0 Posted October 18, 2004 I thought as a whole both episodes were an excellent way to start the new season. I am now excited to see the new episodes coming up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sea trooper 0 Posted October 18, 2004 (edited) Click For Spoiler I almost had tears in my eyes at the end when all the ships can to the Enterprise. Edited October 19, 2004 by Ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takara_Soong 4 Posted March 19, 2005 Bumping this for anyone who wants to comment on the rebroadcast of this episode. Personally, I really enjoyed it. Man, I love John Fleck's (Silik) voice - very sexy voice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIMIMELA 1 Posted March 19, 2005 Click For Spoiler I rated it a 4. it was the first and last time i will watch that boring show! it takes the mick out of trek :angry: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted March 19, 2005 I realized that I never rated it before. I give it an 8.0, based on the criticisms I cited in my first post. Click For Spoiler #2: Didn't Malcomb say that Lenin had been assinated in 1917? so how did Archer Killing the bad guy in 1944 fix the time line back in 1917? and if Daniels is alive and well now , wouldn't the Suliban be alive as well? 273488[/snapback] Click For Spoiler I think it was because of some weird time-travel rule. I think tamperers are 'out of any time sequence or loop,' if that makes any sense. So it is not like this happened, then this happened. Any interference takes place 'without an order.' So if you stop the faction that is making changes you eliminate all their changes, not just from the point in time where they seemed to be stopped and afterwards. It is not a chronological act. That's another aspect that makes time travel 'contrived,' in my opinion Click For Spoiler I rated it a 4. it was the first and last time i will watch that boring show! it takes the mick out of trek :angry: 311180[/snapback] That is unfortunate. You came in during the last five minutes of a very long play and decided you did not like the entire play because you did not like the last five minutes of it. You have no context within which to judge that piece you saw, except that standing alone, you did not get much out of it. Well, it is your choice. But I would recommend that you read some of the reviews of other episodes, and last season. Last season will give you a context for the first two shows of this season. Also there have been interesting programs this season not especially connected to last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) Click For Spoiler Greetings People. It's that time again. Yes it’s time for another super awesome in-depth Royal analysis of a final season episode of ENTERPRISE written by His Royal Highness The King. OK, let’s get on with it: Season Four: “Storm Front Part II” The “Hitler Visits America” reel was pretty good, it’s just a shame it was totally ruined by a laughable narration. It sounded like something you might hear on The Simpsons. Only when they do things like that, it’s actually intended to be funny. The NX-01 looks bizarre in this episode. It resembles a frying pan covered with moss. Most odd. I’m sure a better design for its hull damage could have been conceived. In the first quarter of the episode, the only regular character I have seen thus far is Archer. Since he’s generally considered to be the centre of this show, a tremendous actor of incredible charisma was needed. I’m afraid Scott Bakula was simply not that actor. It’s a real shame. Along with poor writing, poor casting and very weak characters put this show to the sword. The Suliban special effects are incredibly poor for a franchise which traditionally has been so innovative with special effects. Very poor CGI on the “ceiling walking effects”. Speaking of the Suliban, they have also been a poor addition to the franchise (thankfully they can be ignored). Two dimensional cardboard villains. The Cardassians were portrayed as a more interesting villain race after pretty much ONE episode of TNG. The make-up for the Suliban is also hilarious. They look like they are covered with oatmeal. Very silly IMO. Though I do like John Fleck though. Hmmmm, last time it was a very tight PINK catsuit, and now it’s ORANGE. That basically sums up the entire range for the T’Porn character. Changing the colour of her outfits. While Reed was explaining why the timeline has been corrupted she was basically standing on her mark with a gormless look on her face. You could practically see her mouthing Reed’s lines. Her idea of acting is to breathe deeply and give us all a good look at her heaving chest. Speaking of Reed, I’m even more convinced that Dominic Keating is some kind of British robot. Before this show ends, he HAS to say “Cheerio Old Chap” to someone. I’m sick and tired of seeing this stereotypical “Emotionally-Stunted-Stiff-Old-Brit” character archetype. I can’t stop laughing at these “Mafia” guys. Bloody hilarious. I’m waiting for one them to say “He’s gonna sleep with da fishes”. I’m also convinced that an overuse of time travel and temporal storylines have doomed this show. When used once in a while, they can be effective. But use them too often and they become tiresome. Scott Bakula came from one show about time and he practically “jumped” into another, and don’t get me started on Archer’s stupid hat. The modern weapons on the Nazi planes and their battle with the NX-01 over New York City was actually a pretty cool concept. It’s a pity it was let down by some poor CGI. What a shame (which is something I seem to be saying often about ENT). Apologies to John Billingsley. Far too talented as an actor to be wasted in a show this weak. Linda Park has done practically nothing in this episode, other than one line over the comlink. Anthony Montgomery is a waste of space (not that he occupies much). It is in my considered opinion that the characters on ENT are the weakest array ever seen in Star Trek, just below those on VOY. Curse you Brannon Braga and Rick Berman. I think in the final episode, the Blunder Twins should make a cameo appearance as two aliens, so they can be put to death by a CGI version of Gene Roddenberry with a phase pistol at point blank range. “Future Guy” can also be a CGI Gene Roddenberry. He explains that he’s been screwing with time trying to repair the damage the Blunder Twins have caused to his franchise. BTW- They really shouldn’t have replaced the end title theme heard in the first episode (the instrumental version of the original ENT theme) with that horrible “Archer’s Theme” with the crummy electric guitars. Thankfully and mercifully, this Temporal Cold War crap has been brought to an end. It’s sad that so much of this series was wasted on this nonsense. The last scene with Daniels may as well have had “RESET BUTTON” flashed up on screen, and the final scene with the NX-01 approaching Earth was pretty much a rip-off of the last scene of VOY. Thankyou Berman and Braga for reminding me of that other horrible Trek show. Thankyou very much. :angry: Sorry, ENT fans (I’m sure a few of you exist). But I’m afraid this episode gets a rating of 1. Edited March 19, 2005 by The King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrWho42 13 Posted March 19, 2005 Click For Spoiler But I’m afraid this episode gets a rating of 1. 311235[/snapback] You gave the episode a point higher than the review at Ex Astris Scientia. :angry: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted March 20, 2005 Click For Spoiler Greetings People. It's that time again. Yes it’s time for another super awesome in-depth Royal analysis of a final season episode of ENTERPRISE written by His Royal Highness The King. Have you have read any other comments on this episode made by other members of this site? I have to admit that I supsect you haven't. The “Hitler Visits America” reel was pretty good, it’s just a shame it was totally ruined by a laughable narration. It sounded like something you might hear on The Simpsons. Only when they do things like that, it’s actually intended to be funny. :angry: Have you ever seen the newsreels they used to make in the 1940's for the threater going public? They all had that exaggerated narration. The narration was realistic for the 1940's. I’m also convinced that an overuse of time travel and temporal storylines have doomed this show. When used once in a while, they can be effective. But use them too often and they become tiresome. Well, if you had read anyone else's comments you would see that you are repeating remarks made above. Thankfully and mercifully, this Temporal Cold War crap has been brought to an end. It’s sad that so much of this series was wasted on this nonsense. Others above also observed that this episode was supposed to bring the temporal cold war to an end, and lamented not knowing who ' Future Guy' was. I do not think Enterprise fans mind you rating an episode 1. I think they may be somewhat put off by the fact that you just launched into your usual nitpicking, without bothering to engage in the conversation already going on. Engaging in the conversation does not mean merely dissecting a post and refuting it line by line. It means taking the time to read, discern what you agree with, and acknowledge that as you write. And also note what you do not agree with, and indicate awareness of that. It makes it seem as if you are not just issuing some edict like some potentate from on high, the persona you assumed when you started this post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted March 20, 2005 Click For Spoiler Have you have read any other comments on this episode made by other members of this site? I have to admit that I supsect you haven't. No I have not. I like to form my own opinions. Have you ever seen the newsreels they used to make in the 1940's for the threater going public? They all had that exaggerated narration. The narration was realistic for the 1940's. Yeah, I've seen those old Pathe reels. Exaggerated narration is fine. The one heard on ENT was comical. Well, if you had read anyone else's comments you would see that you are repeating remarks made above. Maybe people believe the same things I do? It's entirely possible. Others above also observed that this episode was supposed to bring the temporal cold war to an end, and lamented not knowing who ' Future Guy' was. That's their decision. You continously mention that others have also reviewed this episode. So what? What does that have to do with me? I do not think Enterprise fans mind you rating an episode 1. I think they may be somewhat put off by the fact that you just launched into your usual nitpicking, without bothering to engage in the conversation already going on. Engaging in the conversation does not mean merely dissecting a post and refuting it line by line. It means taking the time to read, discern what you agree with, and acknowledge that as you write. And also note what you do not agree with, and indicate awareness of that. I can't engage in the conversation because I'm watching these episodes months after the initial reviews are made. The name of the forum is "Episode Rating Polls", not "Episode Rating Polls With Some Polite Conversation". I comment on the episode, give it my rating and say nothing more and wait for next weeks episode. It makes it seem as if you are not just issuing some edict like some potentate from on high, the persona you assumed when you started this post. All my episode reviews will be posted in the same style. I will criticise what I don't like. I will praise what I do like. The reviews and ratings of other members do not concern me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted March 23, 2005 Click For Spoiler All my episode reviews will be posted in the same style. I will criticise what I don't like. I will praise what I do like. The reviews and ratings of other members do not concern me. Exactly my point. An unfortunate attitude, and one that impedes real conversation. And fortuneately not shared by most people here. By the way, this is the section designated for discussion of the episode content and quality. It is not just a poll, or it would be set up as a poll only, as TS just did with a poll comparing Enterprise and the other series. It is also set up for discussion over a broad range of time, because 1) people on this site see epsidoes of Enterprise at widely varying times, and 2) the episode polls get bumped when there is a rerun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Click For Spoiler Exactly my point. An unfortunate attitude, and one that impedes real conversation. And fortuneately not shared by most people here. I haven't impeded any conversation. It wouldn't take much effort for a person to simply scroll down over my post and continue any conversation they were having. By the way, this is the section designated for discussion of the episode content and quality. It is not just a poll, or it would be set up as a poll only, as TS just did with a poll comparing Enterprise and the other series. Yes, I saw her poll and voted. I voted on this one. I also posted my comments on the episode too. That's all I was interested in doing. It may be designated for discussion, but I don't wish to discuss anything at this point. If in future I feel the need to do so, I will. It is also set up for discussion over a broad range of time, because1) people on this site see epsidoes of Enterprise at widely varying times, and 2) the episode polls get bumped when there is a rerun. But I'm not compelled to converse about the episode right? I can post comments, offer my own personal rating for the episode and vote in the poll and do nothing more right? Are you telling me that I MUST enter conversations based on each episode? :P Edited March 23, 2005 by The King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mj 7 Posted March 25, 2005 Click For Spoiler But I'm not compelled to converse about the episode right? I can post comments, offer my own personal rating for the episode and vote in the poll and do nothing more right? Are you telling me that I MUST enter conversations based on each episode? :P Nope, I am not telling you that you must enter into a conversation. I was making a suggestion that would actually allow conversation with someone with a dissenting opinion. From your remarks about 'not being able to have a conversation months after the episode had aired,' to this last remark you just made, I can see that you are not interested in what I am actually trying to say to you. Too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HRH The KING 0 Posted March 25, 2005 (edited) Click For Spoiler Nope, I am not telling you that you must enter into a conversation. Alright then. :lol: I was making a suggestion that would actually allow conversation with someone with a dissenting opinion. Hey, if anyone wanted to offer a dissenting opinion over something I post, they are of course free to do so. I welcome that, and obviously everyone on this site should know by now that I never hold back if I feel the need to say something. I'll converse with anyone, assuming the subject interests me. From your remarks about 'not being able to have a conversation months after the episode had aired,' to this last remark you just made, I can see that you are not interested in what I am actually trying to say to you. Too bad. Nah, nothing is too bad. To be honest I'm not entirely certain of what you have been trying to say. :P Edited March 25, 2005 by The King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIMIMELA 1 Posted March 25, 2005 I realized that I never rated it before. I give it an 8.0, based on the criticisms I cited in my first post. Click For Spoiler #2: Didn't Malcomb say that Lenin had been assinated in 1917? so how did Archer Killing the bad guy in 1944 fix the time line back in 1917? and if Daniels is alive and well now , wouldn't the Suliban be alive as well? 273488[/snapback] Click For Spoiler I think it was because of some weird time-travel rule. I think tamperers are 'out of any time sequence or loop,' if that makes any sense. So it is not like this happened, then this happened. Any interference takes place 'without an order.' So if you stop the faction that is making changes you eliminate all their changes, not just from the point in time where they seemed to be stopped and afterwards. It is not a chronological act. That's another aspect that makes time travel 'contrived,' in my opinion Click For Spoiler I rated it a 4. it was the first and last time i will watch that boring show! it takes the mick out of trek 311180[/snapback] That is unfortunate. You came in during the last five minutes of a very long play and decided you did not like the entire play because you did not like the last five minutes of it. You have no context within which to judge that piece you saw, except that standing alone, you did not get much out of it. Well, it is your choice. But I would recommend that you read some of the reviews of other episodes, and last season. Last season will give you a context for the first two shows of this season. Also there have been interesting programs this season not especially connected to last season. 311194[/snapback] :P I judge things by watching/doing things twice. 2nd time not my type of program. I am sorry, I wish I could like it but it just doesn't seem to interest me as much. :lol: I wish it did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trek_dude 0 Posted April 21, 2005 (edited) 10 - Excellent, better than part 1. I thought it was good idea to wrap up the Temporal Cold War (don’t get me wrong i didn't mind the story's) and I was happy to see Enterprise get home. The final scene with the ships escorting the NX-01 back to earth reminded me of the end of voyager's series finale (Endgame). Edited April 21, 2005 by trek_dude Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
